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that's why they can't get outside the Windows Box.
MS doesn't have a flavour or any company style. They make the best tools. But they can't generate excitement nor lust nor anything else. They can't seem to hype their own stuff. Most people don't know that MovieMaker comes with XP. Go look at Apple's site. They show their toys.
MS is like Linux. It's bound to geekdom. And everybody knows that too much of something is bad.
I disagree.
If MS is run by geeks, then by Sales- and marketing geeks. They do not (by far) make "the best tools" whatsoever, but they DO know who and how to persuade to get their stuff sold. As an example, very few sysadmins I know would voluntarily put MS products on their servers. They do because they're told to by their managers who get fed bullshit by MS' sales machine who tries to convince them that they wouldn't be "compatible" or "up to date" if Windows/Exchange/SQL server/whatever wouldn't run on their system. "Get the fact"-FUD campaign, anyone?
But the whole thing is still run by Geeks. How many CEOs would do a Matrix skit at their conferences? TabletPC (star trek fans)? I don't think there is a corporation that has that much geek in it than MS.
MS' stuff is great. You should learn to use their software instead of just brushing them to the side like that because of your negative emotional investment in MS.
PS: Don't be a hater. Repent. 
But the whole thing is still run by Geeks. How many CEOs would do a Matrix skit at their conferences? TabletPC (star trek fans)? I don't think there is a corporation that has that much geek in it than MS
IMHO Google must have more despite having less people overall.
MS' stuff is great. You should learn to use their software instead of just brushing them to the side like that because of your negative emotional investment in MS
If MS stuff was so great, you shouldn't have to learn their software so hard.
Up until today, I'm still aggravated with MS products at work (namely Outlook today, Windows zealots at work blaming me for an Outlook bug that recreate a directory and the options I deleted, at each Windows reboot).
I've known Windows before knowing Linux, and yet, I manage to have far less problems and have way more efficient and reliable products under Linux, all better than any MS product I ever used.
And I'm really annoyed by all the people like you that blame others because they can't blame products from the god MS.
MS is run by geeks
It is?
that's why they can't get outside the Windows Box.
Windows is about the ungeekiest thing I can think of besides towels.
MS doesn't have a flavour or any company style.
Well, that's true.
They make the best tools.
Cough!
They can't seem to hype their own stuff.
Excuse me? Everytime you switch on a tv, read a tech/business headline, use a computer, MicrosoftMicrosoftMicrosoft. With MS products, hype is just about all you do get.
MS is like Linux. It's bound to geekdom.
That's the oddest statement I ever heard. "MS is not like Linux" is probably the only thing MS and I would agree on.
RE[2]: MS is run by geeks
oh, ok they have failed in most their post 2003 projects. Vista might be an success. but it will be one of their first in a long while, and my guess is that zune will flop extremly in the eu. I dont know about the american market but its just my educated guess that it will there too just as the wma flopped big time.
I don't think consumer hardware failure by MS is a secret in any sense, its even published in quarterly financial filings
Its been apparent for some time that beyond mice and keyboards (financially speaking) MS has made no money from consumer hardware products.
I consider the xbox a success at least from a usability standpoint and quality standpoint. It may not have made any money for MS but its a solid product.
Zune and PlaysForSh*t are a failure and bound to fail further.


