Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Aug 2006 17:30 UTC
Apple Gizmodo reports that a battery recall program for Apple PowerBooks and iBooks has started. "The US Consumer Product Safety Commission just made the Apple battery recall official. It'll affect 1.1 million Sony-made batteries in the US alone. Between all the PS3's bad press and these battery recalls, it's not going to be an easy year for Sony, is it?
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2nd one
by D3M0N on Thu 24th Aug 2006 17:40 UTC
D3M0N
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2005-07-09

This is the second battery recall for my Powerbook G4. The first one was a recall on batteries made by LG Chem. Now, its the replacements for those recalled ones made by Sony. Oh well, its just a minor inconvenience for me. At least Apple is fast getting the new batteries to you.

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RE: 2nd one
by atomicplayboy on Thu 24th Aug 2006 22:12 UTC in reply to "2nd one"
atomicplayboy Member since:
2006-04-28

And fortunatly, they were so well prepared for their announcement. First their support web site was having difficulties (still is quite slow), then their phone system has technical difficulties. Well, now that their website is up, it's telling me my serial number is invalid or does not qualify, even though it is within the range of the recalled batteries. It's a good thing their phone system is working again, though, because now I get to spend the rest of the day on hold! I know it's a lot of batteries to recall, but they had to have predicted the increase in network trafic...

Update - I got through! apparently there are still problems. If anyone is trying to use the website and recieves the same message I did (not valid serial or does not qualify), this is apparently a common problem right now. I was told that they're hoping to have the site fully functional by tonight or tommorow, and that it's an internal problem as well, and that they can't currently process your recall over the phone either.

Edited 2006-08-24 22:17

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RE[2]: 2nd one
by eggs on Thu 24th Aug 2006 22:17 UTC in reply to "RE: 2nd one"
eggs Member since:
2006-01-23

Replacing the battery on my Dell was suprisingly painless. I used the website they had up which ran fine, obviously if I had called my experience would have been different.

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RE[2]: 2nd one
by D3M0N on Thu 24th Aug 2006 22:40 UTC in reply to "RE: 2nd one"
D3M0N Member since:
2005-07-09

I called in because I wasn't able to access the website. The representative was able to access it, but it said that the serial number wasn't valid, which it was. He was able to over ride it and order me the replacement battery without going through the web site apparently. I even received a confirmation email.

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Hmm
by twenex on Thu 24th Aug 2006 17:44 UTC
twenex
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2006-04-21

I was going to by a PS3 despite the DRM debacle, but I don't have 400 quid to burn (literally).

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Who else makes these type of batteries?
by MollyC on Thu 24th Aug 2006 17:52 UTC
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2006-07-04

Wow!
Does anybody besides Sony make these batteries in sufficient quantity? Sony obviously has problems making a safe battery, but who else is there to make them?

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Sony no more
by GCrain on Thu 24th Aug 2006 17:54 UTC
GCrain
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2005-07-11

Years ago, Sony made the best products ( except esoteric kinda stuff). Lately, everything I have Sony is breaking. Bought a very expensive Sony XBR TV... thing is breaking after 3 years. I have been looking on the internet and finding that Sony is pretty crappy stuff lately. Add to this the fact the Sony rootkit debacle. Their electronics are only slightly better than the Korean made junk.

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v RE: Sony no more
by twenex on Thu 24th Aug 2006 18:17 UTC in reply to "Sony no more"
RE: Sony no more
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 24th Aug 2006 19:08 UTC in reply to "Sony no more"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Sony audio equipment usually is really good quality for the money you pay. And, of course, its minidisc products (I'm a heavy MiniDisc user) are unbeatable by anything in terms of quality; both in structure as well as in sound (iPods and other .mp3 players don't hold a candle to Sony's portable MD line quality and feature-wise).

I don't know for its Vaio line, but I do like the design of many Vaios.

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RE[2]: Sony no more
by XcottCraver on Thu 24th Aug 2006 20:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Sony no more"
XcottCraver Member since:
2006-03-23

I also have a MiniDisc recorder, and it is a really great device: sturdy, easy to use, with great audio quality. I also use the Sony plug-in power stereo mike, which gave me some amazing recordings.

I also had a VAIO, which turned to crap very quickly. Everything went almost simultaneously: the screen, the battery, the keyboard.

For audio recording, tho, I plan to get something other than a MD next time. Physical media is too cumbersome and noisy, and Sony's is worse because of paranoia about illegal copies. The only reason it isn't being beaten in the marketplace is (a) most MP3 recorders have baffingly bad user interfaces and nothing even close to the "instant on" of a tape recorder; and (b) most audio recorders have quality geared towards voice recording.

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RE: Sony no more
by Soulbender on Fri 25th Aug 2006 03:16 UTC in reply to "Sony no more"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Sony always had the worst floppy disks.

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RE: Sony no more
by kaiwai on Fri 25th Aug 2006 05:04 UTC in reply to "Sony no more"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Years ago, Sony made the best products ( except esoteric kinda stuff). Lately, everything I have Sony is breaking. Bought a very expensive Sony XBR TV... thing is breaking after 3 years. I have been looking on the internet and finding that Sony is pretty crappy stuff lately. Add to this the fact the Sony rootkit debacle. Their electronics are only slightly better than the Korean made junk.

Oh pulease, and you're the same group who runs around assuming that all Sony stuff is made in Japan? sorry, to quote Armageddon: "American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!"

Same situation here; sorry, I've yet to find a *SINGLE* Sony product thats actually worth the premium that they demand, their stuff has always been crap, expensive and excessively proprietary - the mini-disc and UMD being el-supremo examples of this stupidity.

Its nothing new, Toshiba's quality has slipped - it used to be the gold standard for laptops, to which all others benchmarked themselves to; same goes for Fujitsu and Mitsumi.

Edited 2006-08-25 05:06

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Actually 1.8
by pilotgi on Thu 24th Aug 2006 18:12 UTC
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2005-07-06

There has been a correction to this recall. The number of batteries is 1.8 million.

http://www.macrumors.com/

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RE: Actually 1.8
by D3M0N on Thu 24th Aug 2006 18:17 UTC in reply to "Actually 1.8"
D3M0N Member since:
2005-07-09

It's 1.1 million batteries from iBooks and Powerbooks sold in the US and an additional 700,000 sold in other countries. So... 1.8 million all together.

Edited 2006-08-24 18:18

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Wow...
by gobbler on Thu 24th Aug 2006 19:56 UTC
gobbler
Member since:
2006-01-10

Im really amazed Apple still can't manage to avoid shipping faulty hardware. Their quality assurance team must be smoking some serious drugs...

I remember my first Apple purchase experience; a Powerbook G4 'containing' a defect CDROM and having half of the screen filled with pretty red pixels. Wow, that was worth the 2500$...

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RE: Wow...
by aaronb on Thu 24th Aug 2006 20:18 UTC in reply to "Wow..."
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

lithium is quite reative. A small fault could possibly create alot of heat.

Sony's QA team is smoking the burning lithium not apple (in this case)

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Free New Battery
by Cass on Thu 24th Aug 2006 20:55 UTC
Cass
Member since:
2006-03-17

Not bad that after 3 good years using an iBook battery without issues you'll be sent a new one, cant be bad ;-)

Just glad i dont have this prob yet with the Macbook... was dreading that one ... though mabey it wint be so bad if they send the battery first !!!

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Nicholas Blachford
Member since:
2005-07-06

9 cases of problems of overheating and 2 cases of burning thigh, is not justificable to recall 1.8M batteries.

The zero cases - the mere possibility of something happening - can initiate a recall, consumer laws are tough, there's also the small matter of the US legal system.

Can you imagine the amount Apple would have to pay out if someone's house was burned down and someone was killed?

Not to mention if something was to happened on a plane!

If anything this is actually good PR for Apple.

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WZot Member since:
2005-07-06

Can you imagine the amount Apple would have to pay out if someone's house was burned down and someone was killed?
Actually that would probably be less than the cost they'll now have with recalling 1.8 million batteries... But on the other hand...if something like that happened it would be terrible PR of course.:)

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ra1n Member since:
2006-02-11

Exactly, the recall it's a great, but expensive :-), PR move, also it's a great blow to the battery manufacturer, that incidentally it's a competitor to apple in the music market ;-)

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Funny
by collywolly on Fri 25th Aug 2006 12:31 UTC
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2006-06-19

What I find particularly amusing about this story is that when the stories were circulating a little while ago about Apple laptops, sorry "notebooks" getting excessively hot there were loads of smug Apple fans proclaiming,

"At least it doesn't catch fire like a Dell".

Quote from the article:

"Hazard: These lithium-ion batteries can overheat, posing a fire hazard to consumers."
:)

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what about
by csynt on Fri 25th Aug 2006 15:52 UTC
csynt
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2006-03-19

What about SONY batteries that are located into MP3's (network walkmans) digital cameras (made by sony), mobile phones and/or PDAs (even my old Palm 515 has a SONY made battery) not to mention my Axim PDA..

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Sony unmentioned in mass-media coverage
by Bobthearch on Fri 25th Aug 2006 19:19 UTC
Bobthearch
Member since:
2006-01-27

It's a shame that most of the television coverage (limited to small blurbs) of the laptop battery recalls only name Apple and Dell - most stories never mention that Sony actually manufactures the batteries.

-Bob

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