Many BeOS enthusiasts were eagerly awaiting the results from the contest Haiku held in order to determine its icon set. People unfamiliar with BeOS won't understand what the fuss is all about; well, BeOS's isometric icon set was one of the defining elements of the look of BeOS. I am happy to report that the icon set for Haiku is almost exactly identical to the svg version of the original BeOS icon set (used in Zeta, among others). On a slightly related note, there's news about Vista's icons as well.
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Yep, the original BeOS icons were really nice. They were fresh, clean and simple. Also, they were very consistant with each other, which is important. Compare to Windows XP where some icons are from one perspective, and others are from another perspective. Messy.
I'm glad that 'BeOS style' icons were chosen for Haiku, but IMO, I disagree with Thom when he says that "the icon set for Haiku is almost exactly identical to the svg version of the original BeOS icon set". They are definately not! Look closer! They are similar, but not exact! They are more cartoony, and 'freestyle' compared to the originals. Compare Stippi, the winner, to the Zumi icons, which are actually more similar to the original BeOS icons.
Well done to Stippi anyway. You put in the effort. But one thing to note is that I think in the future, when people want to create icons for their own applications that match the system icons, it will be more difficult to emulate the slightly 'cartoony' look of Stippi than to emulate (orignal BeOS style, straight isometric) look of Zumi.
Edited 2006-11-02 00:25
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I'm not completely a fan of the Haiku set - they're a little plain for my taste - but I have a feeling that while the Vista icons have a bit more flash now, in six months time the Haiku ones would be second nature, whereas I still wouldn't have figured out which bunch of flowers was which in Vista.
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Is it normal that this window decoration is cut?
http://bug-no.petterhj.net/iconcontest/visualizer/?set=stippi&size=...
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Is it normal that this window decoration is cut?
It renders pretty well in Firefox on Windows here - keep in mind it's just a bunch of transparent PNGs overlaid on each other using regular HTML - so it may not render perfectly in all browsers.
Unless you were talking about something else.
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It is approx. 35-36% of the window width, and in this case it is supposed to be no wider.
Of course, if the title is longer, the window decoration will be wider.
Try running one of haiku-images in the VMWare Player. You can see more about that at this location: http://haiku-os.org/downloads
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You are obviously not familiar with the infamous BeOS "yellow tabs":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS
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Thanks, I just had a look at it: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/18/Beos.png
An didn't like the "tabs". They look too weird and unfamiliar to me.
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An didn't like the "tabs". They look too weird and unfamiliar to me.
I could say the same about OSX, or nearly any Linux desktop...
In the case of BeOS, they're actually useful - you can shift-drag the tab across the top of the window allowing you to stack windows and see the title bar for each of them side-by-side for easy-click-switching between them.
update: screenshot here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndrinkwater/152400976/
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Judging from the icons themselves, they're intended to be used for (from left to right, top first):
-a calculator program (with lots of buttons)
-either a presentation program (it's one of those tear-off poster blocks) or a calendar (if it's meant to look like a tear-off calendar)
-something to categorise either your DVDs or books
-email program!
-something to categorise your CDs (media player?)
-movie viewer
-image viewer (since it's a frame..I guess)
Checking the larger versions...oh well almost right. Two wrong and two half wrong.
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whats with all the flowers?
flowers?
and why do we want icons that are so massive?
You're looking at the 64x64 icons - the default will actually be 32x32 (like BeOS and most other OSes) - keep in mind that the icons will support SVG, so ANY size will scale and look perfect (no jaggies).
The icon contest requirement was that 64x64 be available to see how they scale up - and how much detail will be available for anyone wishing to scale up (like those running insanely high resolutions)
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize there was a Vista-related link at the bottom of the article - wow - that's misplaced.
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It looks like osnews.com may have jumped on the gun...
http://haiku-os.org/node/278
Stippi is the winner of the Best Rated Icon Set Award, but <quote>chances are that the final icon set to be used as the default in Haiku will also see an influence from the other submitted icon sets as well</quote>.
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This was the plan from the beginning and I believe Thom was aware of it:
http://haiku-os.org/node/120
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With the "zOMg! those fancy midget title bars look ugly". I can't count how many flamewars those windows decorators have started, mostly because non BeOS users kindly go to a BeOS/Zeta/Haiku forum or, like in this case, article just to say "This sucks! Those windows decorators are stupid!". Just to get a warm response from BeOS fans, obviously.
Most people have never actually tried BeOS, but that doesn't matter! Let's talk crap just because is fun! "That's ugly", well, thats pretty subjective, and your Window Blinds theme with a small goldfish swimming around your titlebar not only looks ugly (IMO), but it's also completely useless. And we can say the same for some X window managers out there.
So, people, we always end up at the same point: Don't like it? Don't use it, that's all.
Now, back on topic, and as bogomipz pointed out, here's some clarification:
Although the final icon set for Haiku will be the result of a collaborative effort through the rating of the submitted artwork and an open discussion in the Haiku mailing list, the contest will have a "Best Rated Entry", which will be awarded a special recognition certificate from the Haiku project.
So, even having Stippi as "Best Rated iconset", that doesn't mean taht it's going to be the official iconset for R1 (the first Haiku release).
PS: and please, those are leaves, not flowers!
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