Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Dec 2006 18:51 UTC, submitted by abdavidson
Opera Software Opera 9.10 has been released with the big new thing being protection against phishing. "Opera Software today introduced real-time Fraud Protection in its Web browser. Fraud Protection includes technology from GeoTrust and PhishTank, a collaborative clearing house for data and information about phishing on the Internet. Fraud Protection is available in Opera 9.1, the newest version of Opera's Web browser."
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FreeBSD Opera
by vermaden on Mon 18th Dec 2006 19:45 UTC
vermaden
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2006-11-18

One of the greatest features of new Opera is that it can use Linux plugins on navively on FreeBSD with native version of Opera, without need for use Linux emulation.

For example Linux flash 9 plugin or Acrobat plugin works without any emulation.

Great work!

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RE: FreeBSD Opera
by Charles A Landemaine on Mon 18th Dec 2006 20:39 UTC in reply to "FreeBSD Opera"
Charles A Landemaine Member since:
2005-11-11

Yes! And since yesterday, PC-BSD has a prepatched version of Opera 9.10 that runs Flash perfectly: http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?t=6704 ;)

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Just gave it a shot
by ormandj on Mon 18th Dec 2006 20:07 UTC
ormandj
Member since:
2005-10-09

Just downloaded it and tried it out, works great. Typical Opera quality release. There are some complaints of "bugginess" in the forums, but I've yet to encounter any.

The new anti-phishing stuff will hopefully pan out and keep grandmas safe all over the world. The *only* problem I see - the people most likely to get phished are probably the last people on earth who would run Opera, or even Firefox for that matter. ;)

Keep up the great work, Opera team! Oh yeah, and add SOCKS proxy support, it's sucking that I can't use Opera 99% of the time because I can't safely browse over wireless connections when traveling. ;)

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Flash 9
by Dr_J on Mon 18th Dec 2006 20:12 UTC
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2005-07-06

This is a bit off topic, but does audio work at all with Flash 9? ALSA support on FreeBSD is not outstanding.

Also, have you checked the MPlayer plugin?

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RE: Flash 9
by Oliver on Mon 18th Dec 2006 20:33 UTC in reply to "Flash 9"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

Yes it works, okay it's beta but you can use it.

http://groups.google.de/group/mailing.freebsd.ports/browse_thread/t...

People can do it without sourcecode, something Adobe isn't able to do with sourcecode - LOL.

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RE: Flash 9
by vermaden on Mon 18th Dec 2006 21:16 UTC in reply to "Flash 9"
vermaden Member since:
2006-11-18

ALSA support on FreeBSD is not outstanding.

ALSA?! on FreeBSD?! BUAHAHAHA ;)
good one ;)

Why we EVEN would want ALSA on FreeBSD?

We have virtual OSS channels mixing in kernel already, You can set them to 256, 1024, or even 1024*256, they work great even with old ISA card with one physical channel You can have many many channels to hear output of many audio/video sources, there are NONE problems with audio apps on FreeBSD, contrariwise to Linux problems with OSS apps [only 1 channel], with sound daemons, with wrappers for sound daemons, with OSS ALSA emulation, and dmix is not perfect.

On FreeBSD You can use as many sound daemons + as many OSS apps as YOU WANT.

Linux is years behind that.

Do You still want ALSA on FreeBSD? ;)

Edited 2006-12-18 21:18

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RE[2]: Flash 9
by Dr_J on Mon 18th Dec 2006 21:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Flash 9"
Dr_J Member since:
2005-07-06

>Why we EVEN would want ALSA on FreeBSD?

Because that is what Flash 9 uses for audio, and there are no alternatives offered.

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RE[3]: Flash 9
by smitty on Mon 18th Dec 2006 21:37 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Flash 9"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

It seems I read that Adobe was creating an opensource plugin type interface to Flash 9 and that you could use that to get it to use OSS instead of ALSA.

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RE[4]: Flash 9
by Dr_J on Mon 18th Dec 2006 21:44 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Flash 9"
Dr_J Member since:
2005-07-06

That's news to me. If that is so, then that is very, very good news. Then Flash 9 should work properly on BSD, and if native Opera has the ability to use native Linux plug-ins, that too is a big deal. I have tired of using a combination of native Epiphany/Firefox/linuxpluginwrapper/etc. and Linux Opera/plug-ins to get various web sites to render properly.

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RE[5]: Flash 9
by smitty on Mon 18th Dec 2006 23:15 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Flash 9"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

Yep, here's where I found it. It sounds like it is all very experimental, but I bet it will at least support OSS since there still seems to be quite a bit of demand for it.

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:Additional_Interf...

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RE[3]: Flash 9
by vermaden on Mon 18th Dec 2006 22:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Flash 9"
vermaden Member since:
2006-11-18

Because that is what Flash 9 uses for audio, and there are no alternatives offered.

Why Macromedia/Adobe always has to suck :/

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Now if only
by blitze on Mon 18th Dec 2006 21:21 UTC
blitze
Member since:
2006-09-15

Opera would release a 64bit version then I would be using it on my Linux system in a heart beat.

And no, getting 32bit Opera to run without static libraries on Ubuntu 64 is a real PITA of which I swore myself off after doing a clean install of Feisty 64. The static version of Opera just sucks, especially with font display.

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Opera less dependencys
by whendrik on Mon 18th Dec 2006 22:04 UTC
whendrik
Member since:
2006-12-16

I like opera because it has less dependencies on my bsd.
feels more lightweigt than firefox

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Phishing
by sb56637 on Mon 18th Dec 2006 22:31 UTC
sb56637
Member since:
2006-05-11

I have built in phishing protection when I use lynx browser- I have a brain.

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I love Opera but I still can't use it..
by ubit on Tue 19th Dec 2006 00:14 UTC
ubit
Member since:
2006-09-08

I love Opera but I still can't use it.. until it gets a feature like Google Browser Sync for Firefox. I've tried Osync, but it's not as integrated as GBS..

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Opera #1
by CVDpr on Tue 19th Dec 2006 00:48 UTC
CVDpr
Member since:
2005-10-17

Opera its the best browser out there, "but i dont want to pay for it or use the free one with ads cuz there is the free firefox there"...

Now Opera its free/with-out ads so whats the excuse now?

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RE: Opera #1
by arielb on Tue 19th Dec 2006 02:08 UTC in reply to "Opera #1"
arielb Member since:
2006-11-15

Opera has ads unlike firefox with adblock+

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RE[2]: Opera #1
by jheino on Tue 19th Dec 2006 02:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera #1"
jheino Member since:
2006-12-19

Bzzt, wrong. Sites have ads. Opera 9 has built-in content filtering.

http://operawiki.info/OperaAdblock

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RE[2]: Opera #1
by foob on Tue 19th Dec 2006 16:54 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera #1"
foob Member since:
2006-12-19

Adblock List (007B): urlfilter.ini (For Opera)
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http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/
this will block all common ads just like Adblock for Firefox.

Opera also has Quick Preferences (Tools > Quick Preferences, or simply F12), which allow you to disable plug-ins (which would disable ALL plug-insn like auto-loading videos, flash, etc) on-the-fly. Then enabling them again when you want them. Integrated on-the-fly image toggling, too.

Simple, effective.

No unnecessary distractions when you want them gone. Turn them back on when you want them.

Opera actually has non-buggy printing that doesn't cut off half of what you intend to print - unlike Firefox. I found out the hard way after printing directions from http://www.whereis.com where most of the time the complete directions wouldn't be printed. Plenty of other sites have Firefox printing problems, too. Printing in Firefox is simply a very big weakness of the browser.

Opera also passes Acid2
http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/

...and is the only modern browser that can run acceptably alongside IE on Windows 98 and older machines - in other words, it's coded exceedingly well.

My hat goes off to Opera for creating a fantastic responsive browser that makes the web enjoyable (Windows version, at least...not sure about others).

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RE: Opera #1
by smitty on Tue 19th Dec 2006 03:11 UTC in reply to "Opera #1"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

Now Opera its free/with-out ads so whats the excuse now?

First, let me say I think Opera is a fine browser and a good choice. However, let me tell you why I don't use it.

1: Most importantly, I'm happy with Firefox and I don't see any reason to change. Don't fix it if it isn't broken.

2: I've tried Opera before, and it simply feels strange. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but there is definitely something different about using it compared to Firefox. I'm sure that if I used it for a month or two it would seem fine and Firefox would probably be the one that seemed different, but (see #1) I'd really rather not go through this period of adjustment if I don't need to.

3: Least importantly, I usually try to support open source projects if they are at an even level with more proprietary ones. I consider Opera to be a "good" closed source product since it is based on standards and isn't muscling any competition out of the picture, but I still prefer something open source.

To each his own.

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Phishing
by Anonymous Coward on Tue 19th Dec 2006 02:00 UTC
Anonymous Coward
Member since:
2005-07-06

To the Tune of The other day I saw a bear.

I got Phished
The other day
I told them I
Was Marvin Gay
They said your not
I said I am
and then they sent
me some more SPAM
I deleted it
that that gooey shit
and with some more
I got hit
I unsubscribed
it was a lie
now for that one
I got forty-five
I guess I should not have stayed
I should have simply went away

I know... off topic, but sometimes I feel poetic.

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Those Norwegians ...
by Arne J. on Tue 19th Dec 2006 04:37 UTC
Arne J.
Member since:
2006-12-09

... Have done it again. Congrats. Tried to talk to their management. They're all gone phishing.

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Old news
by nana on Tue 19th Dec 2006 07:58 UTC
nana
Member since:
2006-03-10

Seriously, Opera 6(!) was the first browser with anti-phishing thechnology, so they didn't add this feature - they improved it. Opera added this functionality years before people understood it was a problem, so everybody thinks that they don't have it just because it was not introduced in the most recent release like the other browsers supporting it. They just called it something else.

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RE: Old news
by abdavidson on Tue 19th Dec 2006 08:13 UTC in reply to "Old news"
abdavidson Member since:
2005-07-06

Pretty much yeah. They've had the certificate checking for quite some time and really if you're doing financial transactions you're mad not to do it ON a secure site so that always gave some measure of security.

The problem was it relied on the user having some understanding that https is good and http is bad for financial stuff.

Now its more explicit. Great big warning screen with red on it saying "this is bad".

It's about helping the less sophisticated or more casual user.

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Dreadstar
Member since:
2006-01-21

I've been waiting for another Opera thread to ask WHY DOESN'T IT WORK ANYMORE??! Or more specifically why does Firefox work (until it hangs) on every site that Opera doesn't work on?!! Opera has a *GLARING* problem where you click a button and NOTHING HAPPENS. And that's not all the time, it is MADDENLY intermittent, but once it "sets in" it STAYS that way until you close and restart. Here are some sites it does NOT work on, or else it will SEEM to work until the last minute: Lycos mail, Excite mail, Myway mail, and various online shopping carts. There is nothing as maddening as uploading a file attachment or placing an online order and only the FINAL button to send or place the order remains, and suddenly it cannot 'see' the button! Places like Lycos, buttons will even vanish as soon as the cursor hovers over them. It is also far less responsive than much older versions, since I'm on a dial-up I really miss the way you could click a link, and then while the modem communicates you could still scroll down on the page you were on, click other links to open in the background, etc, but none of those work anymore. Then if you stop loading and back-up so you can open those links in the background instead of leaving the page, it intermittently balks at displaying the page you backed up to, requiring you to open another tab and start over. This is unnacceptable for the browser that USED TO BE synonymous with superiority, and I still say they've been brought down from the inside, probably starting with Opera 7

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Gooberslot Member since:
2006-08-02

Is this only the new version 9.1 or all newer versions? I know Opera is a lot slower than it used to be but I've never experienced that button problem you described.

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v Tim Holwerdi
by Tim Holwerdi on Tue 19th Dec 2006 12:03 UTC
pity no metalink support
by KLU9 on Tue 19th Dec 2006 14:05 UTC
KLU9
Member since:
2006-12-06

wish they'd added support for metalinks...
http://www.metalinker.org/

Changelog (for Windows)
http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/910/index.dml

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the button thing
by Dreadstar on Wed 20th Dec 2006 05:30 UTC
Dreadstar
Member since:
2006-01-21

The first couple of times the button issue was eventually fixed, but it has been a problem since 8.50

I've only had 9.01 since yesterday but so far the clicking-while-loading stuff still doesn't work, the other stuff I can't tell yet, maybe they fixed it. I see it still backs up 100 times slower than older versions too.

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