Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Aug 2006 09:54 UTC, submitted by mikemuch
Windows "Whether you ever plan on upgrading to Windows Vista or not, one thing is clear: Its impact on the world of PC hardware will be huge. We've written about how to build a Windows Vista system. This time we're not talking about building a Vista system today, but rather, about what new types of hardware Windows Vista will spawn. We'll also consider how this new generation of hardware will affect your future buying decisions."
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"only" 8GB
by RandomGuy on Thu 10th Aug 2006 10:51 UTC
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2006-07-30

"The real issue isn't processor support or operating system support. The problem is motherboard support for high memory capacities—or rather, the lack of support. Today, most desktop motherboards support a maximum of 8GB of RAM"

Sounds like it will need LOTS of memory.
I can't help the feeling that the whole pc industry is running against some fundamental limits.
If we watch the reactions to various problems:

clock rate can hardly be increased any further
=> MORE CPUs

software size and complexity grow
=> more RAM

games need to be faster
=> bigger feature set in Direct X10

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RE: "only" 8GB
by el3ktro on Thu 10th Aug 2006 11:36 UTC in reply to ""only" 8GB"
el3ktro Member since:
2006-01-10

Thats true, in the past they often didn't really think about the future and they set some limits too low. But they're learning, e.g. when IPv6 does not have 32bit addresses, but 128bit address. This lifts the limit of maximum IP adresses so much that we should really not have a problem with this in the next 100 years or so.

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RE: "only" 8GB
by eddwo on Thu 10th Aug 2006 11:41 UTC
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2006-05-15

Arn't there enought IPs in IPV6 for every individual grain of sand on earth to have its own routeable address or something?

Its going to last a lot more than 100 years

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RE[2]: "only" 8GB
by thecwin on Thu 10th Aug 2006 23:14 UTC in reply to "RE: "only" 8GB"
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2006-01-04

Unless we want to start expanding to other planets ;)

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Hmmm, bloat, bloat, bloat...
by Arawn on Thu 10th Aug 2006 12:26 UTC
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2005-07-13

I would think the priority would be fixing the bugs in the OS itself, not adding features... I don't find amusing adding/buying new hardware just for looks and some new features in an OS's GUI... I was happy with Win2k GUI, the XP one was overkill for me, and only slowed me down in usability. Fortunately, I could disable most of the new "features", if not all.

But that's marketing for you... most people like "the new thing", and in a OS, the more obvious "new thing" is the GUI looks.

I think some features can be really usefull, but I think it's a very small minority of the features.

P.S.: I really like XFCE. ;)

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Affecting my future buying decisions?
by Rei_Urusei on Thu 10th Aug 2006 12:47 UTC
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2006-02-08

"We'll also consider how this new generation of hardware will affect your future buying decisions."

I'll tell you one thing about how Vista will be affecting my buying decisions: a brand new Mac(Book), that'll keep me going for the next few years troublefree.

Too bad Joe Public'll get caught in all the marketing frenzy (MS and partners). I mean look at those insane hardware specs, just for some added eyecandy and overhyped features nobody cares about. Even corporate users have absolutely no need for all that. It does offer one thing though: seamless integration of bloatware on overhyped technology ;)

Incidentally, my current notebook will always be adorned with a nice little Linux distro, same goes for my next Mac ;)

Edited 2006-08-10 12:52

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suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

Nah there are many people who are foaming at the mouth to get to play wiht Vista and some of them are .NET developers who like to play with the newest stuff. And other people who are raring to go are the gamer community as well who want to play the latest and greatest games and push their systems to the limits. Thats all Vista has going for it though.

On the other points with you I do agree. My next machine is going to be the Woodcrest based quad workstation. Too bad they dont have raid support however which is a major turnoff for me.

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Do anybody know...
by theuserbl on Thu 10th Aug 2006 13:02 UTC
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2006-01-10

Do anybody know, if Windows Vista supports the already existing Windows XP driver?

If yes, then its ok and ReactOS could be useful.
But if no, it also shows, that ReactOS makes no sence.

Greatings
theuserbl

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RE: Do anybody know...
by elektrik on Thu 10th Aug 2006 18:57 UTC in reply to "Do anybody know..."
elektrik Member since:
2006-04-18

now you're just being silly.

Even if XP drivers won't work with Vista, it does not mean for a moment that ReactOS would no longer be useful.

Besides the fact that ReactOS' aim is a clone of XP, I'd imagine that they could probably tweak ReactOS to be 64-bit as well...

If you're referring to where the article made some goofy point of saying that 32-bit processing will die.....Right, and the thousands and THOUSANDS of programs build for XP/9x will no longer immediatly be used (or immediately after releasing Vista) then I think there's still some swamp land in Florida available....interested?

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"Managed Content"
by smitty_one_each on Thu 10th Aug 2006 14:18 UTC
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2005-07-07

Is this the newest resurrection of DRM?
And how is Vista 'spawning' all of this 64bit-ness? The Linux kernel has been paving the 64bit way for longer than Vista has been delayed, no?

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This might actually be good for Linux
by twenex on Thu 10th Aug 2006 16:54 UTC
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2006-04-21

If ATI^H^H^HAMD et al. are forced not to compete on features, this should lesson the pressure on them not to release open-source drivers which (they allege) give away the secrets on how they implement their hardware. So they should be more open (no pun intended) to opensourcing their drivers or specs.

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by suryad on Thu 10th Aug 2006 21:03 UTC
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2005-07-09

The whole Vista situation has many facets one can look at it from...on one end, it could signal a new era of insanely powerful machines because manufacturers of both computers and hardware are quite closely tied in with Microsoft. So that is obviously resulting in DX 10 based mammothly powerful graphics cards coming out from both ATI and Nvidia with the only difference bein the way they implement shaders...unified vs non-unified. Also there is upgraded minimum requirement for the OS and the recommended requirements for the OS. It is a bit higher than I would like for example...but that could be signalling an OS that could better handle quad cpu setups and so on. I guess there is a good side and bad side to this whole Vista thing.

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