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Will SkyOS ever be released?
If you go to...
http://www.skyos.org/?q=node/408

When will SkyOS 5.0 final be released?
There is not a set date yet. We are currently aiming to release SkyOS 5.0 sometime between Q3 and Q4 of 2006, though this is not set in stone.

I think that text was written quite some time ago. I doubt it will be released in 2006

Thanks.. I must be blind |o)

Agreed that there's a whole bunch of important stuff here, USB being definitely one of them.

However, judging from SkyOS extreme development pace (because in my pov it is improving at an amazing rate) I think things are being done in parallell.

I'm not even sure what SkyOS aim is at the moment, making it even harder to have any idea what is most important at the moment.

However, being a bit supportive (not a user of SkyOS), if OpenGL works right and he can use it to make the desktops graphics blazingly fast, am I wrong to assume that will draw a lot of attention? A lot more than say USB support? I'd assume that's the plan here and then take one step at the time.

At last, knowing that SkyOS and Haiku has shared stuff before (FS comes to mind), would it be stupid to believe that part of these items might be shared again, such as Printing or USB?

also, it's roberts OS. H ecan work on the parts he wants when he wants Have patience, he will eventually get it all.

The problem with the idea that it's only Robert's OS is that if he doesn't focus on users bugs, bugs will stop getting reported. If that happens, by the time the OS has gotten where he wants it to go, it'll work 100% for only one user: Robert :-)

If he's fine with that, then there's no problem taking the attitude that he can work on just the parts he wants, when he wants.

Adam

The problem with the idea that it's only Robert's OS is that if he doesn't focus on users bugs, bugs will stop getting reported.

To be fair, he has fixed many, many reported bugs as well.

However, being a bit supportive (not a user of SkyOS), if OpenGL works right and he can use it to make the desktops graphics blazingly fast, am I wrong to assume that will draw a lot of attention?

Except that it's software OpenGL only that's working. There is no hardware acceleration.

Adam

"I paid 26 euro's once in the hope of having a lightweigth OS for my antique laptop"

Don't want to start a flame war, but there are quite a few linux distros out there which will run on older hardware, are very nice and cost absolutely nothing.

My mouse and keyboard are both USB.

Check your BIOS if usb->ps/2 emulation is enabled. If yes, everything will work just fine (I know from experience).

Still OpenGL and desktop composition is very important, and if SkyOS can reuse Haikus USB-stack later then I would also focus on OpenGL atm.

If he were working on hardware accelerated OpenGL, I might agree with you. But there's no indication that this is the case.

Perhaps if you donated instead of blindy complaining, you'd be able to help them with the bandwidth cost of being linked to by OSNews.com and it's unappreciative users

how can i donate to a project that i don't know the direction? and also that it's lead for just one person.

Course Roberts its an amazing programing, but whats will happens if tomorrow when he wake up he just decide he don't wanna continue??

when a new beta release is out, the server is under very heavy load, which it should be able to handle.

Since the new version of the site, the drupal cms is being used and drupal seems to have have trouble generating pages under heavy traffic, making the site unavailable...

Have you tested this beta? Did you report your problem on the bugtracker?

I'm running this build without any trouble on my native installation.

You make it seem like 3D drivers are the one and only thing an OS needs. That's true if you want to support games.

An os can be perfectly useable without it, though it's always nice if you can accelerate one and other.

good point, though even more so than you might think.

for instance I'm running linux on this G4 powermac using an nvidia geforce 4. there is no open source (or even closed source) driver capable of accelerated 3D for this card on a ppc system.

before really running it I would have thought 3D more pervasive than it is. now however, I see that what's actually important is to have accelerated _2D_ support. playing most (free) games, doing the regular desktop foo, watching DVDs, looking at most of the nifty (x)screensavers, all this is largely 2D stuff. 3D is really only in a small minority of apps out there, at least in Linux land (and I'd guess most of the alternative OSes like SkyOS)

and he STILL doesn't have ANY hardware accelerated 3D? Sad

You seem to be under the impression it's easy to get 3D hardware acceleration. Perhaps you'd like to point all the 'clueless' OS developpers towards ATI and Nvidia's freely available driver specifications?

What Haiku has achieved in hardware acceleration is mostly owed to one extremely talented expert named Rudolf Cornelissen who did some creative hacking.

To my knowledge, Robert has programmed SkyOS 100% solo. So, one wonders why he hasn't been able to manage hardware accelerated 3D as well, even to the degree that Haiku has, which has been/required a team effort since day one.

It's obvious that Robert is the SkyOS equivilent of Haiku's Axel Dorfler. Except he's managed to code an entire OS from the ground up!

Surely *some* amount of hardware accelerated 3D at this stage is within his grasp...