Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st Aug 2006 23:07 UTC
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Improvements: "New 3D desktop support (both with AIGLX and Xgl) and a new tool to configure it (drak3d); new 'One' CD with 3D desktop support (AIGLX and Xgl, both on KDE and GNOME, autodetection of the best 3D solution); new rpmdrake; more applications migrated to XDG menus; GNOME 2.16 RC1; kernel 2.6.17 (based on 2.6.17.8 with ALSA 1.0.12 rc2); KDE 3.5.4; new 'Ia Ora' Mandriva theme (still only included in GNOME); new VPN configuration tool (drakvpn); new firewall." Get it from the mirrors.
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hezekiah
Member since:
2006-01-05

Unfortunately, the Compiz setup seems to have the same issue all others I've tried have - it doesn't work across my entire widescreen (1280x800) setup. Rather strange.

I hope this works out to be a good, polished release for Mandriva though. I used to be a really big fan of their work.

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darkmind Member since:
2006-02-13

I see the same bug, see : http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24650

What's your hardware ? I saw this with Intel chipset ( 8M of RAM )


IMHO I will need to do an upstream bug report ...

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Ia Ora
by AdamW on Fri 1st Sep 2006 01:08 UTC
AdamW
Member since:
2005-07-06

Thom, it's Ia Ora (upper-case I, not lower-case l). This is what's on our site now, I don't know if it was wrong when you copy / pasted it or if it somehow got changed in transition, but can you correct it please? Thanks ;)

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eduardp
Member since:
2006-09-01

Hi,

I've been testing this version and it is great. Very easy to make it 3D and continues to be a nice version to have.

Now with Mandriva One it is really easy to check how it works.

There are two anoying problems anyway:

a) Konqueror's location bar don't work as spected. In the past anything that couldn't be resolved was reconverted into a google query. That is very very useful. Now it tryes to resolve and if it cannot it simply sends an error message. That's very anoying because it makes you decide if you are doing a search or directly typing a lossely typed url. It was totally unnecessary before.

b) Compiz: Compiz is great in the very difficult things but its a poor kwin replacement in the easy things. Here you have some examples of what Compiz cannot do that you NEED if you used them with kwin.

- Move windows to the top and to the bottom.
- Remove windows borders.
- Move a window to another desktop from its window bar.
- Attach a window to all Desktops.

If you got used to those possibilities you surely found quite impossible to go back to less efficient, beauty cool interfaces.

Reply Score: 2

looks promising
by REMF on Fri 1st Sep 2006 06:44 UTC
REMF
Member since:
2006-02-05

i am a SUSE KDE fan, but i am tempted to try it.

Reply Score: 1

Impressive
by arctic on Fri 1st Sep 2006 09:42 UTC
arctic
Member since:
2006-04-19

I am amazed by how things proceed. On a Sempron 2400+, the system needs now 23 seconds for booting from grub to gdm, 36 seconds from grub to a working Gnome desktop with no harddisk activity. Two thumbs up.

The Ia Ora theme needs one minor correction imho. The window-border is invisible, thus it is a bit problematic if you want to resize windows and looks a bit weird. A 1 or 2 px border would be enough for making the Metacity even better. The gtk-engine is nice though. ;)

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Huh
by siki_miki on Fri 1st Sep 2006 10:24 UTC
siki_miki
Member since:
2006-01-17

Last year their release was already outdated at release time (compared to what other distros offered at time), but now this looks much better.

Nice to see Mandriva trying to catch up with other big desktop oriented distros (most notably Ubuntu and OpenSuse). They are the only one still doing it the old way, while others rely heavily on community based development which so far produced great results.

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RE: Huh
by AdamW on Sun 3rd Sep 2006 06:58 UTC in reply to "Huh"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually, we started doing community development a long time before Ubuntu or SUSE. Although not, of course, before Debian or Slackware.

The Mandriva volunteer community is hugely involved in Mandriva development, from packaging (for instance, the maintainer of the Mandriva rpm package - which anyone would agree is rather important! - is a community volunteer) to translation, testing (via Cooker, the Mandriva development distribution, which is and always has been fully available to the public) and so forth. If you removed all the effort put in by the community, the quality of the distro would suffer massively.

It's Ubuntu and newly-Open SUSE who are new to the community development party ;)

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Mandriva is still alive ?
by fredb1974 on Fri 1st Sep 2006 11:15 UTC
fredb1974
Member since:
2006-01-31

I thought it was a beheaded duck ?

I think it is a big mistake to make only one release by year. 2 releases, something like every 6 months are a far better idea.

I will grab this beta and test it in VMWare Server, but it will be hard to beat Ubuntu.

Note : I've used Mandrake 9.x version. 10.x were completely unusable on my computer.

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RE: Mandriva is still alive ?
by netpython on Fri 1st Sep 2006 12:12 UTC in reply to "Mandriva is still alive ?"
netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

Note : I've used Mandrake 9.x version. 10.x were completely unusable on my computer.

I liked 8.2,9.1,i abandoned after 10,10.1..
I think they have slept quite a while or simply didn't feel what's outside their headquarters.

Reply Score: 1

RE: Mandriva is still alive ?
by opkool on Fri 1st Sep 2006 16:22 UTC in reply to "Mandriva is still alive ?"
opkool Member since:
2006-02-13

I like 1 release a year. It's waaaay easier to be able to work with Linux vs just keep installing Linux

I believe Mandriva did a poll among it's paying customers, and most of us (I'm a paying customer) wanted a 1-year release cycle.

For latest-version addicted users[*] there's always cooker, which is a lot of fun

[*] I was one of those before ;)

Peace!

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RE[2]: Mandriva is still alive ?
by Mathman on Fri 1st Sep 2006 18:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Mandriva is still alive ?"
Mathman Member since:
2005-07-08

Yeah, isn't it odd how on the one hand the guy complains that 10.x wasn't stable enough, but then turns around and complains about their improved release cycle.

I suppose I'd agree about 10.x not being the greatest Mandrake releases to come down the pipe, but I've been on 2006 since it pretty much came out and it's been one of the most rock solid distros I've ever used. And after trying out the 2007 beta for a bit, it looks like 2007 is going to be just as good. Now if I could only get them to change the name back to Mandrake.

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davidiwharper Member since:
2006-01-01

Now if I could only get them to change the name back to Mandrake.

They can't. The Hearst Corporation would reopen their Mandrake the Magician lawsuit. See http://lwn.net/Articles/144097/ for the settlement announcement and http://www.a42.com/node/118 for background.

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yea
by deanlinkous on Fri 1st Sep 2006 15:13 UTC
deanlinkous
Member since:
2006-06-19

I wondered how many jumped after 8.2 or at the latest 9.1?

I loved 8.2 and liked 9.1 but even 9.1 seemed to be a bit less finished to me than 8.2 - after that I stopped bothering...

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AIGLX and Xgl
by collinm on Fri 1st Sep 2006 20:38 UTC
collinm
Member since:
2005-07-15

does under kde with AIGLX, Xgl we can use kwin?

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RE: AIGLX and Xgl
by AdamW on Sun 3rd Sep 2006 07:00 UTC in reply to "AIGLX and Xgl"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Well I guess you could enable AIGLX and then run kwin as the window manager, but it would be rather pointless as kwin does not do any compositing. So you wouldn't notice any difference.

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