Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 17:42 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
3D News, GL, DirectX "It has been one year to the day since XGI Technology had last released a Volari Linux display driver and about 14 months since we had first delivered word of XGI considering open-source 3D display drivers. Where do things now stand for XGI Technology? We will tell you all of the details today where things are for this Taiwan graphics company."
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Inaccurate
by mjg59 on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 18:18 UTC
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2005-10-17

XGI have submitted open source 3D drivers to X.org, as can be in the Freedesktop bugzilla. The fact that they're not shipped in a release yet is likely to be more related to the general issues associated with integrating large code drops from hardware vendors - ensuring that everything is properly licensed, integrates with the existing code well and so on. It certainly looks like XGI is showing willing.

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RE: Inaccurate
by halfmanhalfamazing on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 18:31 UTC in reply to "Inaccurate"
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2005-07-23

I wonder if Michael over at phoronix knows about this?

Assuming you're correct. Do you have more info?

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RE[2]: Inaccurate
by rayiner on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 18:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Inaccurate"
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2005-07-06
RE[3]: Inaccurate
by halfmanhalfamazing on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Inaccurate"
halfmanhalfamazing Member since:
2005-07-23

That's all non 3d stuff.

Maybe I'm misinterpretting this one....

"Non-3D programming guide"

Open the guides. They're from february. This is nothing new. Back in february is around the time when XGI released the 2D only source code.

As was stated in the article.

I want open sourced drivers just as much as anybody. But I'd like to see the proof first.

And your link goes to show that phoronix was right. Not the original poster's belief.

Edited 2007-01-02 19:32

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RE[4]: Inaccurate
by mjg59 on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 19:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Inaccurate"
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RE[5]: Inaccurate
by halfmanhalfamazing on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 19:49 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Inaccurate"
halfmanhalfamazing Member since:
2005-07-23

Will you read the titles of what it is you're posting!?

"Source code of 2D driver with patching license header"

There is no open source 3d volari/XGI driver.

The november release date of your link is rather irrelevant. It's based off of the original 2d-only release.

Now, I didn't download the code. But I highly doubt that the xorg guys mislabeled this. If it were containing 3d code, it would be titled 3d, or 3d/2d.

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RE[6]: Inaccurate
by Redeeman on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 19:58 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Inaccurate"
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2006-03-23

and did you read the comments? i was thinking this one specifically:

"(1). Update Source code of 2D driver with patching license header
(2). First time to release source code of 3D driver"

and this:
"Created an attachment (id=7870) [edit]
Source code of 3D driver"

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RE[6]: Inaccurate
by mjg59 on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 20:00 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Inaccurate"
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2005-10-17

------ Opened by Jong Lin on 2006-11-22 19:36 [reply] -------

(1). Update Source code of 2D driver with patching license header
(2). First time to release source code of 3D driver

The attachment that's been marked "obsolete" contains the full source code to DRI and DRM modules. At a guess, it's been flagged because the XGI guy doesn't really know how to drive Bugzilla - he's hardly alone in that respect.

There is no open source 3d volari/XGI driver.

Well, other than this here open source 3D volari/XGI driver.

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XGI
by Kelly Rush on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 21:41 UTC
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2005-06-30

We (SkyOS) tried working with XGI about two years ago. They wanted us to sign a bunch of NDA's and such to get access to their hardware specs, which we didn't feel like doing. They are a very small hardware company, we are a very small OS group, and we were hoping we could find some common ground quickly to help each other out, but that didn't materialize so, oh well.

Personally, I think they should just open everything up and go for broke. Their technology is years behind NVIDIA/AMD, and even Intel. The only risk they have is of more platforms supporting their hardware. I know for a fact that a lot of SkyOS users would have picked up a $40 video card from them if it meant they could get 3D hardware acceleration. Oh well. It is what it is. ;)

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RE: XGI
by bnolsen on Tue 2nd Jan 2007 23:11 UTC in reply to "XGI"
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2006-01-06

That's lame...a struggling video card vendor that decides it doesn't even care to carve out a niche market it could possibly guarantee itself.

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RE[2]: XGI
by Kelly Rush on Wed 3rd Jan 2007 06:15 UTC in reply to "RE: XGI"
Kelly Rush Member since:
2005-06-30

Yeah, well, like a lot of things with SkyOS, we do our best to work something out, and if it doesn't happen, we just move along. ;)

I was personally hoping they would open all of the necessary specs to us. This would have allowed Robert to create the underlying sub-system for hardware 3D support (both for composition on the desktop, as well as gaming for Quake 3 and such), and since NVIDIA and ATI had/have no interest in working with us at present, the XGI cards would have been the de-facto 3D hardware standard for SkyOS. However, their hardware is simply not that good, nor are the drivers for the hardware, and while we were willing to overlook this just to get some support in the system, it just wasn't worth it if we had to jump through a bunch of legal hoops to get there. For NVIDIA or ATI support, definitely, but not for XGI.

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XGI has an opportunity to..
by fithisux on Wed 3rd Jan 2007 08:41 UTC
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2006-01-22

help us all. I prefer Open Source 3D grxf from XGI instead of closed source 3D from NVIDIA/ATI. Go XGI, I bought last year a Volari V3 and was marvellous.

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Same old song
by B. Janssen on Wed 3rd Jan 2007 10:27 UTC
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2006-10-11

It's a shame. I don't care about 3D on the desktop, but i would buy a graphics card with full open source drivers just because. Yes, OGP*, i'm looking at you.

* http://wiki.duskglow.com/tiki-index.php?page=Open-Graphics

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Sis?
by aperh on Wed 3rd Jan 2007 18:23 UTC
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2007-01-03

Forgive my naivety, but does this mean anything for sis owners? Since sis and xgi cards are supported by the same 2d driver, might this mean that 3d support is going to become available for the sis340 series if xgi ever decides to opensource the driver?

Edited 2007-01-03 18:26

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