Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Dec 2006 22:33 UTC
Mac OS X Apple's Mac OS X has been successfully used to boot up an Asus R2H ultra-mobile PC, which runs the operating system slowly but surely. To minimise claims that all the still photography is faked, the start-up process has been captured on video.
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Good shooting
by Sphinx on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:18 UTC
Sphinx
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2005-07-09

Very interesting experiment, kudos.

Linux
by sb56637 on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:25 UTC
sb56637
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2006-05-11

I wonder if Linux could work on that device too. Including the stylus input and WiFI and power management stuff.

RE: Linux
by orestes on Wed 20th Dec 2006 01:04 UTC in reply to "Linux"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

Almost certainly, given a sufficiently motivated user.

RE: Linux
by Xaero_Vincent on Wed 20th Dec 2006 18:40 UTC in reply to "Linux"
Xaero_Vincent Member since:
2006-08-18

If MacOS X can run on an unsupported mobile PC, Linux certainly could as well; linux is meant to run on a far broader number of systems. Mac OS X on any system beyond Macintosh is newsworthy because drivers for white box systems are so scarce.

RE[2]: Linux
by arielb on Wed 20th Dec 2006 19:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Linux"
arielb Member since:
2006-11-15

yes of course...that was kinda my point. linux and bsd can run on anything because with open source, someone will figure a way

Now here's the challenge: I have this xbox 360...

Remote
by stooovie on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:31 UTC
stooovie
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2006-01-25

Exactly WHAT receives signal from Apple Remote?

RE: Remote
by miscz on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:45 UTC in reply to "Remote"
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

The first video is a modded Mac Mini so probably an original Apple remote. You can run Front Row without it though, there's a hacked driver that makes mouse function as a remote.

S...l...o...w...
by PowerMacX on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:34 UTC
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2005-11-06

OMG that's slow! There are obviously lots of compatibility issues going on, since the processor alone can be the cause (Tiger runs great on my old 466MHz PowerMac G4). Graphic drivers?

Nice hack though - Makes me wonder if Apple is ever going to release a subnotebook to take place of the old 12" iBook/PowerBook.

edit: so, it's not the RAM, at the end of the video it shows 768MB... that leaves the graphic drivers as the most likely suspect

Edited 2006-12-19 23:38

RE: S...l...o...w...
by miscz on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:50 UTC in reply to "S...l...o...w..."
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

It's both graphics and CPU. OSX can run without Quartz Extreme but everything is drawn in software in such case. Celeron M 900 Mhz is just too slow. I've run OSX without video acceleration on a notebook with Celeron M 1.6 Ghz and unless you want to watch video or do some 3D stuff it's good enough.

RE[2]: S...l...o...w...
by evangs on Wed 20th Dec 2006 08:43 UTC in reply to "RE: S...l...o...w..."
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

That would also mean Exposé, which is quite a big part of using the Mac will be unusable. As would Dashboard, I suspect.

RE[2]: S...l...o...w...
by PowerMacX on Wed 20th Dec 2006 14:12 UTC in reply to "RE: S...l...o...w..."
PowerMacX Member since:
2005-11-06

"It's both graphics and CPU. OSX can run without Quartz Extreme but everything is drawn in software in such case."

You are right, but this is because of a *major* graphic driver issue, because even on machines that don't support Quartz Extreme, the OS X GUI is still pretty responsive: on my old 466MHz Power Mac G4, for instance. That machine has only an ATI Rage 128 graphics card, with just 16MB of VRAM, and it doesn't even support rectangle textures. Yet, OS X squeezes as much as it can from it, and the machine is an order of magnitude faster than the UMPC shown in the video, despite its 466MHz processor.

Actually, I used Tiger (thanks to XPostFacto) on an old 250MHz PowerBook G3 (upgraded to a 500MHz G3) with a Rage Pro card (4MB of VRAM) and it was slow, yet not *that* slow. And I don't think OS X was able to offload much (if any) graphic processing work to that unsupported card...

v Things the world does not need:
by deb2006 on Tue 19th Dec 2006 23:41 UTC
v RE: Things the world does not need:
by Tom K on Wed 20th Dec 2006 00:22 UTC in reply to "Things the world does not need:"
optimusg4 Member since:
2005-07-06

So what, you prefer Windows? Or the interface innovations of Linux?

Cass Member since:
2006-03-17

Its gotta be the interface of linux, well Gnome actually, i use OSX daily now but i still wish OSX was as usable as Gnome... Dont get me wrong Aqua is a nice GUI but Gnome just cant be beat ... Windows interface just dont even come into it, and i aint tried Vista yet but so far from what i have read it offers nothing that i would consider rushing out to try and that hasnt been done before it seems

Duffman Member since:
2005-11-23

Dont get me wrong Aqua is a nice GUI but Gnome just cant be beat ...

I agree, it's very difficult to make an uglier GUI. Gnome just can't be beat ...

fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

But there is WindowMaker/GNUstep, however it is not mature enough

Cass Member since:
2006-03-17

Yeah but its not all about looks though is it ... usability is a big factor

evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

I actually agree with you. While I don't mind how the OS X GUI looks, I think GNOME's default look is ... attractive. It's minimal, and doesn't distract you.

Maybe I need to get some professional help...

Sphinx Member since:
2005-07-09

Must be a support group somewhere, I found the default gnome desktop a bit spartan but pleasant to the eye and very usable.

Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Bread crumbs cannot be beat.

helf Member since:
2005-07-06

uh. um.. I'm not sure HOW to take this.

Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

3. trolling

Great Display but my hopes are dashed...
by RGCook on Wed 20th Dec 2006 03:25 UTC
RGCook
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2005-07-12

This is a great demonstration if for no other reason than it reinforces how adaptable OS X may be made for multiple devices.

But I am still in woe mode upon hearing that MS is pulling VBA out of the next version of office for OS X. I believe this was a deliberate act to thwart defections from Vista to OS X. For most of what I do, VBA is a must. Without it (and AutoCAD for OS X), it just doesn't do me any good. drat

yakirz Member since:
2006-05-11

Why not just run Windows Office from Parallels?

evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

That means you'll need to buy a copy of Windows, Parallels, and MS Office. Not exactly cheap, but if you need it desperately, guess there is no other way.

RE[6]: Things the world does not need:
by fignew on Wed 20th Dec 2006 07:40 UTC
fignew
Member since:
2006-09-06

Notice how he didn't mention "good looks" anywhere you superficial Mac fanboy. (you seem to get eyecandy and usability confused).

Love the Mac, hate the fanboys.

Duffman Member since:
2005-11-23

I am free to hate GNOME if it doesn't fit to me.

Love Free Software, hate Linux zealots.

you know...
by arielb on Wed 20th Dec 2006 08:04 UTC
arielb
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2006-11-15

this isn't about macosx vs linux UI debate. One thing is for sure, while I can get linux to run *well* on my pc, I can't say the same for macosx.

I know...
by s_groening on Wed 20th Dec 2006 08:45 UTC in reply to "you know..."
s_groening Member since:
2005-12-13

"this isn't about macosx vs linux UI debate. One thing is for sure, while I can get linux to run *well* on my pc, I can't say the same for macosx."

And I couldn't get Windows XP to run on my PPC Mac no matter how badly I'd for some reason wanted to....

Neither way around I'd blame any of the two parties, Apple and Microsoft, since it's their right to make these decisions and if you really want it that bad, buy the appropriate hardware (these days this would be an Intel Mac) ...

So many people seem to blame other people's decisions for their own lack of opportunities, even though in this case it boils down to their own choice and their own decisions ...

RE[3]: S...l...o...w...
by helf on Wed 20th Dec 2006 15:45 UTC
helf
Member since:
2005-07-06

yeah. something odd is going on with that. I'm running OSX 10.4.7 on .y whitebox tower with an nvidia 6200... its using VESA 3.0 and its silky smooth.

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yakirz
Member since:
2006-05-11

I doubt Apple's going to give us a tablet Mac next month, but we can hope. I'd love a tablet the size of this Asus, instead of the regular tablet size.

OQO
by Verbatim on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 02:16 UTC
Verbatim
Member since:
2006-01-14

Model 01+ would make a find candidate for OSX.