Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Feb 2007 18:55 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Fedora Core "Fedora 7 Test 1 has been released today. For this particular release, we only did a Desktop spin of the package collection. We are still fine tuning targetted spins of the collection as part of the merger of Core and Extras. We also produced a LiveCD that has the ability to install to your harddrive."
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Interesting.
by orestes on Thu 1st Feb 2007 20:09 UTC
orestes
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2005-07-06

Looks like the folks asking for a slimmer install set are finally going to get their wish.

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anyweb
Member since:
2005-07-06

kudos to the Fedora development team and contributors for their excellent work, I for one can't wait to try out Fedora 7

/me starts downloading.

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h3rman
Member since:
2006-08-09

... and for those claiming that Fedora's been copying Ubuntu again: Mepis did that first. ;)

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randy7376 Member since:
2005-08-08

"... and for those claiming that Fedora's been copying Ubuntu again: Mepis did that first. ;) "

Actually, Demolinux did it first, IIRC. Web page says 10 Sept 1999.

http://www.demolinux.org/

Looks like it hasn't been updated since 2002, though.

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h3rman Member since:
2006-08-09

>>"... and for those claiming that Fedora's been copying Ubuntu again: Mepis did that first. ;) "

>Actually, Demolinux did it first, IIRC. Web page says 10 Sept 1999.

http://www.demolinux.org/

Looks like it hasn't been updated since 2002, though.


But where does it say that this live disk was installable (maybe I missed it)? I was referring to installable live disks.

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jbuchman Member since:
2005-07-06

It's under the Available Versions, Version 3 submenu.

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h3rman Member since:
2006-08-09

Now I see, you're right, it's installable.
A bit limited, a swap file, a boot floppy needed, I guess some decompressing will be needed when booting, but it would be unfair to compare this to 2007 live cds. Might be interesting to compare this method to the way DSL installs itself to hard disks these days.

@Don T. Bothers, I agree that live cds are not ideal for those that want to install the disk anyway. On the other hand, for a lot of people it's very convenient to see
- if what's inside is worth upgrading in the first place;
- if all drivers needed are there, and the network is propery configured.
This gives a lot of people a good feeling about the particular OS they're running live for a while. Which is, in itself, a good thing.
Obviously, for installing a server, or if you already know that you're going to install the OS in any case, such live cds are a waste of time.

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Don T. Bothers Member since:
2006-03-15

Aaarrggg, I hate installable live-disks. Why not just stream line the installation process to take 10-15 minutes like Debian and FreeBSD manage to do? It takes 10-15 minutes to generally boot up live-disks. When using Ubuntu, I personally always download the alternate text installer.

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So soon?
by milatchi on Thu 1st Feb 2007 22:12 UTC
milatchi
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2005-08-29

Wow already, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago that FC6 came out.

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RE: So soon?
by elzurawka on Thu 1st Feb 2007 22:36 UTC in reply to "So soon?"
elzurawka Member since:
2005-07-08

That is the beauty of a 6 month release cycle

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RE: So soon?
by wibbit on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 00:34 UTC in reply to "So soon?"
wibbit Member since:
2006-03-22

Wow already, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago that FC6 came out.

The time between Test1 and final release is always dissapointingly long (in a nice way) ;)

Doug

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Fast boot up
by kap1 on Thu 1st Feb 2007 23:13 UTC
kap1
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2006-05-12

ah can't wait for this to go final, this version is suppose to have the really fast boot up time.

anyone tried it and know if its already been implemented?

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Downloading!
by avivahl on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 00:34 UTC
avivahl
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2005-07-06

Thanks for the news... downloading right now...

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dennis1234
Member since:
2007-02-02

I downloaded the live-CD, and it did not work on either of my two computers. Other Linux live-CDs have worked just fine. On the first computer, it did a kernel panic. On the second computer, it warned that it could not find the root file system and then hung.

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fsckit Member since:
2006-09-24

Same here. I really liked the root filesystem error. "Cannot find root filesystem. Please symlink /dev/root." Terrific, symlink it where? Fedora amazes me in that every test release is a big steaming pile and yet somehow the final releases come out with very few issues.

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netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

It suprises me some distros seem to be in a hurry to poop out the releases.

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superman Member since:
2006-08-01

It's beta product. Not yes ready for the end-user.

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Shots at LQ
by lqsh on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 04:56 UTC
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2007-01-01
RE: Shots at LQ
by unoengborg on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 09:48 UTC in reply to "Shots at LQ"
unoengborg Member since:
2005-07-06

The Test1 release evidently haven't changed the artwork, it still looks like FC6. If you want to follow the ongoing work on what Fedora 7 might look like, follow the fedora-art mailing list or have a look at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes/Fc7ThemeProposalFly...

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RE[2]: Shots at LQ
by arctic on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 12:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Shots at LQ"
arctic Member since:
2006-04-19

Jesus!!! That design-theme is EXTREMELY ugly and amateurish to be honest. Haven't they learned anything about design during all those years?

FC5 stressed the eyes and made fonts almost unreadable.
FC6 shipped a dark, depressing look.
FC7 resembles a kindergarden theme.

Best theme the Red Hat/Fedora guys made yet: Red Hat 9.

JMHO.

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RE[3]: Shots at LQ
by unoengborg on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 12:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Shots at LQ"
unoengborg Member since:
2005-07-06

I suggest that you join the fedora-art mailing list and start helping them. I think the time for submitting completely new suggestions is over, but there is a lot to improve in the current draft. I would say that more people with usability skills should be more involved. When it comes to designing themes. It's not only about what looks good on an artistic level.

I think the FC6 theme was/is quit nice though, even if it was a bit dark.

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Iconset
by ituloyangsulong on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 07:30 UTC
ituloyangsulong
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2007-01-09

Is the iconset shown on the screenshots available anywhere? Is it the new bluecurve?

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RE: Iconset
by NxStY on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 07:59 UTC in reply to "Iconset"
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2005-11-12

It's the new echo theme that replaces bluecurve.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDiscussion

I don't know if I like it or not. It looks too cartoonish.

Edited 2007-02-02 07:59

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RE[2]: Iconset
by ituloyangsulong on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 09:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Iconset"
ituloyangsulong Member since:
2007-01-09

Thanks! Yeah, it's a bit cartoonish but somewhat refreshing compared to bluecurve. Again, thanks for the info.

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KDE ?
by lezard on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 09:04 UTC
lezard
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2005-10-11

What's the plan for KDE ? Will we get a real functional desktop in this version like in any other distribution or will we get the troubled Red Hat/Fedora version ?

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RE: KDE ?
by Finalzone on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 09:44 UTC in reply to "KDE ?"
Finalzone Member since:
2005-07-06
RE: KDE ?
by buff on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 11:09 UTC in reply to "KDE ?"
buff Member since:
2005-11-12

Will we get a real functional desktop in this version like in any other distribution or will we get the troubled Red Hat/Fedora version

Hmm. I Use Fedora 6 to do all my school work, research, etc. I never realized I was using a troubled OS. It seems to work pretty well for me. It looks nice, runs smoothly and is easy to update with Yum.

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RE[2]: KDE ?
by lezard on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 12:50 UTC in reply to "RE: KDE ?"
lezard Member since:
2005-10-11

I'm not talking about the OS in general, even though Fedora 6 doesn't boot on my machine, but about the way they customised the KDE version to something inconsistent and barely usable. I'm talking about the default set of applications (like evolution for the mail reader) and overall configuration.

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