Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Sep 2006 14:39 UTC, submitted by Joel dahl
BSD and Darwin derivatives Marc G. Fournier has launched a new project with the intention to show hardware vendors that there in fact are a lot of BSD users out there. "We are trying to demonstrate to hardware and software vendors out there that BSD should be viewed as a serious operating system, not just as a hobbyist system, for support (i.e. hardware drivers) purposes."
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I'm There
by rycamor on Tue 5th Sep 2006 15:55 UTC
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2005-07-18

FreeBSD users should consider this, even though we tend to not care about numbers. Anything that will get us better hardware support is welcome. Also, perhaps down the road these numbers will help convince potential (or current) employers that you weren't just wasting your time ;-).

I am definitely going to set this up on the 100+ machines I am responsible for.

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almost there
by antik on Tue 5th Sep 2006 16:03 UTC
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2006-05-19

Nice project but with some limitations- it can't detect if current system is some FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD or other OS derivative like: PC-BSD, FreeSBIE, DesktopBSD, RoFreeSBIE, etc.

More organized hardware side would be nice too, with custom queries and report generator- maybe even screen resolution and default desktop environment statistics.

Overall good idea.

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RE: almost there
by JamesTRexx on Tue 5th Sep 2006 16:40 UTC in reply to "almost there"
JamesTRexx Member since:
2005-11-06

I think the first focus should be to just get the *BSD numbers, later on they could sort into versions and hardware statistics.
Just letting manufactors know there is a huge number of installations should be enough to get some to start thinking of support. Even if they only write a driver for one version, it should make it easier to port it to another. (as long as it's not a binary-only driver though)

Reply Score: 3

RE: almost there
by Ronald Vos on Tue 5th Sep 2006 22:14 UTC in reply to "almost there"
Ronald Vos Member since:
2005-07-06

Nice project but with some limitations- it can't detect if current system is some FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD or other OS derivative like: PC-BSD, FreeSBIE, DesktopBSD, RoFreeSBIE, etc.

Given the goals of this project, it doesn't matter wether someone uses FreeBSD or PCBSD; they use the same drivers after all. Better to show a unified listing to vendors rather than a fractured list of systems people want support for.

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Great tool
by Chezz on Tue 5th Sep 2006 17:17 UTC
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2005-07-11

All BSD fans should install this program. I have done this already on FreeBSD.

cd /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats
make install clean

then follow the instructions.

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RE: Great tool
by GMFlash on Tue 5th Sep 2006 17:29 UTC in reply to "Great tool"
GMFlash Member since:
2006-06-30

once it is installed,

ee /etc/periodic.conf

and add these two lines:

monthly_statistics_enable="YES"
monthly_statistics_report_devices="YES"

--------------------------------------------------

I installed it on all of my servers. Great to see something like this.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Great tool
by rycamor on Tue 5th Sep 2006 18:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Great tool"
rycamor Member since:
2005-07-18

If you update your ports (cvsup or portsnap) first, then the latest version of bsdstats automatically sets up the configuration.

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to help out the BSDs
by happycamper on Tue 5th Sep 2006 17:28 UTC
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2006-01-01

sure, i will particiapte.

Reply Score: 1

Great idea
by chris_dk on Tue 5th Sep 2006 17:38 UTC
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2005-07-12

This is a great idea.

It could be cool to view usage statistics for Linux also.

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Linux Counter
by saxiyn on Tue 5th Sep 2006 18:54 UTC
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2005-07-08

This reminds me of The Linux Counter: http://counter.li.org/

Once upon a time, most of new Linux users registered there, if only for fun. Nobody seems to care these days.

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RE: Linux Counter
by twenex on Tue 5th Sep 2006 20:41 UTC in reply to "Linux Counter"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I update my page semiregularly.

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RE: Linux Counter
by dukeinlondon on Tue 5th Sep 2006 20:50 UTC in reply to "Linux Counter"
dukeinlondon Member since:
2005-07-06

The linux counter should do something similar. Actually the linux counter should be initiated by the distros, be in the form of a similar script. Linux like BSD needs actual usage numbers for lobbying purposes.

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v Redundant
by setuid_w00t on Tue 5th Sep 2006 19:35 UTC
RE: Great tool
by JamesTRexx on Tue 5th Sep 2006 21:17 UTC
JamesTRexx
Member since:
2005-11-06

I want to, but the script doesn't provide for a proxy option. All my machines use the proxy to get out there on the big, bad internet.
I'd either have to redirect or allow the connection to this site through the firewall. (not happy to do that)

Reply Score: 2

Good to see.
by w00dst0ck on Tue 5th Sep 2006 21:24 UTC
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Member since:
2006-02-01

I always love to see the ever expanding interest in the *BSD's, be it for OpenBSd, NetBSD, DragonflyBSD, FreeBSD and other BSD friends.

I love everything about the *BSD's, from how clean the partitioning schemes look (slices are nicer than mulitple partitions IMHO), to the consistancy of the handbooks, manuals and overall system experience. I love it.

All the best, to all the *BSD's.

Reply Score: 2

OpenBSD?
by Rugmonster on Tue 5th Sep 2006 22:17 UTC
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2005-11-18

Their script doesn't support OpenBSD. By including the metrics for it on their page with 0 participants, it looks like no one is using it. They should either take it off, or make note of that on the page.

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Where to get it?
by Soulbender on Wed 6th Sep 2006 03:53 UTC
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2005-08-18

Uh, where do you get the script from? Not everyone is using the freebsd ports tree, especially not on non-freebsd systems.

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RE: Where to get it?
by asusanator on Wed 6th Sep 2006 07:13 UTC in reply to "Where to get it?"
asusanator Member since:
2006-02-18

The page isn't that cluttered. Look at the last paragraph of their "Mission":

To participate, download the following script, known to work with FreeBSD and NetBSD: http://www.bsdstats.org/downloads/300.statistics

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Where to get it?
by welmers on Wed 6th Sep 2006 13:19 UTC
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Member since:
2006-09-06

Nice there's a script for non-freebsd users, but how am I supposed to use it? (on NetBSD) Periodicly once a month in cron? What does it send exactly? Can I run it as non-root? Can I re-run the script if I forgot to put monthly_statistics_report_devices="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Of course I could "analyse" the script itself, however some information should be nice...

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: Where to get it?
by phoenix on Fri 8th Sep 2006 00:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Where to get it?"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Read the man page for periodic all your questions are answered in there. This has nothing to do with cron.

Reply Score: 1