Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 10th Jan 2007 16:34 UTC
PC-BSD "Version 1.3.01 of PC-BSD has now been made available on the download page. This update addresses several recent issues with partitioning, as well as fixes issues with certain hardware and HAL support. Users already running version 1.3 may download an update to 1.3.01 via the 'Online Update' utility."
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Joy!
by stormloss on Wed 10th Jan 2007 16:56 UTC
stormloss
Member since:
2005-08-03

I can feel it's going to be a bumper PC-BSD year this year. ;)

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RE: Joy!
by pcbsdusr on Wed 10th Jan 2007 23:45 UTC in reply to "Joy!"
pcbsdusr Member since:
2006-01-23

PC-BSD is suffering a lot from kde/hal bugs in 1.3. Other than that, it is the best release so far. Not saying it's perfect. It's work in progress...



PS: I dont think a reboot is needed for this upgrade.

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Might not be a bad thing...
by nullpt on Wed 10th Jan 2007 17:12 UTC
nullpt
Member since:
2006-10-20

With this news, it only means that people are using it and reporting problems. With experimental/new features its quite normal that bugs are found.

And it doesn't bother most of the users at all.. you can do the upgrade online with a few clicks. Reboot and you're up to date.

Cheers

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RE: Might not be a bad thing...
by KenJackson on Wed 10th Jan 2007 18:00 UTC in reply to "Might not be a bad thing..."
KenJackson Member since:
2005-07-18

... with a few clicks. Reboot and ...

Do you need to reboot?

This seems to be a small security update with specific fixes. When Mandriva Linux puts out such updates, they release RPMs which I download and install and I'm done. I don't need to reboot unless I replaced the kernel. (Even after 5 years, I'm still impressed by that.)

I have much less experience with the BSDs and I haven't gotten PC-BSD to run yet. So do you need to reboot after an upgrade like this?

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RE[2]: Might not be a bad thing...
by DrillSgt on Wed 10th Jan 2007 18:07 UTC in reply to "RE: Might not be a bad thing..."
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"I have much less experience with the BSDs and I haven't gotten PC-BSD to run yet. So do you need to reboot after an upgrade like this?"

If the kernel is upgraded yes, same as Linux. I am not sure what the patches were, but an increment like that normally indicates a new kernel, or rather an updated one.

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RE[2]: Might not be a bad thing...
by Doc Pain on Wed 10th Jan 2007 18:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Might not be a bad thing..."
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"So do you need to reboot after an upgrade like this?"

A reboot is only needed if you install a new kernel or a new world (install a world = install the base system; does not affect installed applications). Usually you install the world in SUM (single user mode).

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld...

But I'm sure there is a way you don't need a reboot if you find a hint to unload / reload the kernel and the modules and install the new world with the old world. :-)

Specific to PC-BSD, I think a reboot is needed if there are changes to the kernel. But I'm not that familiar with the content of the update so I can't tell exactly.

In most cases, updates do not require any reboot. Some need restarting a service or deamon, some require you to logout and login again, some are active as soon as they are installed.

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Extended
by flywheel on Wed 10th Jan 2007 17:30 UTC
flywheel
Member since:
2005-12-28

* Updated PCInstall code with fixes for extended partitions.

Does that mean that it supports handling of extended partitions, or that it just doesn't feck them up ?

Reply Score: 1

RealPlayer download fails
by nedvis on Wed 10th Jan 2007 17:51 UTC
nedvis
Member since:
2006-01-02

I usually do clean install ( on one of dosen spare 10 Gb test hard-disks) and did not have any problems with partitionig disk.
All my USB devices ( Western-Digital 80 Gb external HD,
bunch of pen-drives { PNY , Sandisk AR05 } and digital cameras ( Oregon Scientific and Sony) were all detected and properly mounted so no problem with HAL either.
The only thing I still have no answer is RealPlayer 10 Gold download.
Each time I try to install it I'm getting error that file's been corrupted or such. Yes I've installed Linux compatibility libraries but no luck. So I have to watch TV programs from Belgrade (Serbia) over my DSL connection on my older PSBSD 1.2 machine. That's the only thing I'm missing in PCBSD 1.3
Everithing else with my new PCBSD 1.3 installation is more than exciting experience.
PCBSD people really made an operating system package that's definitely easier to install and maintain than any Linux distro I've had may hands on so far.
I wish them finding better way of advertising their excellent work so more people can enjoy this hassle free OS.

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This was the only thing
by BSDrama on Wed 10th Jan 2007 18:03 UTC
BSDrama
Member since:
2006-11-27

holding me back from upgrading from 1.2.

PCBSD 1.3.1 here we go! ;)

Reply Score: 2

v bah
by spikeb on Wed 10th Jan 2007 18:17 UTC
RE: bah
by BSDrama on Wed 10th Jan 2007 20:16 UTC in reply to "bah"
BSDrama Member since:
2006-11-27

Getting a little tired of the people whining about GNOME.

You could always pkg-add -r -f GNOME2.

Or build your own *BSD distro yourself.

:)

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statistics
by antik on Wed 10th Jan 2007 19:36 UTC
antik
Member since:
2006-05-19

Anyone who may be interested in semi-accurate *BSD usage numbers please look at
http://bsdstats.org/

PC-BSD got bsdstats script option in installer starting from 1.3 release.

Don't be confused by FreeBSD low numbers compared to PC-BSD- those are registered hosts- I think unregistered would be 100x or even more.

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RE: statistics
by fsckit on Wed 10th Jan 2007 20:31 UTC in reply to "statistics"
fsckit Member since:
2006-09-24

It's a cool idea, but those numbers seem a bit suspect to me. There's no way DFly has as many users as Open and Net combined.

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RE[2]: statistics
by pcbsdusr on Wed 10th Jan 2007 23:51 UTC in reply to "RE: statistics"
pcbsdusr Member since:
2006-01-23

PC-BSD 1.3 ships with bsdstats enabled by default and an option to disable it.

In all of the other OS's BSDstats needs to be installed if the user wishes to.

That's why the numbers are strange. BSD stats could improve also IMHO...

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mh
by SK8T on Wed 10th Jan 2007 22:15 UTC
SK8T
Member since:
2006-06-01

I tried to install 1.3 on my pc, it didn't work. maybe this version

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re
by Oliver on Thu 11th Jan 2007 00:10 UTC
Oliver
Member since:
2006-07-15

Nice ;) great time for FreeBSD ;)

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RE:PC-BSD 1.3.01 Released
by TusharG on Thu 11th Jan 2007 03:05 UTC
TusharG
Member since:
2005-07-06

Everything is nice and cool for PC BSD, only thing that worries me is hope its not too late!
Lot of users who have moved from Windows to Linux now looks very difficult to move from Linux to PCBSD. Most of the Linux users appreciate the PCBSD but are not that keen to switch to PCBSD.

Reply Score: 2

v pc-bugs
by happycamper on Thu 11th Jan 2007 03:58 UTC
RE: pc-bugs
by nullpt on Thu 11th Jan 2007 10:39 UTC in reply to "pc-bugs"
nullpt Member since:
2006-10-20

Hello,

You have to understand the mean of "active development volunteer project". If you found any bug please report it so it can be fixed.

Maybe the problem would be detected if people also tested BETA and RC releases and not just the -RELEASES.

Altough the project aims to be user friendly and for casual PC users, it needs testing and the project system test team are us.

Stop complainting and start helping ;)

Cheers

Reply Score: 4

RE[2]: pc-bugs
by happycamper on Fri 12th Jan 2007 00:43 UTC in reply to "RE: pc-bugs"
happycamper Member since:
2006-01-01

/*You have to understand the mean of "active development volunteer project". If you found any bug please report it so it can be fixed.*?

I would of understand if the bug was found months later but not right after version 1.3 was realeasd, that to me shows somebody is doing a sloppy job at testing.



/*Stop complainting and start helping ;) */

I am helping i downloaded it didn't I, but unfortunately the quality control is lacking.



/*Altough the project aims to be user friendly and for casual PC users, it needs testing and the project system test team are us.*/

on their site says they also focus businesses. what if a business had insalled that crap and lost data because of the bug? that would probably have given bsd a bad name and the main bsd are not careless with thier work.

Edited 2007-01-12 00:51

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RE[3]: pc-bugs
by nullpt on Fri 12th Jan 2007 02:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: pc-bugs"
nullpt Member since:
2006-10-20

Most of the changelog for this version is about new features, experimental/recent software and minor issues that were not spoted before. This is reasonable for a project with one developer and a couple guys keeping up with the project.

By downloading and installing a -RELEASE you are also helping. Most of the found bugs come from users that downloaded a RELEASE, not a RC or BETA, which backs up my point of view.

What about if you installed windows, got some virus that wiped your disk? Or some malware that steals your credit card pin?

There is more risk to a OS that has years of developement and testing by thousands of well paid people.

I don't know if you remember FreeBSD 5.2, the most bloated releases ever, they needed a 5.2.1 and had hundres of people testing it. Critical bugs are oftenly missed, even by good professionals.

Cheers

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