Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 31st Aug 2006 01:45 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless once again kindly stepped up and sent us in the next-generation Motorola Linux-based ROKR-E2 feature phone. In the tradition of the ROKR devices, the E2 is also built around the idea of music on the go, while it's the first Linux phone to have an initial retail cost smaller than $256. Read inside for our detailed review, video and pictures.
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love the article listed on page two !
by anyweb on Thu 31st Aug 2006 07:51 UTC
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not the first time i've seen linux-noob on a phone but it's definetly the first time i've seen it on a linux based phone (scroll down to the photo) via a review


cool i'm impressed ! thanks Eugenia ;)


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Actually that same picture was linked 2 days ago from the front page of osnews (at the motorola's guy interview), and last week from my blog. ;-)

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Impressions after a month
by dcbw on Thu 31st Aug 2006 11:58 UTC
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I was able to get a China Mobile branded version about a month ago; the black version with 850/1800/1900 bands. Firmware R564_G_12.01.27P. One thing I don't like is the interface lag... There's a split second between a button press and the action, especially in the music player. That seemed to get better once I used a faster SD card though.

I've found battery life to be quite good when the phone is used just as an MP3/AAC player and FM radio. Usually don't have to recharge more than once every 2 or 3 days. The music player has some odd behaviors though; it doesn't recognize iTunes-ripped AAC/M4A file tags, leaving the songs unorganized. It also doesn't have any ability to order songs by track number, meaning you have to prefix the filename with the track number to get album ordering. Skipping tracks takes a split second. For the radio, it would be better if a quick press of the joystick skipped between presets rather then just incrementing the frequency, though that's debatable.

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NO OGG VORBIS!? Wow? Can you really call it a geek phone without the only good free-from-patents-et-al codec for music? Well, I wouldn't.

My whole ripped CD-collection (2000 songs and growing) is in Ogg Vorbis. How one could make a Linux-based phone and not put Ogg Vorbis in it is beyond my understadning.

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richip Member since:

I'd have to agree, though I'm not interested in it because it's a geek phone. The phone really looks like a neat music feature phone. Unfortunately, all of my CDs are also encoded in Ogg Vorbis.

Perhaps in the next Motorola rep interview, Eugenia could ask what the issues are with including a Vorbis decoder. Was it technical? Legal? An oversight?

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by Eugenia on Thu 31st Aug 2006 17:36 UTC
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>There's a split second between
>a button press and the action

not in my firmware version. i have a newer version...

> because it's a geek phone

it is not a geek phone

>Was it technical? Legal? An oversight?

just thar Real Player didn't support it back when the oruginal paid port was done.

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OGG Vorbis on wearable devices
by fejack on Thu 31st Aug 2006 22:39 UTC
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OGG Vorbis is possibly one of the best audio formats. I have experienced it first hand last summer when I tried to compress a 10 minute speech. The lowest quality in OGG still sounded fine whereas a similar MP3 had become unbearable.

Yet the main thing about OGG is that it is slightly more demanding on the processor compared to other formats. On a powerful personal computer, that goes unnotices, but on a wearable device with a modest processor, one can expect the battery to run dry a little bit faster with OGG. This is probably why Motorola (and many wearable juke-box makers) rule it out.

My song collection is getting close to 1750 titles, but just like you, I have it all in OGG and I would rather be able to copy them on a portable player without any change.

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user interface niggles
by pdundas on Sun 3rd Sep 2006 12:24 UTC
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The awkward user interface problems mentioned (too many key presses to do things, etc) are not just a problem with this linux phone. They are a problem with every motorola phone ever made (or at least every one I know of). They just appear not to care about their users, since they have been doing it for years.

I have an old moto for work, and a newer (borrowed) one for real life, and both are incredibly awkward. Friends with motos say the same.

Much as I'd like to like this phone (for geek value, even if it's not a geek phone as such) the infamous crap moto user interface puts me off.

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