Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 16th Sep 2006 18:38 UTC, submitted by michuk
Window Managers FVWM-Crystal is an eye-candy, functional and ultra-fast desktop environment for GNU/Linux and Unix, based on FVWM. Crystal can be used even on very old machines, thus it is a noticeable alternative to popular desktop choices like XFCE or Fluxbox.
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I'm sorry
by Drune on Sat 16th Sep 2006 19:18 UTC
Drune
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2005-12-04

FVWM-Crystal is indeed a pretty and clean transformation of FVWM, but i'm sorry but every time i remember FVWM i remember the Win95 UI. I guess it's the default FVWM look yet ;)

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RE: I'm sorry
by michuk on Sat 16th Sep 2006 19:21 UTC in reply to "I'm sorry"
michuk Member since:
2006-08-08

Wrong. It's a default, but in Fvwm95 project. Clean FVWM has a default of grey screen with nothing on it ;)

Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FVWM and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FVWM95 for more info on those two.

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RE[2]: I'm sorry
by Drune on Sat 16th Sep 2006 19:28 UTC in reply to "RE: I'm sorry"
Drune Member since:
2005-12-04

Yeah, you right. That is my memory from old times with RedHat 5.2 ;)

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RE[3]: I'm sorry
by kernelpanicked on Sat 16th Sep 2006 19:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm sorry"
kernelpanicked Member since:
2006-02-01

That explains it. Don't judge fvwm by the atrosity that Redhat used to package and call fvwm. Definately not the same. FVWM-Crystal is nice but to me it doesn't seem to be much more than fvwm+a-nice-theme. Is this newsworthy, or did I miss something obvious here?

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RE: I'm sorry
by Get a Life on Sat 16th Sep 2006 20:49 UTC in reply to "I'm sorry"
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2006-01-01

Maybe you should remember fvwm-xpm instead. It was after all the precusor to the development of Enlightenment, and should be flashy-enough for anyone.

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great article
by alcibiades on Sat 16th Sep 2006 21:04 UTC
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2005-10-12

Really enjoyed the article - the enthusiasm is so clear. This, things like elive, slax, its the true spirit of open source, people just doing things they like, with other like minded people joining in. Its the antithesis of the 'computer as appliance' that 'just works' with 'user interface guidelines' fascism. These guys will never dream of doing Bob the paperclip. Its really a celebration of a certain innocent diversity and enthusiasm. We aren't all alike, one size doesn't fit all, and we are not here to control you or even hold your hand.

And who knows, might just try it.

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RE: great article
by Chezz on Sat 16th Sep 2006 23:58 UTC in reply to "great article"
Chezz Member since:
2005-07-11

"Me too"

I like the screenshots more tho ;)

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Looks slick....
by Devilotx on Sun 17th Sep 2006 04:36 UTC
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2005-07-06

might be a nice setup for some lower end hardware or to eek some extra juice from newer stuff.

Is anyone else worried that we will get this in yet another *buntu format soon?

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RE: Looks slick....
by michuk on Sun 17th Sep 2006 05:27 UTC in reply to "Looks slick...."
michuk Member since:
2006-08-08

Crystalbuntu - sounds great ;)
Just kidding.

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RE[2]: Looks slick....
by mkools on Sun 17th Sep 2006 09:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Looks slick...."
mkools Member since:
2005-10-11

What about Cubuntu? ;)

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RE: Looks slick....
by spikeb on Sun 17th Sep 2006 10:08 UTC in reply to "Looks slick...."
spikeb Member since:
2006-01-18

i wasnt until you mentioned it

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good, they should try an installer
by JrezIN on Sun 17th Sep 2006 19:34 UTC
JrezIN
Member since:
2005-06-29

Looks good.
They should also release it with an installer like XFCE's one.

Would probably improve their user base.

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sweet on my athlon 900
by Dekkard on Sun 17th Sep 2006 21:30 UTC
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2006-01-07

I like it. It has many config options, as "recipes" and on my machine running Ubuntu Breezy.. gnome ..well anything seems to suck a lot of resources.. this is nice and light and still has some nice eyecandy.. great job guys.. its my default desktop for the time being.

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yeah, fvwm on RH 5.2 sucked
by yakirz on Sun 17th Sep 2006 22:35 UTC
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2006-05-11

and it took awhile for me to consider it again.

Recently I had installed a copy of RH 5.x on VPC on my iBook. It was as bad in emulation as when I first tried it (included in a beginner's linux book). I played with it for a month or two, got tired of it and dumped it. I couldn't even get Dillo installed, because no version of bunzip would install on it.

But I might give Crystal FVWM a try on some old machines at work.

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looks nice
by hagiz on Mon 18th Sep 2006 02:14 UTC
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2006-01-24

I'm using an old 800mhz P3 laptop with only 256mb ram on school, and xubuntu is slow as hell on it with more than one app running at a time. Think I'll try this tomorrow, looks pretty slick.

Edited 2006-09-18 02:15

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Cool! It's Transparent!
by setuid_w00t on Mon 18th Sep 2006 18:06 UTC
setuid_w00t
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2005-10-22

Very impressive...5 years ago.

I'll stick with KDE thanks.

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Too cluttered
by eydaimon on Mon 18th Sep 2006 18:22 UTC
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2006-03-22

I don't know if I agree with how good of an alternativ e it is to fluxbox. I think the desktop is too cluttered. I admit I haven't tried it, but I probably won't either. I didn't really see any feature in there I don't have in fluxbox.

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