Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Oct 2006 15:50 UTC, submitted by jayson.knight
Mozilla & Gecko clones This week the Mozilla Foundation released Firefox 2.0, and that occasion did not go by unnoticed at Microsoft's Internet Explorer team. "The Microsoft Internet Explorer Team sent us a cake for the upcoming release of Firefox 2! A big thanks to Redmond, Washington!" What's next, Stallman on a dinner date with Ballmer?
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That's so nice
by rhyder on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:23 UTC
rhyder
Member since:
2005-09-28

"Hey! That's so nice. Hmm... it's ticking."

Reply Score: 5

Awww
by wirespot on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:33 UTC
wirespot
Member since:
2006-06-21

...that's cute.

Reply Score: 2

John Blink
Member since:
2005-10-11

Stallman: "Hey would you like some hair? It is free you know."

Ballmer: Freaking developers...developers, developers!!

Reply Score: 5

Good!
by microFawad on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:38 UTC
microFawad
Member since:
2005-12-09

Hmmmm they are good competitors because they congratulate there rivals.

Reply Score: 4

RE: Good!
by twenex on Wed 25th Oct 2006 17:49 UTC in reply to "Good!"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

That's not entirely true: Firefox runs on Windows, so they get the world's 1st or 2nd best browser on their operating system. If somehow someone releases a browser that causes users to switch en masse to a different platform, chair shops in the Redmond area will experience a sudden and dramatic increase in sales.

Reply Score: 3

The IE Team is grateful...
by asupcb on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:40 UTC
asupcb
Member since:
2005-11-10

because if it weren't for Firefox Microsoft would never have put the team back together seeing as how Microsoft disbanded them back in 2002/2003.

Reply Score: 5

RE: The IE Team is grateful...
by umccullough on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:53 UTC in reply to "The IE Team is grateful..."
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

And Microsoft is also grateful for real competition. Without competition, everyone would be screaming "monopoly!" even louder still - and the DOJ and EU would be pounding on them even worse.

It is healthy business to have competition, and Microsoft has learned this ;)

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: The IE Team is grateful...
by Shaman on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:55 UTC in reply to "RE: The IE Team is grateful..."
Shaman Member since:
2005-11-15

It is healthy business to have competition, and Microsoft has learned this ;)

I was with you right up to this part.

Reply Score: 5

v RE[3]: The IE Team is grateful...
by twenex on Wed 25th Oct 2006 17:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: The IE Team is grateful..."
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Let's not forget this:

http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15586

I'm sure there are still those conspiracy theorists out there, however, that can't for the life of them figure out why Microsoft would welcome their competition.

Reply Score: 2

Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

....because since IE copied the blueprint that Mozilla created, they were actually able to meet a deadline. Unlike that clusterf*ck - P.O.S operating system that's coming out soon.

Reply Score: 0

Spinspinspin
by sappyvcv on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:43 UTC
sappyvcv
Member since:
2005-07-06

Hm... how can this be spun to make Microsoft look evil? Some help here please.

Reply Score: 5

RE: Spinspinspin
by jbrader on Wed 25th Oct 2006 18:06 UTC in reply to "Spinspinspin"
jbrader Member since:
2005-11-12

They obviously only sent the cake to fatten up the Firefox developers and thereby shorten their lives. What new low will they stoop to next?

Reply Score: 5

RE[2]: Spinspinspin
by raver31 on Thu 26th Oct 2006 06:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Spinspinspin"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

that strategy will take too long. instead, the icing was laced with a narcotic substance.
so they were expecting the ff developers to space out and make psychedelic skins that would make normal peoples eyes freak out when we looked at the screen,

thats actually a good idea...

space cakes mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Reply Score: 1

RE: Spinspinspin
by smitty_one_each on Wed 25th Oct 2006 18:15 UTC in reply to "Spinspinspin"
smitty_one_each Member since:
2005-07-07

Ummmm...the IE team knew that the Firefox team has a significant diabetic contingent, and was taunting them...
(I made that up, having no knowledge of the Firefox team, but liking the "All Redmond Deeds Must Be Interpreted As Evil" meme).

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Spinspinspin
by Chicken Blood on Wed 25th Oct 2006 20:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Spinspinspin"
Chicken Blood Member since:
2005-12-21

They made the cake from their own faeces. It's full of ecoli!

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Spinspinspin
by Chicken Blood on Wed 25th Oct 2006 20:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Spinspinspin"
Chicken Blood Member since:
2005-12-21

Parse error: parse error in /home/osnews/web/header.php on line 141
Parse error: parse error in /home/osnews/web/header.php on line 141
Parse error: parse error in /home/osnews/web/header.php on line 141

Edited 2006-10-25 20:22

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: Spinspinspin
by devnull on Wed 25th Oct 2006 20:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Spinspinspin"
devnull Member since:
2005-07-06

>Fatal error: Call to undefined function:
>subscription()in /home/osnews/web/header.php on line 26

Reply Score: 1

OMG
by algemba on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:44 UTC
algemba
Member since:
2006-10-25

The cake was poisoned! ;)

Reply Score: 5

What was on the cake?
by Bit_Rapist on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:51 UTC
Bit_Rapist
Member since:
2005-11-13

It has not been widely reported but the cake has steve balmer painted on it with the quotation

"i'm gonna f*cking bury you guys! I've done it before and I'll do it again!" ;)

Reply Score: 5

Nine years ago..
by mick3 on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:57 UTC
mick3
Member since:
2006-01-02

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars

In October 1997, Internet Explorer 4.0 was released. The release party in San Francisco featured a ten-foot-tall letter "e" logo. Netscape employees showing up to work the following morning found that giant logo on their front lawn, with a sign attached which read "From the IE team." The Netscape employees promptly knocked it over and set a giant figure of their Mozilla dinosaur mascot atop it, holding a sign reading "Netscape 72, Microsoft 18"

http://home.snafu.de/tilman/mozilla/stomps.html

Reply Score: 5

v lol
by SK8T on Wed 25th Oct 2006 17:33 UTC
devs are more mature than their fanboys
by MollyC on Wed 25th Oct 2006 17:40 UTC
MollyC
Member since:
2006-07-04

The fact is, developers don't hold their competitors in contempt, hold them as "evil", or scum, or whatever. They generally respect each other.

Their fanboys, on the other hand...

Edited 2006-10-25 17:40

Reply Score: 5

Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Twenex, all your chair jokes are kind of... Like, not funny.

Especially when you take into account nobody as ever verified the story which came from an... Ex-employee. Now that's what I call an unbiased source.

Reply Score: 1

twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Not to your taste? Fair enough. Nevertheless, urban myths are handy reference points.

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Rayz Member since:
2006-06-24

Nevertheless, urban myths are handy reference points.

Now that's funny!

.. :-D

Reply Score: 1

raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

Thom, they are whats called "eye-witness reports"...

now, an eye-witness report will stand up in a court of law unless the aggreived party diputes it.

did ballmer deny it ?
did anyone deny it ?

lack of denial gives weight to the report, therefore it is not unbiased.

but I agree, the chair joke is worn out, lets focus on the main points... ballmers monkey boy dance.

Reply Score: 1

Rayz Member since:
2006-06-24

Ah so that's it; MS mercilessly crushed their competition out of respect

No, they mercilessly crushed the competition because that's what their shareholders expect them to do.

If you want ethics, then invest in a different company, or use an OS with neglible desktop share.

Reply Score: 1

tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

People seem to expect ethics only when they're at a disadvantage. If they (or their allies) were using similar tactics, I have little doubt that they'd rationalize it away.

Reply Score: 1

twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Ah so that's it; MS mercilessly crushed their competition out of respect

No, they mercilessly crushed the competition because that's what their shareholders expect them to do.


Yeah, that was kinda the point.

If you want ethics, then invest in a different company, or use an OS with neglible desktop share.

I think you'll find that's the case already...

Reply Score: 1

ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

They, much like the fanboys, hold the management in contempt. I don't see the difference.

It's always hard to hold your peers in contempt, even if you envy them or despise what their work has done to your typical work-day.

Reply Score: 1

Closed cake recipe
by Isolationist on Wed 25th Oct 2006 18:17 UTC
Isolationist
Member since:
2006-05-28

I wonder when they will open up the cake recipe for public scrutiny? ;)

Reply Score: 3

RE: Closed cake recipe
by twenex on Wed 25th Oct 2006 19:33 UTC in reply to "Closed cake recipe"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Shared (chocolate) sauce?

Or maybe there'll just be an accidental-on-purpose release of sauce cocoa from CakeXP.

Reply Score: 1

You know what they say
by Jody on Wed 25th Oct 2006 19:32 UTC
Jody
Member since:
2005-06-30

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Reply Score: 4

what is next?
by devnull on Wed 25th Oct 2006 20:06 UTC
devnull
Member since:
2005-07-06

IE team to use Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox code to improve IE? Nah!

Reply Score: 1

RE: what is next?
by subspawn on Thu 26th Oct 2006 06:06 UTC in reply to "what is next?"
subspawn Member since:
2006-04-28

IE team to use Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox code to improve IE? Nah!

They wouldn't doubt if it was licensed like BSD ;)

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: what is next?
by JrezIN on Thu 26th Oct 2006 13:24 UTC in reply to "RE: what is next?"
JrezIN Member since:
2005-06-29

They wouldn't doubt if it was licensed like BSD ;)

Too bad it's not, everyone would be happier! =]

Reply Score: 1

the real cake
by GCrain on Wed 25th Oct 2006 20:46 UTC
GCrain
Member since:
2005-07-11

It was a BIG cake and Steve Ballmer jumped out wearing a speedo! It caused the developers to go blind....

Reply Score: 3

Entertainment
by TheOtherPJ on Wed 25th Oct 2006 20:55 UTC
TheOtherPJ
Member since:
2006-07-18

>Stallman on a dinner date with Ballmer?

I would pay to see that ;)

Reply Score: 2

RE: Entertainment
by tomcat on Thu 26th Oct 2006 15:37 UTC in reply to "Entertainment"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Oh, man. I certainly wouldn't. Ick.

Reply Score: 1

Stallman and Ballmer on a date...
by Buck on Wed 25th Oct 2006 16:14 UTC
Buck
Member since:
2005-06-29

Make love, not software.

Reply Score: 4

twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

LOL

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Havin_it Member since:
2006-03-10

Remind me to google this in a couple of weeks' time and see if this page comes up:
"stallman and ballmer" "make love"

...

On second thoughts, maybe that's a search too far.

Reply Score: 1

toxic!
by freaks on Thu 26th Oct 2006 00:08 UTC
freaks
Member since:
2006-02-17

it's probably a dangerous cake, with experimental chemical substances in its ingredients..
i for one would never let this thing approach me less then few meters..
please insert driver disc for the cake v2.1
cake access violation error, press f1 to continue..

Reply Score: 1

hm mm
by poundsmack on Thu 26th Oct 2006 01:59 UTC
poundsmack
Member since:
2005-07-13

"...unfortunatly the mozilla team was unable to eat because of a possible vonerability in it that could have given the developers a virus. when the developers asked microsoft for the recipe of the cake to confirm that it was ok to eat microsoft said that that was closed information and if they didnt like it they could make there own..."

FireFox Cake 2.0

Edited 2006-10-26 02:00

Reply Score: 1

hmmm...
by th3rmite on Thu 26th Oct 2006 02:03 UTC
th3rmite
Member since:
2006-01-08

Did anyone do a virus scan on the cake? They should send the cake off to some security consultants and see how many bugs there are in it...

Reply Score: 1

Heh...
by bornagainenguin on Thu 26th Oct 2006 05:49 UTC
bornagainenguin
Member since:
2005-08-07

I'll believe the developers respect each other when typing about:mozilla no longer makes IE blue... Does it still do that in version 7?

--bornagainpenguin

Reply Score: 1

Historical Reference?
by wakeupneo on Thu 26th Oct 2006 06:44 UTC
wakeupneo
Member since:
2005-07-06

Maybe we're missing the real message here. Marie Antoinette is (some say incorrectly) quoted as saying.. "If they have no bread, then let them eat cake!"

Is this a snide remark about the Mozilla teams finances? Or maybe 'bread' means market share/slice of the consumer pie?? ;)

Reply Score: 1

Cake or no cake
by Darkelve on Thu 26th Oct 2006 06:48 UTC
Darkelve
Member since:
2006-02-06

Cake or no cake, won't stop my download of Firefox 2.O ;)

Reply Score: 1

RE: Cake or no cake
by Rayz on Thu 26th Oct 2006 09:56 UTC in reply to "Cake or no cake"
Rayz Member since:
2006-06-24

Cake or no cake, won't stop my download of Firefox 2.O ;)

Why the hell would it?? ....

:-/

Reply Score: 1

Probably
by deathshadow on Thu 26th Oct 2006 10:45 UTC
deathshadow
Member since:
2005-07-12

Just Microsoft laughing at them for releasing under a 'major revision' a version that is little more than a re-skinning... Look, we changed how the UI looks!!! Must be a new version...

Seriously, are there any 'useful' features or REAL changes in 2.0 that warrants this new version number, or did they just do the number increase for marketing purposes?

You KNOW when they list 'visual uplift' and 'exit survey' among the new features, they are really grasping at straws.

Reply Score: 1

RE: Probably
by devnull on Thu 26th Oct 2006 11:37 UTC in reply to "Probably"
devnull Member since:
2005-07-06

For a moment i thought you where talking about IE7 but it turns out you talk about FF2 being just some kind of skin update.

Please try and do some research and then post something usefull because your post makes you look real dumb.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0/releasenotes/

Reply Score: 0

RE: Probably
by Alleister on Thu 26th Oct 2006 14:59 UTC in reply to "Probably"
Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

There are some nice new features like integrated spellchecking (i only installed the german spellchecking so far, so don't you dare to laugh at my mistakes in this post).
It still is far ahead of internet explorer feature wise.

I guess the cake just shows what i always thought anyway: the guys who do the actual work at Microsoft are your avarage nice programmer you would find in any company.

Reply Score: 1