Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 29th Oct 2006 23:07 UTC
AMD At an event in Mumbai, soon after the completion of the acquisition of ATI, AMD announced a line of latest Vista-ready ATI Radeon graphic processors. According to Chris Jones, corporate vice president - Windows Core OS Division, "Microsoft will deliver a series of graphics innovations with Windows Vista that provide a customer experience that is second to none. We could not have achieved this without our partnership with ATI. From day one, ATI has played a key role in helping us design and validate the new driver model at the heart of Windows Vista, and ATI has since developed robust and performant drivers that highlight the capabilities of our new operating system."
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by Phloptical on Sun 29th Oct 2006 23:30 UTC
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by BluenoseJake on Mon 30th Oct 2006 15:54 UTC in reply to "Blah, blah"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I don't really remember the article mentioning a mac, so it's irrelevant. The graphics engine in Vista is more than just a pretty face, it's also a developer friendly xml-based api

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RE[2]: Blah, blah
by Phloptical on Mon 30th Oct 2006 22:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Blah, blah"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

Maybe you're right, but I don't remember the article mentioning anything about Vista being developer based anything. So in that regard, your comment is just about as irrelevant as my post.

Besides, only about 0.2% of the Windows user population even know what "xml-based api" means, or cares, for that matter. It's still no reason to upgrade when it's released.

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RE[3]: Blah, blah
by BluenoseJake on Tue 31st Oct 2006 16:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Blah, blah"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

"Maybe you're right, but I don't remember the article mentioning anything about Vista being developer based anything. So in that regard, your comment is just about as irrelevant as my post. "

Not really, as the more apps developed for Vista, the more use the consumer will get out of it, ergo, more developer support, more happy consumers. The API improvements, the improvements to Direct X (better games, very relevant), the improvements to the UI, they all benefit the consumer, in one way or another so my statement is relevant.

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RE: Blah, blah
by Zoidberg on Mon 30th Oct 2006 17:50 UTC in reply to "Blah, blah"
Zoidberg Member since:
2006-02-11

Wasn't this comment modded down, as it should be? No offense but I'm becoming really disappointed in the moderating on this site. Obvious troll posts and other junk are getting modded back up and I don't understand why.

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RE[2]: Blah, blah
by Phloptical on Mon 30th Oct 2006 23:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Blah, blah"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

Whatever, dude. How's that high-horse been working for you?

I was merely commenting on the ridiculously preposterous statement that anything in Vista can be considered "second to none". You don't agree.....hey, that's your problem.

I also find it funny that MS is beginning to think of the hardware vendors in the same way that Apple controls them. I'm not sure that it's warranted, but I find it amusing.

Sorry if I offended, but I ran out of kool-aid last night. I'll be sure to take a big swig the next time I read any statement from MS regarding Vista.

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RE: Blah, blah
by jcinacio on Mon 30th Oct 2006 23:28 UTC in reply to "Blah, blah"
jcinacio Member since:
2006-03-12

You think the company execs really believe the BS they're spewing? They gotta be walking out of these press conferences laughing their asses off.

I'm actually inclined to believe that myself...

Who needs innovation and quality when you have marketing?

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RE[2]: Blah, blah
by Phloptical on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 00:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Blah, blah"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

Too true! :} Better watch out around here, saying stuff like that will get you called "troll" and your post modded out of existence.

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I don't know about you....
by Anon on Mon 30th Oct 2006 00:32 UTC
Anon
Member since:
2006-01-02

... but I'm an average Joe. I went through the Linux phase years ago, but then gave up when I needed to use something to get the job done with minimal effort - Windows. I am sill open to the option of Linux, but most likely once KDE 4 is out, and AIGLX is working well.

Now, I've been using WinXP for a while now (Actually 2000, but I got a pirated copy of XP and it seems to be alright), but for the love of me, I can't see the point in 'upgrading' to Vista any time soon, especially given the hardware requirements. I just don't care.

Given the price of the OS itself (ridiculous), and the hardware requirements, it makes an Mac a serious choice - especially one with a Core 2 CPU.

I don't know what the point of this post is, but I'm sure what I'm feeling isn't unique. A sea change away from MS products?

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RE: I don't know about you....
by Jody on Mon 30th Oct 2006 01:01 UTC in reply to "I don't know about you...."
Jody Member since:
2005-06-30

"A sea change away from MS products?"

I don't think so. The $400 PC's being sold today support Vista and it won't be shipped to consumers 'till Jan or Feb of 07.

To most people "upgrade" means "buy new PC" anyway.

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RE[2]: I don't know about you....
by Doc Pain on Mon 30th Oct 2006 03:36 UTC in reply to "RE: I don't know about you...."
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"The $400 PC's being sold today support Vista and it won't be shipped to consumers 'till Jan or Feb of 07.

To most people "upgrade" means "buy new PC" anyway."


Therefore, "Vista" ready chips will be ompletely uninteresting for consumers right now. Situation may change in the first quarter of 2007.

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RE: I don't know about you....
by MamiyaOtaru on Mon 30th Oct 2006 01:31 UTC in reply to "I don't know about you...."
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

What the heck does AIGLX have to do with "get(ting) the job done with minimal effort"? Other than expose effects and zoom I just don't see it (never mind that all that is possible without AIGLX, with the new nVidia drivers for instance).

More on topic: I don't get this announcement. I saw no mention of DirectX 10 (did I miss it?), so what's the point? Current graphics cards work just fine with Vista, they lack only DirectX 10. If ATI's new cards don't have that, WTH is this announcement for? I mean, 80nm process is nice and all, but really has nothing to do with Vista..

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RE: I don't know about you....
by Gunderwo on Mon 30th Oct 2006 05:55 UTC in reply to "I don't know about you...."
Gunderwo Member since:
2006-01-03

"... but I'm an average Joe. I went through the Linux phase years ago, but then gave up when I needed to use something to get the job done with minimal effort - Windows. I am sill open to the option of Linux, but most likely once KDE 4 is out, and AIGLX is working well. "

What does you not using linux and pondering over upgrading have to do with this article. Nothing. Thank you for wasting my time with your useless opinion on another topic.

Greg

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RE[2]: I don't know about you....
by thegrifman on Mon 30th Oct 2006 14:26 UTC in reply to "RE: I don't know about you...."
thegrifman Member since:
2006-10-13

"What does you not using linux and pondering over upgrading have to do with this article. Nothing. Thank you for wasting my time with your useless opinion on another topic.

Greg"

Wow, are you always so venomous? You may have not felt his post was on-topic or appropriate, but I think you'll get over those missing 2 seconds of your life. Seems to me you just wasted more of your own time by even replying to him.

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GNU/Linux variant ?
by Moulinneuf on Mon 30th Oct 2006 03:09 UTC
Moulinneuf
Member since:
2005-07-06

"ATI has since developed robust and performant drivers that highlight the capabilities of our new operating system"

Will they be able to make there GNU/Linux variant just as good ?

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RE: GNU/Linux variant ?
by jasutton on Mon 30th Oct 2006 03:55 UTC in reply to "GNU/Linux variant ?"
jasutton Member since:
2006-03-28

ATI's Linux drivers have never been as good as their Windows counterparts. What would you expect that to change now?

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RE: GNU/Linux variant ?
by smitty on Mon 30th Oct 2006 04:03 UTC in reply to "GNU/Linux variant ?"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

Will they be able to make there GNU/Linux variant just as good ?

I'm sure they could if they really wanted too, but they won't.

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Who gives...
by flywheel on Tue 31st Oct 2006 20:06 UTC
flywheel
Member since:
2005-12-28

Well actually Vista almost the only OS I really don't care about.
What I want is full support for operating systems like GNU/Linux, eComstation, Haiku/ZetaOS, FreeBSD/PCBSD,.....

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