Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Oct 2006 19:54 UTC, submitted by JCooper
Linux The Open Source Development Labs and Freedesktop.org announced the 1.0 release of the Portland common desktop interfaces today, less than a year after work started on the project. Portland was conceived last year at the first Desktop Architects Meeting in Portland, as a way of making it easier for ISVs to write applications for Linux.
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lets hope it sticks
by Adurbe on Wed 11th Oct 2006 20:30 UTC
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2005-07-06

I hope it sticks and doesnt go the way of united linux..

also interesting to note that ubuntu arnt on the list though..

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RE: lets hope it sticks
by anda_skoa on Thu 12th Oct 2006 10:13 UTC in reply to "lets hope it sticks"
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

also interesting to note that ubuntu arnt on the list though

xdg-utils is already part of Debian tesing and unstable, so I guess it is in Ubuntu as well.
If version 1.0 makes it into the next Edgy Eft is however a different issue.

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What about...
by fithisux on Wed 11th Oct 2006 20:40 UTC
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2006-01-22

WindowMaker and FVWM?

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RE: What about...
by anda_skoa on Thu 12th Oct 2006 10:16 UTC in reply to "What about..."
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

WindowMaker and FVWM?

If those systems actually provide the necessary infrastructure, e.g. central settings for preferred applications and an assoicated commandline tool, there will be no problem integrating respective code paths.

But as far as I know the two are just window managers without desktop environment framework

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RE[2]: What about...
by vegai on Thu 12th Oct 2006 12:50 UTC in reply to "RE: What about..."
vegai Member since:
2005-12-25

Well, yeah, although WindowMaker is often used with GNUStep.

http://www.gnustep.org

Edited 2006-10-12 12:50

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ATI
by Kroc on Wed 11th Oct 2006 20:43 UTC
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2005-11-10

"He also says that "we have confirmation" that ATI is moving towards opening up its capabilities for video drivers since the company's acquisition by AMD"

I may have missed this already, but that seems like the real news to me here.

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Rocking!
by Stunami on Wed 11th Oct 2006 21:11 UTC
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2005-07-06

This surely can only be good!

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Nicey
by Temcat on Wed 11th Oct 2006 21:18 UTC
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2005-10-18

Too bad that opening the native file/print/whatever dialog window from the inside of an app is stated only as a long term goal :-(

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.NET for Linux?
by Dolphin on Wed 11th Oct 2006 21:58 UTC
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2006-05-01

Is that what it is? A common platform that takes API to the next level but without complete bloated virtualization like that of Java?

Or am I missing something?
http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/235

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RE: .NET for Linux?
by smitty on Wed 11th Oct 2006 22:07 UTC in reply to ".NET for Linux?"
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2005-10-13

No, they are completely different. .Net is a huge set of libraries that tries to do just about anything you'd ever want to - just like Java. This is simply a small interface that provides a common base between different distributions/desktop environments.

Edited 2006-10-11 22:08

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RE: .NET for Linux?
by zambizzi on Thu 12th Oct 2006 03:12 UTC in reply to ".NET for Linux?"
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2006-04-23

Childish jab at Java...a little .NOT bias maybe? Wrapping Win32 w/ a JIT-based VM...like JAVA isn't bloat, however?

Interesting how I am able to use less ram w/ better responsiveness in Netbeans and Eclipse than I could w/ Visual Studio 2005?

But I digress...no, you missed something.

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RE[2]: .NET for Linux?
by BluenoseJake on Thu 12th Oct 2006 13:10 UTC in reply to "RE: .NET for Linux?"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Perhaps that caused by all the missing features?

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RE: .NET for Linux?
by vegai on Thu 12th Oct 2006 12:56 UTC in reply to ".NET for Linux?"
vegai Member since:
2005-12-25

What you're missing is that you're talking about neither Java nor .NET, but of Inferno:

http://www.vitanuova.com/

There's your common platform without bloat. What completely boggles me that people are not wildly enthusiast about *that*.

Of all things, why Linux?

Edited 2006-10-12 12:57

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Only Linux?
by JamesTRexx on Wed 11th Oct 2006 22:12 UTC
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2005-11-06

I do hope they mean writing applications for KDE and Gnome, not the OS as that's usually not the desktop environment.

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RE: Only Linux?
by Terracotta on Wed 11th Oct 2006 22:23 UTC in reply to "Only Linux?"
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2005-08-15

Well as long as it's not graphical I think both can make use of it, their main goal is to make GNOME and KDE use more similar libraries, I think it's a nice idea, and from what I heard KDE is going to use more and more portland stuff, now let's hope GNOME follows. As long as the two have their own different UI and way of working, using similar libraries under the hood can be a benifit for both.

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RE: Only Linux?
by anda_skoa on Thu 12th Oct 2006 10:24 UTC in reply to "Only Linux?"
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2005-07-07

I do hope they mean writing applications for KDE and Gnome, not the OS as that's usually not the desktop environment.

As far as I know there are no OS specific things in our code and if there are we are not rejecting patched to fix that.

The press release is mainly focusing on Linux because the target audience, i.e. independent software developers, are currently interested in "Linux" solutions.

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Wait...
by Tuishimi on Thu 12th Oct 2006 05:46 UTC
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2005-07-06

...is this going to be some sort of shared wrapper library? Or would KDE and GNOME people write their own set of APIs that match?

I know one more item on the call stack is not a big deal, but with the UI's becoming more complex and more graphical and dynamic, any little bit of extra code or time spent pushing and popping all sorts of junk just doesn't seem worth it. Pick a UI and be happy with its suite.

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RE: Wait...
by anda_skoa on Thu 12th Oct 2006 10:31 UTC in reply to "Wait..."
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

...is this going to be some sort of shared wrapper library? Or would KDE and GNOME people write their own set of APIs that match?

The next step, DAPI, will be a library on the application side, as well as set of D-Bus interfaces on the desktop side, which in turn can be implemented by the desktop environments usual service infrastructure or by additional "adapters".

The second approach is more likely the one used for older/current versions of the desktops, while directly implementing the interfaces will be more likely used for future versions

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