Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2007 23:21 UTC
Windows "Microsoft recently unveiled a new web site called 'Windows Vista Test Drive', designed to allow business users, consumers, and the merely curious to find out what running Microsoft's latest operating system might be like, without actually having to install it."
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by Angel Blue01 on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 00:03 UTC
Angel Blue01
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2006-11-01

This is not news. Its been avaiable for weeks.

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Free users convinced ...
by youcha on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 00:07 UTC
youcha
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2006-02-05

... it works only on IE > 6.0 .

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RE: Free users convinced ...
by el3ktro on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 09:27 UTC in reply to "Free users convinced ..."
el3ktro Member since:
2006-01-10

Well, this site may have made me convienced of switching back to Windows, unfortunately I can't test-drive Vista using Firefox under Gentoo Linux, damn ;-)

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Not available from my location
by eivind on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 00:22 UTC
eivind
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2005-11-09

Bah. This silly web page had me install an ActiveX control, only to tell me *afterwards* that i am "outside the geography" for the test drive.

Well who cares, really.

Edited 2007-01-23 00:22

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RE: Not available from my location
by raver31 on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 10:12 UTC in reply to "Not available from my location"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

You should care....

You have just opened your IE up to every Tom, Dick and Harry

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eivind Member since:
2005-11-09

You have just opened your IE up to every Tom, Dick and Harry

I work with computers. People who work with computers don't actually _use_ IE for anything productive.

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Free Vista "Test Drive"
by tristan on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 01:16 UTC
tristan
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2006-02-01

I had a quick look, and I seem to have missed the link to let me download the vmware image referred to in the title. Could somebody post it for me? Ta.

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Bah.
by Wrawrat on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 01:42 UTC
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2005-06-30

I gave it a try on my XP machine since I never tried Vista and was curious to see how it looks like in action. So far, it has failed to start twice, showing me a "Preparing Windows Vista Test Drive" message with a full progress bar for more than an hour...

While I am not biased against MS-Windows, the first thing that came to my mind was: Buggy as ever. While I am fully aware that a Web test drive is no substitute from a real test installation, advertising something that doesn't work is certainly not the best way to generate positive feedback...

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RE: Bah.
by elektrik on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 20:44 UTC in reply to "Bah."
elektrik Member since:
2006-04-18

<sarcasm>I've been waiting for 10 minutes for the thing to finish loading-I hope the *real* O.S. doesn't take this long to boot</sarcasm>

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Test Drive
by Shadowmane on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 01:53 UTC
Shadowmane
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2006-06-16

Microsoft is marketing this test drive to people who only use Windows. Notice you have to have Internet Explorer 6. My operating system doesn't support Internet Explorer. Guess they won't get my business.

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Awesome
by Finchwizard on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 02:37 UTC
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2006-02-01

Sweet, so you I can't use it because I don't use IE or use Active X, plus are out of the geography range.

Seems as crappy as the real thing =)
So it really does give you a good feel of Vista!, Problems problems problems.

Hehe, I'm joking btw, hard to come across in text.

I don't really see the point of this honestly, isn't this just a webpage that you can interact with?
That really doesn't give you a good test of Vista, all it gives you is what Vista looks like, which you can find from Screenshots.

Reply Score: 4

Jawbreaker4Fs
Member since:
2006-05-11

As was said by shadowmane, this isn't helpful unless you're already running an operating system which supports IE6. I like to try and maintain a healthy, unbiased attitude toward operating systems. I currently run Ubuntu because I feel that it is currently the best option for me personally. I would be more than happy to switch to Windows Vista if I felt that it would provide a better alternative. This "test drive," however, presupposes that I am already running a Microsoft operating system (or possibly IE6 on a mac?), so I'm not really sure how this is meant to help people who are considering switching to Vista. I mean, let's face it, if you already are running Windows you're going to upgrade sooner or later. There aren't too many people still running Windows 98 anymore (NT is another story..), so I'm not sure what the legitimate purpose of this could be.

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raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

It is all part of the "denial of alternatives" attitude that Microsoft has had for years.
They do not want the general public to think of Linux/BSD/Solaris as an alternative to Windows, so, they deny their existence.

By making sure the demo can only be viewed by Windows users, it maintains the idea in Joe Publics head that the computer IS Windows......

Also, Microsoft need to target XP users, as that is where the majority of uptake of Vista will come from.

Can you honestly show me 1 Linux user that is even tempted to switch to Vista ?

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And so it was
by korpenkraxar on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 06:49 UTC
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Member since:
2005-09-10

that the hot new features of Vista could actually be implemented on a simple interactive web page?

On the bright side, maybe they should think about that twice and seriously go after Google? :p

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LiveCD?
by Darkelve on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 08:05 UTC
Darkelve
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2006-02-06

Why not use a LiveCD?

Wait... the OS is too big.

Ok then, a LiveDVD.

Oops, still too big!

Maybe Live-Blueray or Live-HDVD might work...

Reply Score: 3

RE: LiveCD?
by bolomkxxviii on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 16:36 UTC in reply to "LiveCD?"
bolomkxxviii Member since:
2006-05-19

Sure, a live HD-DVD would be fun. Just make sure you have 10 GB of RAM and a 4 GB flash drive in the USB port.

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RE: LiveCD?
by Karitku on Wed 24th Jan 2007 09:31 UTC in reply to "LiveCD?"
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

WTF has LiveCD doing fact that you can run it thru internet. You dont have to install anything or reboot your computer! Totally different than some crappy LiveCD.

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I'm sorry, but ...
by Rayz on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 08:54 UTC
Rayz
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2006-06-24

... what makes people think that this is a genuine Microsoft site?

Should you really be visiting websites like this with no evidence that they are the real thing?

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RE: I'm sorry, but ...
by raver31 on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 10:18 UTC in reply to "I'm sorry, but ..."
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

This is Joe Public you are talking about.
Of course they will visit, and of course they will download everything blindly....
Especially one that netcraft cannot locate, exsilioinc.com !


Look a few posts above about ActiveX


Ohhhhhh the fun of IT support ;)

Edited 2007-01-23 10:22

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RE[2]: I'm sorry, but ...
by Rayz on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 11:05 UTC in reply to "RE: I'm sorry, but ..."
Rayz Member since:
2006-06-24

Well that's just it.

I mean, the folk who contribute here, are supposed to be 'net savvy', but look at the number of them on this thread alone who fell for this!

No official notice from Microsoft.

The site is called 'windowsvistatestdrive' - do me a favour!

And a quick domain check would show that it isn't even registered to Microsoft!

Reply Score: 2

RE[3]: I'm sorry, but ...
by Soulbender on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 12:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm sorry, but ..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"And a quick domain check would show that it isn't even registered to Microsoft!"

Indeed, why would Microsoft register a domain via proxy for an official project? Doesn't really add up.
It is also noteworthy that the site isn't uusing SSL making it even harder to verify if it's an authentic MS site. If this actually IS an official MS site it's not very well handled and doesn't exactly instill a lot of confidence.

Exsilio Consulting does exist though:
http://www.bristolagency.com/

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RE[3]: I'm sorry, but ...
by Soulbender on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 13:12 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm sorry, but ..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"And a quick domain check would show that it isn't even registered to Microsoft!"

After some more cursory investigation it appears the vista live test is hosted on the same machine as exsilio's website. Still pretty sloppy for a MS project though but maybe it's not actually official yet and arch has beaten the official launch.
I can't help but also notice that exsilio's admins are some of those misguided souls that wrongly think that blocking ping and traceroute serves some kind of purpose.

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RE[4]: I'm sorry, but ...
by B. Janssen on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 18:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: I'm sorry, but ..."
B. Janssen Member since:
2006-10-11

Soulbender: I can't help but also notice that exsilio's admins are some of those misguided souls that wrongly think that blocking ping and traceroute serves some kind of purpose.

Have you never heard of the dreaded ping attack? That's when a ping with a red headband and a bare chest infiltrates your system, kills the scheduler and frees the POWs from the quarantine folder. Traceroute is even worse, it uses blue light!

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if they want people to try
by Redeeman on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 11:15 UTC
Redeeman
Member since:
2006-03-23

perhaps they shouldnt disallow people to login and actually try it.

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doesn't work
by Mellin on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 12:38 UTC
Mellin
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2005-07-06

it doesn't work for swedish customers

Edited 2007-01-23 12:40

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No thanks
by walterbyrd on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 15:52 UTC
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Member since:
2005-12-31

W2K works just fine. Does everything I need to do. W2k runs all of my apps and drivers. W2K is fast, stable, and requires no hardware upgrade.

Give me something *worthwhile* and I might consider upgrading. I won't upgrade just to put my money in msft's bank account.

Reply Score: 1

Interesting
by linuxh8r on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 17:52 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-09

It looks like a VM is generated on the fly for you.

A quick look at the VM indicates:

* I'm logged in as Admin
* There are other user accounts: Melissa, Toby and Abby.

This could be a hack-and-a-half if someone wanted to have fun!

I love this! The UI rocks!

Reply Score: 2

This is your computer on dope...
by Sphinx on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 17:55 UTC
Sphinx
Member since:
2005-07-09

That first bag is always free, don't talk to strange web sites and stay in school kids.

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Dumb and dumber
by cmost on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 18:10 UTC
cmost
Member since:
2006-07-16

Hmmm, I have to have IE6 or better...I have to enable active X and install a plugin... In other words, I have to already be running a Windows operating system to try this out. I find it silly that Microsoft presupposes that users trying this site area already running Windows. If they wanted to maximize the impact of this site, they would have paid close attention to users NOT running Windows. No thanks...I'll be sticking with Linux.

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Need Windows to see how good Windows are?
by vasper on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 18:35 UTC
vasper
Member since:
2005-07-22

Thanks Microsoft, but I think I 'll stick to my Suse 10.1 Professional Linux system.

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Rayz Member since:
2006-06-24

It has nothing to do with MS ....

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Smells fishy...
by DrillSgt on Wed 24th Jan 2007 04:03 UTC
DrillSgt
Member since:
2005-12-02

So, the domain itself is owned by domainsbyproxy.com out of Scottsdale Arizona. It is hosted on a server with an IP address owned by hosting.com, and is a ptr to ngci.net. Besides all of these are registered through godaddy.com.

Yep, smells pretty nasty to me.

Reply Score: 3