Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 31st Oct 2006 23:44 UTC
Fedora Core "During tests, Fedora Core 6 impressed eWEEK Labs with the progress it has made toward making Security - Enhanced Linux - and the dramatically improved security protections that SELinux helps afford - more palatable. We also liked the look of Fedora Core's new graphical and command-line tools for managing Xen virtual machines, although, as with every Xen product we've yet tested, plenty of rough spots remain."
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Will Redhat Certifications
by stephanem on Wed 1st Nov 2006 00:30 UTC
stephanem
Member since:
2006-01-11

When something is redhat Certified, if its open source shouldn't I be able to take that component and plug it anywhere?. Or does Redhat add some secret sauce to make things proprietary and try to lock me into Redhat Linux?

If redhat has obtained certifications, then ALL linux distros using those components should be certified - it's like the FDA - if bayer's Ibuprofin is FDA approved the any company using the same Ibuprofin formula is automatically FDA approved.

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RE: Will Redhat Certifications
by Rahul on Wed 1st Nov 2006 01:10 UTC in reply to "Will Redhat Certifications"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

There is absolutely no secret proprietary sauce for certifications. Everything in Free software.

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RE: Will Redhat Certifications
by binarycrusader on Wed 1st Nov 2006 01:36 UTC in reply to "Will Redhat Certifications"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

If redhat has obtained certifications, then ALL linux distros using those components should be certified - it's like the FDA - if bayer's Ibuprofin is FDA approved the any company using the same Ibuprofin formula is automatically FDA approved.

Security certifications don't work that way, especially not the government EAL ones. Very specific configurations under very specific environmental circumstances is how EAL certifications are done. Once you change almost anything, you lose the certification.

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v Fedora 6
by TusharG on Wed 1st Nov 2006 01:02 UTC
It is a decent build
by buff on Wed 1st Nov 2006 01:49 UTC
buff
Member since:
2005-11-12

I installed FC6 from a DVD ISO I downloaded. It works well. My system is older so I installed the optional XFCE desktop. The startup time is less than FC5 and in general the desktop looks better. The login screen is rather snazy. I haven't had any problems with it at all. The suspend features works, all the office and multimedia applications are humming right along. I tried out some of the new Xen GUI apps and they are kind of cool but still have a way to go. Even though Ubuntu might be more popular now than Fedora who really cares about popularity. If it works for you then use it. Linux is great for choice.

Edited 2006-11-01 02:07

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That word again...
by ronaldst on Wed 1st Nov 2006 02:40 UTC
ronaldst
Member since:
2005-06-29

"Innovation"

I keep reading that word yet don't see much innovation being done. Red Hat solidified their security. Bolted Xen into their product. More work done on their packager. I must have missed something...

Google said the same thing this (or last) week. They're going to "increase the scale of innovation." Then the next article was about Google buying up their competitors. Their bought competitors didn't have anything worth calling an innovation either.

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RE: That word again...
by Mathman on Wed 1st Nov 2006 06:51 UTC in reply to "That word again..."
Mathman Member since:
2005-07-08

Well sure, I suppose you could argue that. Red Hat by itself doesn't inovate as much as the free software world as a whole. But then looking at the free software world as a whole there are a whole lot of exciting things going on right now. As in Xen, Compiz, KDE 4, ext4, reiser 4, etc, etc. There's cool new stuff always on the horizon. And no matter how small, Red Hat is definitely a part of all of that.

But even if you take Fedora alone, Red Hat is doing a lot of nice things for it. Ext3 and nfs performance enhancements are always welcome. Selinux rocks. GCC improvements are real nice. And I think the new Fedora artwork they've come up with is darn sweet. And it will be even sweeter when they get their new icons integrated.

Also, I have no idea what it even does as of yet, but this new lvm2 cluster app sounds fun. Oh and I suppose it happened a couple releases ago, but Red Hat threw all their RHEL clustering junk into Fedora. That stuff I have played with a bit. It's a beautiful thing. At any rate it was pretty exciting getting all the wasted space sitting their on my systems disks in the compute nodes in my Rocks cluster actually doing something.

Anyhow, Fedora floats my boat these days. Feel free to go with whatever you like though.

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RE: That word again...
by NxStY on Wed 1st Nov 2006 10:27 UTC in reply to "That word again..."
NxStY Member since:
2005-11-12

Why donīt you try the distribution first before complaining? Fedora 6 is quite impressive. Here are some examples:

It's the first distribution thatīs built with gnu.hash for better performance. Redhat did a lot of work to make this happend.

It's the first x86_64 distribution that ships with a native 64 bit OpenOffice so you donīt have to install tons of 32 bit compatibility libraries.

It contains a modified xserver that almost completely autoconfigures itself. So there is no need for a lengthy xorg.conf anymore. No other distribution has anything like that.

It has the new aiglx framework. Sure, mandriva had it too, but this was innovation done by redhat.

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RE: That word again...
by sbergman27 on Wed 1st Nov 2006 16:40 UTC in reply to "That word again..."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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"Innovation"

I keep reading that word yet don't see much innovation being done.
"""

I know we just finished a discussion about how the meanings of words change over time and that it is simply a fact of life that they do. But this is one change of meaning that particularly annoys me.

When I was growing up, innovation meant AG Bell inventing the telephone and things of that magnitude.

Nowadays, every time Steve Balmer passes gas, it's an "Innovation". Even worse, the policy has spread from Microsoft (one might say "Like a cancer") and most tech companies seem to engage in the practice. Even the open source communuty is now using what is really the most indulgent for of market-speak. Very disturbing.

I started to say that I would have prefered that it morphed its meaning into something vulgar... and then I realized that it had.

Edited 2006-11-01 16:40

Reply Score: 1

eh
by spikeb on Wed 1st Nov 2006 14:46 UTC
spikeb
Member since:
2006-01-18

I love fedora core, but their packages of some applications (serpentine is one) simply SUCK. serpentine doesn't work at all.

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x86_64 review
by stevenaaus on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 02:36 UTC
stevenaaus
Member since:
2006-05-30

Just installed the 64 bit version of fedora 6. It's
quite accomplished, with only a few little bugs which you'll find in every distro, being a 64 bit OS I expected more. Hardware detection on my cheap gigabyte socket 754 mobo has been fine,

Just compiled and installed Nvidia drivers (needed a hack though) and Mplayer. The box automatically updated itself correctly.

The only major hassle was with machine hibernation which left the box messed up. Other criticisms are: the software selection tool... It works, but clicking a check box to select some package must set off automatic dependancy checks, as it is very unresponsive,
and the /proc/cpuload seems high !? It's reporting very large numbers (.7 - 1.0) just running "mplayer -vo xv" and browsing the web.. while "top" only reports mplayer as using 15% cpu, with daylight second.

My 2 cents.

Kudos to Redhat and Fedora.

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Faster
by mjones on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 17:34 UTC
mjones
Member since:
2006-06-14

I have been running Fedora Core 6 since the day it was released. Totally stable and it seems faster (than other Fedoras).

Reply Score: 1