Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Oct 2006 15:21 UTC, submitted by Charles A Landemaine
PC-BSD The PC-BSD Team is pleased to announce the availability of PC-BSD 1.3 BETA1. This release gives users and testers the opportunity to test-drive the new PC-BSD install wizard, along with the updated base system, running KDE 3.5.4, an improved look and feel, and many other enhancements.
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pf
by netpython on Thu 19th Oct 2006 16:14 UTC
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2005-07-06

During the GUI install you have the opportunity to enable the OpenBSD pf firewall.Awesome :-)

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Keep up the good work!
by solidsnake on Thu 19th Oct 2006 16:34 UTC
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2006-06-04

Things seem to be moving along smoothly.
I really like this OS. Nice and solid. Now that the developers have more financial backing and more time to spend on working out the bugs, this system can only get better!

Keep up the good work!

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Cool
by Edward on Thu 19th Oct 2006 16:55 UTC
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2005-09-17

I plan to replace OpenSuSE 10 with PC-BSD.

Reply Score: 4

Incredible
by Joe User on Thu 19th Oct 2006 16:59 UTC
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2005-06-29

I've been following this project for a while, and it's so much better than other *nix systems. It just works, and almost no customization is necessary... My only problem was with CUPS. The screenshots look good. I'll wait the final release though.

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PC-BSD just plain awesome
by Don T. Bothers on Thu 19th Oct 2006 17:39 UTC
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2006-03-15

I've been suffering trying to use FreeBSD as a desktop system for years. While their ports/package system work great for server usage, they fall apart when trying to use for large desktop applications (like X, Gnome, OpenOffice) due to the number of security bugs and time to compile these huge monsters. Enter PC-BSD. Everything is automated and just works. It is not only the easiest BSD to use, but I would say it competes with Windows, Mac in the ease of use department. While PBIs are terrible for server usage, they are a godsend for workstation usage. Kudos to the great job the PCBSD team is doing. Now I could live in a BSD world, using FreeBSD on my servers and PCBSD on my workstations.

PCBSD/FreeBSD are the Ubuntu/Debian combo of the BSD world.

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"improved look and feel"
by anonymousbrowser on Thu 19th Oct 2006 17:45 UTC
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2006-04-28

Improved? by this i assume they mean "We now look more amatuerish and windows like than ever before, we rock!"

is this the default theme and UI font? Horrible!

Edited 2006-10-19 17:46

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VERY NICE
by twanj on Thu 19th Oct 2006 17:58 UTC
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2006-05-25

I use Windows, Ubuntu, FC6, and PC-BSD - I'm beginning to prefer PC-BSD.

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@edvard @anonimousbrowser
by nedvis on Thu 19th Oct 2006 18:22 UTC
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2006-01-02

"Is this the default theme and UI font? Horrible!"

Maybe, but, hey, you can do everything you want to make your desktop look better.
This is my PCBSD desktop:
http://www.geocities.com/n_visnjic/pcbsd/ssPCBSD4.jpg
and how about this:
http://www.geocities.com/n_visnjic/pcbsd/ssPCBSD3.jpg

PSBSD is definitely something you can customize and tweak the way you want.
"I plan to replace OpenSuSE 10 with PC-BSD"
I did it a year ago since PCBSD proved to be better
choice for my Pentium II 450 MHz than SuSE 10.

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oooh =(
by SK8T on Thu 19th Oct 2006 18:32 UTC
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2006-06-01

the new look and feel is ugly!

Why do you copy Vista? Don't they have own ideas?

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RE: oooh =(
by dean_fry on Thu 19th Oct 2006 19:04 UTC in reply to "oooh =("
dean_fry Member since:
2005-07-06

isn't the look and feel the one from kubuntu? well i like it a lot better than the old one! but if you don't like it...just switch it ;)

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RE: oooh =(
by Charles A Landemaine on Thu 19th Oct 2006 19:24 UTC in reply to "oooh =("
Charles A Landemaine Member since:
2005-11-11

We target regular users who are for most of them MS Windows users and while we don't want to copy MS Windows, there are things that these users feel more comfortable with, such as crystal look and feel or a "Start" menu.

Adapting to the tastes of our target user base is critical for massive adoption. PC-BSD targets users who don't need to be computer savvy to use Unix, and also offers a fully-functional FreeBSD system for developers and system administrators to feel at home.

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RE[2]: oooh =(
by protagonist on Fri 20th Oct 2006 07:35 UTC in reply to "RE: oooh =("
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2005-07-06

PCBSD does one thing none of the Linux distros I use has done with this system It configures my display to 1280x1024. Now why can't Linux bet it right?

Anyway, that was one of the nicest installs I have done. Clean and informative. This is a keeper.

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RE: oooh =(
by solidsnake on Thu 19th Oct 2006 20:11 UTC in reply to "oooh =("
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2006-06-04

When I first saw a screenshot of Vista, I thought it looked liked they borrowed the window decor from something on the window decor list of KDE. PC-BSD is not trying to be so different that it scares away potential first time users.

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RE: oooh =(
by flywheel on Fri 20th Oct 2006 07:52 UTC in reply to "oooh =("
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2005-12-28

Are you sure that it isn't Redmond that has copied KDE ?

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Go PC-BSD Go!
by TaterSalad on Thu 19th Oct 2006 18:45 UTC
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2005-07-06

PC-BSD is just absolutely wonderful. Looking at the release schedule there is a point release every month. How about that for progress. With iXsystems backing it this operating system is going to be a real contender on the desktop.

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Open ports, I18N etc.
by Doc Pain on Thu 19th Oct 2006 19:32 UTC
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2006-10-08

I like PC-BSD to give it to other people who want to have an operating system on their computer (instead of a replacement made by MICROS~1). PC-BSD does a good job, but lacks a few applications that really rue, e. g. the Midnight Commander or X-Chat. The german internationalization could be much better as well, but other ways than the seldom used GETTEXT don't be in the focus of the PC-BSD developers.

The GUI doesn't look good. It looks too much like... you know what it looks like. Why has everythink to look this way? Looking childish, playful...

And - by default - some strange TCP and UDP ports seem to be open. I could state this as I had a PC-BSD machine on the network here at work. That should NOT be the default behaviour. This could be a security risk...

The PBI package system is quite cool and makes it easy to install applications. Because it's a FreeBSD, you can use the "old fashioned" ways of installing applications as well, make install, pkg_add and portinstall. You have the strong features of BSD plus the easy tools for administration. This composition is great.

Finally, I have to admit, thatt I prefer a "real handmade" FreeBSD installation with WindowMaker. :-)

Edited 2006-10-19 19:34

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ipw3945
by justinc on Thu 19th Oct 2006 20:10 UTC
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2006-07-24

Anyone know if the wpi driver from OpenBSD has been ported over?

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RE: ipw3945
by antik on Thu 19th Oct 2006 21:12 UTC in reply to "ipw3945"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

Anyone know if the wpi driver from OpenBSD has been ported over?

Not yet, we got ipw right now.

NAME
ipw -- Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 IEEE 802.11 driver

SYNOPSIS
To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following lines in your
kernel configuration file:

device ipw
device pci
device wlan

Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at boot time, place the
following lines in loader.conf(5):

if_ipw_load="YES"
wlan_load="YES"

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RE[2]: ipw3945
by justinc on Thu 19th Oct 2006 21:39 UTC in reply to "RE: ipw3945"
justinc Member since:
2006-07-24

How about ipw2200

I have two laptops, guess which cards I have... ;)

Trying an install on a desktop and the mouse isn't working during the install. I had to pass *2* no acpi cause the installer dumped.

Thanks,

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RE[3]: ipw3945
by antik on Thu 19th Oct 2006 22:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ipw3945"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

How about ipw2200

Port: iwi-firmware-2.4_7
Path: /usr/ports/net/iwi-firmware
Info: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Driver Firmware
Maint: flz@FreeBSD.org
B-deps:
R-deps:
WWW: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/

Port: iwi-firmware-kmod-3.0_1
Path: /usr/ports/net/iwi-firmware-kmod
Info: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Firmware Kernel Module
Maint: flz@FreeBSD.org
B-deps:
R-deps:
WWW: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/

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panic: ....
by justinc on Thu 19th Oct 2006 22:04 UTC
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2006-07-24

agp0: <NVIDIA nForce3-250 AGP Controller> mem 0xe0000000-0xefffffff at device 0. 0 on pci0

panic: pmap_mapdev: Couldn't alloc kernel virtual memory

Uptime: 1s
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds


Boot with ACPI disabled doesn't work after install either.

Dropped my overclocking down and disabled speed spectrum on the mobo, still no go

Safe Mode Panics
Single User Mode Panics

Option 5 -verbose logging....spins through and reboots it self before I can see anything, what I can catch is something to do with pmap.

So guess I got to figure out what pmap_mapdev is.

Are there any options at the loader prompt I can try?

Thank you,

P.S. I'll post on the user forum too.
P.P.S I use Linux on here daily, Solaris 11ish and Freebsd 6.1

http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?p=35838#35838

Edited 2006-10-19 22:12

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RE: panic: ....
by netpython on Fri 20th Oct 2006 11:38 UTC in reply to "panic: ...."
netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

agp0: <NVIDIA nForce3-250 AGP Controller> mem 0xe0000000-0xefffffff at device 0. 0 on pci0

That's strange,i also have a nvidia nforce3-250 chipset.But can't reproduce the above error message.

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RE[2]: panic: ....
by justinc on Fri 20th Oct 2006 13:29 UTC in reply to "RE: panic: ...."
justinc Member since:
2006-07-24

Yeah, I assume that has nothing to do with it, just cp the top most part of the error message.

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RE: panic: ....
by netpython on Sat 21st Oct 2006 07:59 UTC in reply to "panic: ...."
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2005-07-06

What does your kernel config look like?

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PCBSD
by TusharG on Fri 20th Oct 2006 02:35 UTC
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2005-07-06

I'm gonna wait till 1.4 release to install it on Notebook.. since 1.4 has PPPOE connectivity.

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RE: PCBSD
by Charles A Landemaine on Fri 20th Oct 2006 12:23 UTC in reply to "PCBSD "
Charles A Landemaine Member since:
2005-11-11

I'm gonna wait till 1.4 release to install it on Notebook.. since 1.4 has PPPOE connectivity.

You can use this tutorial in the meantime: http://faqs.pcbsd.org/6_17_en.html

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Extended partitions ?
by flywheel on Fri 20th Oct 2006 07:59 UTC
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2005-12-28

Will the install program handle extended partitions ?

The last time I tried PC-BSD, my primary OS was almost wiped out, my sencondary was totally wiped out - only WinXP was untouched because as preinstalled OS it was located on a primary partition.

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RE: Extended partitions ?
by flywheel on Fri 20th Oct 2006 08:56 UTC in reply to "Extended partitions ?"
flywheel Member since:
2005-12-28

Ah I got my answer in the Quick guide :

PC-BSD only recognizes primary partitions and considers logical partitions as a whole primary partition. Trying to install on a logical partition will convert your extended partition into a primary partition and erase all logical partitions of your system.

OK, then no PC-BSD on my laptops nor my desktop machines ;)

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Looks great
by flywheel on Fri 20th Oct 2006 08:19 UTC
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2005-12-28

The new install wiz look great. I'm thrilled that a server installation is possible. I've always wanted a FreeBSD om my server - and have tried a couple of times - but always endded up with an OpenSUSE.

I've had plans to replace the OpenSUSE with an eComStation on the server, but this news will make me rethink that plan again.

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vinzer
Member since:
2006-08-16

i tried out pc-bsd 1.0 back then, and it was a joy to use, except that there were minor hiccups in that my graphic tablet didn't work, and i never got my printer to work (though that could be simply user stupidity on my part; i'm not CUPS-savvy).

anyway, for the most part, it auto-detected the other components of my system, and it was a joy to use. i thought i'd wait some time before using it again, so that more PBI software will be available, as well as better hardware support.

time to play around with the little red devil again. ;)

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