Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 18th Aug 2006 15:44 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Fedora Core Slashdot published an interview with Fedora Project leader Max Spevack where he answers questions on everything from what has changed since the birth of Fedora Project and its goals, driver support in Linux up to what he considers the worst aspect of the Fedora.
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Fedora Universe
by netpython on Fri 18th Aug 2006 16:07 UTC
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2005-07-06

Fedora Universe

Cool,i hope just as ubuntu universe.(repositories)

Edited 2006-08-18 16:07

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RE: Fedora Universe
by Rahul on Fri 18th Aug 2006 16:21 UTC in reply to "Fedora Universe"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Not really and in fact quite the opposite. Ubuntu universe is a different repository similar to Fedora Extras. Ubuntu main is similar to Fedora Core and Fedora doesnt have a restricted repository since Fedora is 100% Free and open source software.

What Max Spevack is talking about is unifying the Fedora the two different formal repositories - Fedora Core and Fedora Extras into a single unified one. "Universe" is just a analogy.

Edited 2006-08-18 16:21

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v Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by pierino on Fri 18th Aug 2006 16:23 UTC
RE: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by orestes on Fri 18th Aug 2006 16:35 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu has surpassed fedora"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

I wouldn't know about issues trying to upgrade between versions, but I do know that I'd take a clean Fedora install over Ubuntu any day of the year.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by twenex on Fri 18th Aug 2006 18:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Why's that?

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orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

Familiarity mostly.
I can get a Fedora system dialed in precisely the way I want it in a fraction of the time it would take on Ubuntu. Everything is where I expect it to be and mostly everything works like I expect it to.

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RE[4]: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by muep on Fri 18th Aug 2006 19:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora"
muep Member since:
2006-03-19

Well, I would similarly take Ubuntu over Fedora, any day. I know my way around the Ubuntu system and I can easily shape it the way I want it. I also like Ubuntu's package management better, but mostly it is because I just like Ubuntu.

I think I will try Fedora out again soon, maybe when I get a new computer or something... I have already installed FC5 twice on an older PII box, on which it really didn't get to show much of the better sides. I liked it anyway, I just like Ubuntu better.

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RE: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by kernelpanicked on Fri 18th Aug 2006 20:51 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu has surpassed fedora"
kernelpanicked Member since:
2006-02-01

* Avahi, HAL, dbus, etc. active: I wish someone would clarify whether these are required for general system operation or only to pander to the needs of overblown desktop environments like GNOME and KDE.


http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-services-fc5.html

I know, damned difficult information to come by. I mean it requires a google search for "fedora 5 services" and clicking the second link.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by Rahul on Fri 18th Aug 2006 21:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

DBus is used by even by non-desktop software like BIND in Fedora and HAL is a general hardware abstraction library and Avahi and for auto configuration of networks and increasingly used by software outside of GNOME and KDE

Dbus and HAL is written and maintained by Red Hat and all the above three software is freedesktop.org efforts.

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RE: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by gilboa on Fri 18th Aug 2006 21:13 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu has surpassed fedora"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

"<Insert standard rant about quality of Fedora releases and inevitable bugs and issues with every upgrade>"

My x86_64 machine began as a normal Athlon64 machine running FC3/x86_64; I then replaced the board with a Tyan Thunder K8WE with two Opteron 248 CPUs (SMP kernel, different network, graphics and IDE chipset) things worked out of the box. (I did to manually run "yum install kernel-smp kernel-smp-devel" and move the OS partition from a single IDE drive to an LVM over SCSI Software RAID)
A couple of months later I upgraded the machine to FC4 x86_64. No problems what-so-ever.
Two week after the FC5 release, I upgraded the OS to FC5, again, no problems what-so-ever.
A couple of months ago I replaced the 2 x 248 CPUs with two 2 x 270 dual core Opterons the machine, again no problems-what-so-ever.

Does it mean that Fedora doesn't have bugs? Nope. Does it invalidates your own experience? Nope.
It -does- mean that YMMV. -Don't- assume that just because your FC3 to FC5 upgrade failed, all of us had the same experience.

BTW, beside ranting, did you bother to open Fedora bugzilla tickers about your problems?

Edited 2006-08-18 21:15

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I just love Fedora's philosophy
by leon on Fri 18th Aug 2006 17:05 UTC
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2006-06-24

Quote:

"This goes back to what I wrote near the beginning about the importance of upstream. If everyone is pushing their latest work back upstream, and the maintainers at the top level have the time and resources that they need to keep everything in order, then most GNU/Linux distros are going to feel pretty similar once they are installed. Which is why I think a lot of the OSS "religious wars" don't make a lot of sense."

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RE: I just love Fedora's philosophy
by flane on Fri 18th Aug 2006 19:54 UTC in reply to "I just love Fedora's philosophy"
flane Member since:
2006-08-17

I do too. However, if you talk to any of the developers of any other distribution, I think that this Philosophy is pretty common amongst the people that do the work. It seems to be primarily the end users of distributions that want to fight about what distribution is the best. I think that this is because a lot of end users see thriving communities like Ubuntu, Gentoo, and Debian and they want to become involved. Some of the ones that do not have the skills required to contribute code seem to thing that they can help by telling the rest of the world how wonderful distribution is and why all of the other distros suck. It is sad really, because all it does is distract from the achievements of the developers, testers, and documentation writers that do the real work. It would be nice, from a Linux standpoint, if all of these people stopped evangelizing for their distro and started evangelizing for Linux and open source in general.

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leon Member since:
2006-06-24

Few distribution concentrate this much on getting their patch upstream as Redhat/Fedora did for example Aiglx to Xorg. However those distros you mentioned not always working this way. They maintained their own patches although partially because they can't get a patch to upstream quality. This is not about evangelizing distro.

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RE[2]: Ubuntu has surpassed fedora
by acobar on Fri 18th Aug 2006 22:57 UTC
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2005-11-15

And for sure they should thought out it better before they rushed their stuff on the wild. And you don't have to believe on me, just google for troubles they gave to a lot of people. You can partially blame cheap components and lack of hardware specs, but they have their part too. The idea was good but the rush was very bad.

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Consolidation
by Elektro on Sat 19th Aug 2006 12:40 UTC
Elektro
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2006-08-19

I would like to know what the next steps will be to bring Fedora more in line with other distributions. It is a real mess that so many unnecessary backend differences exist.

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