Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Sep 2006 20:29 UTC, submitted by Jeffoss
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Mandriva Linux 2007 RC1 has been released. This new release brings the Ia_Ora theme to KDE, and fixes some bugs concerning proprietary video drivers (especially nVIDIA), the b44 network driver, and much more. You can get it via the development (Cooker) mirror trees on ftp and http, and via the preferred method: .iso images (available through the same mirrors as the Cooker ones). There is a changelog too.
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v Come on guys...
by Anonymo on Sat 9th Sep 2006 00:29 UTC
RE: Come on guys...
by AdamW on Sat 9th Sep 2006 02:08 UTC in reply to "Come on guys..."
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Gael Duval was not and had for a long time not been the 'main man' at Mandriva when he departed. He was working mostly from home as the head of the community department; he was not directly involved in the management of the company or the development of any products. This was explained at the time, but obviously it needs to be explained again. Please judge the product on its quality and not on your judgment of the company's internal politics.

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RE: Come on guys...
by gireesh on Sat 9th Sep 2006 02:10 UTC in reply to "Come on guys..."
gireesh Member since:
2005-07-24

We do care. It is just that we are busy trying it out rather than make comments ;) No seriously, have you seen any distro that has such good hardware detection, partitioning, mix of gui tools and power tools and is newbie friendly? I also hope that you know that PCLinuxOS for all it's goodness is based off Mandriva Linux?
Are there problems with Mandriva? Yeah sure, but which distro does not have them?
2007 is shaping up to be a very good release (just as 2006 was till they pushed in Kat and the XOrg from cvs at the last moment). Hope they dont do such things now.
Best Regards
Gireesh

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RE: Come on guys...
by arctic on Sat 9th Sep 2006 11:18 UTC in reply to "Come on guys..."
arctic Member since:
2006-04-19

Well, we do care about it, but there is nothing negative to talk about, so what shall I write here except: It is very stable, almost bug-free by now and lightning fast (Boot time under 30 seconds on my machine!), while looking fresh and being bleeding edge (KDE 2.5, Gnome 2.16, Gimp 2.3,...).

Yes, PCLinuxOS is nice, but without Mandriva, it wouldn't exist, as already pointed out, it is based on Mandriva. ;) And Mandriva is available for free, just to mind you. Since many, many years! Please don't spread false information. Instead, grab a copy of it and test it yourself. It is amazing. ;)

adamw, you did a really great job this time. It is - without any doubts - the best distro Mandriva has ever released. Two thumbs up from my side.

I guess that Mandriva will again be the distro to beat, once 2007 is officially released.

One final note: Other distros also lost their founders or fired them. Who cares? This is a job and in jobs there is fluctuation, wether you like it or not.

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RE[2]: Come on guys...
by Zlogic on Sat 9th Sep 2006 13:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Come on guys..."
Zlogic Member since:
2005-07-06

>while looking fresh and being bleeding edge (KDE 2.5,
All I can say is: wow!

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RE[3]: Come on guys...
by Anonymo on Sat 9th Sep 2006 17:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Come on guys..."
Anonymo Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah I noticed!!! 2.5, they sure are bleeding edge distro. So bleeding edge, I switched to Zenwalk.

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RE[4]: Come on guys...
by arctic on Sat 9th Sep 2006 17:46 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Come on guys..."
arctic Member since:
2006-04-19

Ooops... it is a typo, guys. ;) I meant 3.5.

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kernel-secure
by netpython on Sat 9th Sep 2006 15:03 UTC
netpython
Member since:
2005-07-06

what happened to the kernel-secure mandrake used to ship as well?

Humans can't allways be trusted and neither can software.When will mandriva include SELinux or AppArmor?

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RE: kernel-secure
by AdamW on Sat 9th Sep 2006 19:44 UTC in reply to "kernel-secure"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

We already include RSBAC.

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Impressive!
by larry on Sat 9th Sep 2006 19:34 UTC
larry
Member since:
2006-05-12

Just installed Mandriva livecd. Everything works on this dual-core machine, even 3D effects/compiz desktop is working with one click! This machine has an onboard Intel video card. I'm very impressed!

The new color scheme is nice touch, also. I only wish they have a better icons theme. Getting bored with the same old icons.

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RE: Impressive!
by dark child on Sat 9th Sep 2006 22:14 UTC in reply to "Impressive!"
dark child Member since:
2005-12-09

Yeah, I was impressed as well with the KDE live cd. The artwork is really cool, but I agree with you, the icon theme now looks so dated and so does the galaxy window decoration.

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RE[2]: Impressive!
by Wemgadge on Sun 10th Sep 2006 04:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Impressive!"
Wemgadge Member since:
2005-07-02

I've been running Cooker(Mandriva's Devel version) for awhile now and recently did a clean install of 2007 in beta. A quick sync up with the mirrors and PLF (for proprietary nonsuch) and it was all happiness and rainbows. They have cleaned quite a bit. Also, in contrib there are a ton of kernel options. I'm currently running Kernel 2.6.17.9-mm-desktop-1mdv multimedia kernel available in contrib.

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RE[2]: Impressive!
by Morty on Sun 10th Sep 2006 10:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Impressive!"
Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

I was impressed as well with the KDE live cd

I was not, there was to may annoyances for a RC. The most noticeable was the crapiest looking fonts I have seen on a linux install since 200 or so. For some reason it used a unscalable helvetia like font of some kind, I thought that was something that should not happen anymore.

the icon theme now looks so dated and so does the galaxy window decoration.

In my opinion the Galaxy window decoration is the ugliest decoration used by any distribution avaliable, and a good thing they have decided to get a new one as default. I think picking nearly anyone from kde-look.org would have been better than that one.

Sadly the new one la Ora is not that good either, for one it's title bar is about twice the height it needs to be. Just wasting space with some blending effect or something. Luckily it's easy to change to one of the stock KDE ones. And PLF usually package up the best of the 3rd party ones from kde-look, making better ones easily avaliable.

That said, since I have been a long time Mandriva user I may go back again. The 2006 release was to outdated when I last upgraded, so I picked a different distribution this time.

Edited 2006-09-10 10:55

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RE[3]: Impressive!
by AdamW on Sun 10th Sep 2006 16:31 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Impressive!"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

morty: you obviously didn't read the release notes, which admit the problem with fonts and explain how to work around it:

"Anti-aliasing may not be correctly activated into KDE, you must use kcontrol to force it"

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RE[4]: Impressive!
by Morty on Sun 10th Sep 2006 18:24 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Impressive!"
Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

you obviously didn't read the release notes

Actually I did, but obviously I forgot that part immediately:-( Feeling embarrassed now.

To my defense I can say that the bright orange splash screen temporary chased away my sanity:-) Btw, the blue progresbar in it looks rather strange.

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RE[3]: Impressive!
by larry on Sun 10th Sep 2006 16:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Impressive!"
larry Member since:
2006-05-12

Please read the changelog/release note. I love the anti-aliasing. Don't believe me?

http://vnlinux.org/images/mandriva-live-2007-desktop.png

OK, the icons are not stock. A quick trip to kde-look.org and found realistik icons.

One last wish ;) the artwork for background splash image is not very professional. If you look carefully, the Mandriva icon, the wand magic at the bottom right does not look as good as the background desktop's.

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v RE[4]: Impressive!
by Anonymo on Sun 10th Sep 2006 18:06 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Impressive!"
RE[5]: Impressive!
by larry on Sun 10th Sep 2006 19:57 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Impressive!"
larry Member since:
2006-05-12

I normally don't get into distro war but you said bunch of things without even trying or show any issues that you have with latest Mandriva.

The way it loooks is to each his/her own state. I could go on and say the same thing with other distros look like crap. I was talking about the anti-aliasing look. Try to install latest Kubuntu/Ubuntu and compare how it looks with Mandriva

Also, if you run MySQL performance on dual-core on all distros out there, tell me which one give you highest read/write transactions per second. Then come back here and talk trash about other people work.

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MMM...
by twenex on Sat 9th Sep 2006 20:14 UTC
twenex
Member since:
2006-04-21

I may revisit Mandriva with this one.

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might try this.
by hussam on Sun 10th Sep 2006 04:40 UTC
hussam
Member since:
2006-08-17

I might download the live cd and use it to install next Monday or Tuesday.
But I have two questions, can I gradually update it to 2007 final, or I have to wait until the next RC to get updated?

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RE: might try this.
by AdamW on Sun 10th Sep 2006 07:53 UTC in reply to "might try this."
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

You can update incrementally with Cooker. Go to Easy URPMI - http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ - set distro version to Cooker, follow the instructions to set up 'main' and 'contrib' repositories. Then every day just do:

urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select -v

but remember to remove the repositories (and set up new ones for 2007) when we freeze for 2007 final, otherwise after the unfreeze you'll be running 2008 development stuff ;)

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RE[2]: might try this.
by Wemgadge on Sun 10th Sep 2006 15:18 UTC in reply to "RE: might try this."
Wemgadge Member since:
2005-07-02

Thanks for the tip Adam! After the 2006 release I had gone to cooker for various reasons (mainly to get newest Amarok devel and also KDE 3.5.3). Now that 2007 approaches release, I'm going to get off the release treadmill for awhile and enjoy my desktop (ie: actually just use it). Cheers.

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Mandriva is still at the top, now the themes
by geert on Sun 10th Sep 2006 21:42 UTC
geert
Member since:
2005-12-31

Mandrive is still at the top: even compared with Suse, Kubuntu, you can make everything work easily.

However, I have seen it since 9.0: the graphics are chosen for uglyness and they never include all the standard KDE graphics, which are quite OK.

Why?

Moreover, they lost the topspot because of their new release cycle: people click on distributions only when they are constantly in the news. They should definitely go back to 6 months: too much happens in KDE-world in 1 year.

Edited 2006-09-10 21:45

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