Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 17th Aug 2006 15:45 UTC, submitted by rm6990
Mac OS X Apple released version 1.1 beta of its Boot Camp software that allows Apple users to run MacOS X side by side with Windows XP on an Intel-based Mac. The 202 MB download adds support for newly released Intel-Macs, simplified partitioning, the ability to install Windows XP on any internal disk, support for the Isight camera and built-in microphones, as well as improved Apple keyboard support. Apple says that users should create a new Macintosh Drivers for Windows CD and install the updated software it contains on Windows XP. According to Apple, this will not require the user having to reinstall Windows XP or Mac OS X. Elsewhere, Apple is preparing for the new Xserver cluster node.
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Crikey
by PJBonoVox on Thu 17th Aug 2006 16:03 UTC
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2006-08-14

Great stuff for Mac users (and Windows XP to some extent) but I have to ask... 202MB!?!?

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RE: Crikey
by Devilotx on Thu 17th Aug 2006 16:18 UTC in reply to "Crikey"
Devilotx Member since:
2005-07-06

it holds all the Drivers for windows on Mac, think about all the drivers, Video, chipset, network... plus the actual boot camp software itself, of course it's big.

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RE[2]: Crikey
by Kroc on Thu 17th Aug 2006 17:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Crikey"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

It went from 86MB to 202MB, which is a large leap. But I attribute that to from the 1.0's support of only iMac/Macbook Pro, to now supporting iMac, Macbook Pro 15/17, eiMac, Macbook & Mac Pro (which can have two different kinds of nvidia cards and 1 ATI type), now add the new camera drivers for all, and I think it adds up.

Both ATI & Nvidia have really been bloating their drivers as of late.

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RE[3]: Crikey
by rm6990 on Thu 17th Aug 2006 22:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Crikey"
rm6990 Member since:
2005-07-04

You're forgetting the Mac Mini. It has been supported the entire time Apple has had Boot Camp for public download. So you can add Intel's video drivers into that mix as well as ATI's and Nvidia's.

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much energy
by gelosilente on Thu 17th Aug 2006 16:54 UTC
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2006-08-13

apple is putting much energy in bootcamp, i think that soon will be per loaded and apple will offer windows as bto

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RE: much energy
by patrix on Thu 17th Aug 2006 17:38 UTC in reply to "much energy"
patrix Member since:
2006-05-21

"apple is putting much energy in bootcamp, i think that soon will be per loaded and apple will offer windows as bto"

Bootcamp will come with OS X 10.5.

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RE[2]: much energy
by D3M0N on Thu 17th Aug 2006 17:54 UTC in reply to "RE: much energy"
D3M0N Member since:
2005-07-09

But will they add Windows as a BTO option? I doubt it. It would jeopardize OS X IMO.

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RE[3]: much energy
by Mellin on Thu 17th Aug 2006 19:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: much energy"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

and i think microsoft would demand that windows has to be the default os

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RE[4]: much energy
by gdanko on Thu 17th Aug 2006 20:06 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: much energy"
gdanko Member since:
2005-07-15

and i think microsoft would demand that windows has to be the default os

And there would be wizards all over the land.

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RE[4]: much energy
by rm6990 on Thu 17th Aug 2006 22:15 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: much energy"
rm6990 Member since:
2005-07-04

AFAIK, Microsoft's license doesn't forbid customers from installing more than one OS and modifying the MBR to accomodate this, however, hardware manufacturers are forbidden from doing this. In-fact, a manufacturer can't even install a boot loader that has Windows as the default and Linux/BSD/whatever as the secondary option. The boot loader has to be the default Windows one, which can only boot Windows. This is why manufacturers had to ship a floppy disk so that both BeOS and Windows could boot on the same computer.

I somehow don't see Apple shipping Windows as an option on their computer if Microsoft enforced this licensing clause against Apple.

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Side by Side?
by NotParker on Thu 17th Aug 2006 17:28 UTC
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2006-06-01

"software that allows Apple users to run MacOS X side by side with Windows XP on an Intel-based Mac"

How about:

"software that allows Apple users to run MacOS X or Windows XP on an Intel-based Mac"

Parallels allows them to run "side by side". As does VMware.

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RE: Side by Side?
by jtfolden on Thu 17th Aug 2006 17:57 UTC in reply to "Side by Side?"
jtfolden Member since:
2005-08-12

Technically, if you want to argue details like that, it's BootCamp that allows you to run them "side by side" - on the same hard drive, same computer. No one said anything about "at the same time".

Parallel/VMWare actually runs one inside/underneath the other. They are not running side by side in this instance as one OS has primary footing and complete control.

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Grainy video
by Tom K on Thu 17th Aug 2006 17:55 UTC
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2005-07-06

Too bad they haven't fixed the grainy video issue in XP. It makes games and videos look like complete and utter sh*t while in XP on my MBP.

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RE: Grainy video
by butters on Fri 18th Aug 2006 00:01 UTC in reply to "Grainy video"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

CPU virtualization is challenging, but it's nothing new. GPU virtualization is pretty much uncharted territory. Given the fact that CPU architectures are very well documented and understood, while GPU architectures are proprietary moving targets, I wouldn't expect near-native virtualized graphics performance for several years.

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RE[2]: Grainy video
by PowerMacX on Fri 18th Aug 2006 16:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Grainy video"
PowerMacX Member since:
2005-11-06

There is no virtualization involved, Boot Camp just allows installing & booting into XP natively.

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Just a query
by vikramsharma on Thu 17th Aug 2006 18:59 UTC
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2005-07-06

I have iSight web camera and want to use it on my office pc, now would I be able to install the bootcamp drivers on a normal pc so that windows recognizes my iSight web camera

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RE: Just a query
by akula on Thu 17th Aug 2006 20:11 UTC in reply to "Just a query"
akula Member since:
2006-04-05

I am fairly sure that you have never needed to. I was lead to believe that the stand alone iSight was just a standard firewire camera, and thus would "just work" on pretty much any recent OS that supported firewire cameras.

Now from what I understand that firewire cameras appear differently in the windows subsystem so I don't know if Instant Messanger programs are coded to use it, however any video editing software should be able to pick it up.

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RE: Just a query
by Governa on Thu 17th Aug 2006 20:35 UTC in reply to "Just a query"
Governa Member since:
2006-04-09

I believe the iSight drivers are from the built in camera in MacBook and MacBook Pro, not the standalone iSight.

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apple is starting to slack off
by djames on Thu 17th Aug 2006 20:18 UTC
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2006-04-18

it would be nice if they fixed the screensaver...in MBP...the screensaver doesn't kick on...you have to launch it manually with 'preview'. I'm obviously talking about XP on bootcamp.

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Bluetooth
by damieng on Thu 17th Aug 2006 20:25 UTC
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2006-08-17

Please note that this update seems to disable Bluetooth.

To get it working again in Windows requires a bit of fiddling - details on my blog at http://www.damieng.com/blog/archive/2006/08/16/Apple_releases_BootC...

[)amien

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