Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 11th Feb 2007 15:48 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Haiku has a booth at SCaLE 5x and here is a report of day one: "SCaLE 5x started this morning and it has been a lot of fun so far. Axel, Michael (Phipps), Jorge (Mare) and myself (BGA) came down to the exhibit floor early this morning to setup the booth in advance of the opening. We have a 10x10 booth with a table and a couple of chairs, so we setup a small form factor desktop PC hooked up to a 20 inch LCD monitor, and a couple of laptops, an IBM running Haiku natively, and a MacBook Pro running Haiku inside Parallels. We are still waiting for an additional PC and a projector that did not make in time, as Michael's luggage was sent to the wrong destination."
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GO GO HAIKU
by ronaldst on Sun 11th Feb 2007 17:00 UTC
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2005-06-29

I look forward to hearing more. I've run Haiku builds on VMWare and it's pretty impressive.

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RE: GO GO HAIKU
by zizban on Sun 11th Feb 2007 17:20 UTC in reply to "GO GO HAIKU"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

They do run great min VMWare...networking support would be great in these builds, too.

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RE[2]: GO GO HAIKU
by ronaldst on Sun 11th Feb 2007 17:40 UTC in reply to "RE: GO GO HAIKU"
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2005-06-29

Not to mention some devs tools like GCC.

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RE[2]: GO GO HAIKU
by umccullough on Sun 11th Feb 2007 20:10 UTC in reply to "RE: GO GO HAIKU"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

zizban:

Second time I've seen this recently - networking support IS in those builds, and there are 2 separate netcard drivers that work with vmware already.

of course, you may have to configure the interface manually using ifconfig and route, and probably create a resolv.conf yourself.

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RE: GO GO HAIKU
by Valhalla on Sun 11th Feb 2007 20:41 UTC in reply to "GO GO HAIKU"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

yep, looking forward to a day two breakdown. the only thing wrong with the pictures was that there was no keyboard attached to Axel, I feel a disturbance in the force...

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add this :)
by sleepsleep on Sun 11th Feb 2007 17:24 UTC
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2007-02-11

if they put "remote desktop capability" to windows and other OS(es) inside haiku then i believe they would win the whole OS market ;)

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RE: add this :)
by nicholas on Sun 11th Feb 2007 17:42 UTC in reply to "add this :)"
nicholas Member since:
2005-07-07

If they had out of the box automagically configuring drivers for every piece of hardware in existance, then hey still wouldn't "win the whole OS market".

A port of Cubase 4 or some other big app would however get some positive mainstream media coverage, and some early adopting desktop users.

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RE[2]: add this :)
by Nutela on Tue 13th Feb 2007 15:34 UTC in reply to "RE: add this :)"
Nutela Member since:
2006-02-09

Yes, WE WANT MUSIC APPS!

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RE: add this :)
by umccullough on Sun 11th Feb 2007 20:13 UTC in reply to "add this :)"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

BeOS already has RDP and VNC support (both client and server for both I believe) - check bebits.

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go on haiku!!!!
by soapdog on Sun 11th Feb 2007 19:55 UTC
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2005-07-25

Haiku is moving at wonderful speed, I look forward for the day it can be the primary OS on my pc...

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Part 2 is up
by ronaldst on Sun 11th Feb 2007 21:59 UTC
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Haiku Progress
by dtravis7 on Mon 12th Feb 2007 02:09 UTC
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2005-07-14

Great news. Now all we need is Luposian here asking if the File Copy problem is fixed!

Glad to see Haiku getting better all the time.

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Visible at last!
by Haicube on Mon 12th Feb 2007 05:34 UTC
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2005-08-06

This is just awesome. I've been waiting for quite some time to here about Haiku in public appearance so to say, and here we are. 5 years later and Haiku slowly getting to the booths where it all starts...

At the point where it's at now, getting people like Axel and Travis to feel "excited" about Haiku is what's gonna bring it to the masses. I just hope some new coders appear on the scene pretty soon, as the pizza delivery guy will soon refuse to walk down Axels basement!

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RE: Visible at last!
by El-Al on Mon 12th Feb 2007 17:28 UTC
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2006-04-17

"I just hope some new coders appear on the scene pretty soon..."

This is my hope also! Just a few more good coders in the right areas should make a marked difference to the project.

This is a remarkable achievement for the team. The visibility, hopefully, may raise the bar enough to bring in the extra momentum required.

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Am I the only one...
by wowtip on Mon 12th Feb 2007 20:33 UTC
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2005-07-14

...getting

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The requested URL /news/2007-02-10/scale_5x_first_day_report_part_i was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


And a C-panel page at http://haiku-os.org/ ?

Edited 2007-02-12 20:33

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Haiku headed in a positive direction...
by Luposian on Mon 12th Feb 2007 21:39 UTC
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2005-07-27

And, from what I could tell, via the CIA commit list, it looks like Axeld is slowly but surely (and hopefully) wending his way towards fixing "the issue that shall not be named" (grin).

Now, I just gotta know... is it possible to boot/run Haiku on an MSI RX480 Neo2-F motherboard, with a Athlon64 X2 4800+ CPU? I still haven't figured out how to get BeOS R5 PE to boot off CD. It just gets to the ocilloscope icon (4th icon) and freezes.

Can't build/copy the latest version of Haiku to the system without BeOS installed... :-(

What needs to be done to fix this issue?

Regardless... GO, HAIKU!!! GO, GO, GO!!!

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Nutela Member since:
2006-02-09

Uhm, download an image and make a bootable CD of it?

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Luposian Member since:
2005-07-27

... which is what I would do, if someone could create a method for doing so that would actually work. The last attempt ("Haiku Live CD" (or whatever it was called)) didn't and doesn't work. The one time I got it to work, all I got was the boot options menu and could never proceed beyond that point. Every other timer, all I got was a CD that wouldn't boot, period.

If anyone has the correct method for doing this, I would be greatly appreciative. I'd even put Haiku on a "Boot USB device" (I have a 512Mb USB Flash drive), if I knew it would work.

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sogabe Member since:
2006-04-27

The reason there is no liveCD or USB flash drive install is that Haiku is still alpha and it is not ready for this. I applaud the Haiku team for not prematurely rushing Haiku to the hands of inexperienced users in the form of liveCDs, etc.

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Luposian Member since:
2005-07-27

Fine. Don't make it "public".

Stick it in some special, password-protected area, only accessible to those who sign up and have affirmed a total and complete understanding/acceptance of the "pre-alpha" status of Haiku and will not complain one iota about any problems that they might have or find, when running Haiku on their system.

But what about people, like me, who WANT to see if Haiku will boot on my MSI RX480 Neo2-F motherboard with Athlon64 X2 4800+? Yet, we can't, because we can't get any version of BeOS to boot on such a system?

Shouldn't we (the one's *willing* to live on the BLEEDING EDGE of Haiku's development) be given the opportunity to cheer Haiku's progress, because we discover we CAN boot it on such modern hardware?

Can't do that if there's no way to get it onto something to boot from.

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To me, Haiku is...
by Tanner on Mon 12th Feb 2007 21:53 UTC
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2005-07-06

..the most important desktop Open source Operating System.

Watch around you. Compare. This SURE is the most promising project out there.

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RE: To me, Haiku is...
by zizban on Tue 13th Feb 2007 00:33 UTC in reply to "To me, Haiku is..."
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

That can be debated and lead to flame wars but Haiku is coming together nicely.

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Thanks to the Haiku "Braintrust"
by DLazlo on Tue 13th Feb 2007 01:57 UTC
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2005-07-06

After effectively 'losing' IRIX for the future of my SGIs, it's very good news to know there's still a lot of hope for the BeOS-style gui/OS continuing. It has long been the most comfortable for me to work in. I will not waste $ on Vista, and with all the hardware I already have, can't justify buying an Intel Mac.

Thanks to all that have done so much wonderful work to date on Haiku. Anxiously awaiting the time to do what I can by helping to promote it. It's looking as if MS is trying to make it easier all the time to tout the benefits of a fast, easy to use OS that DOESN'T require a major hardware upgrade and yet still offers all the benefits BeOS users have been used to for so long!

Edited 2007-02-13 01:59

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Nutela Member since:
2006-02-09

Before I knew BeOS I saw an SGI desktop computer running some demo's on the IBC in Amsterdam, someone was selling some machines and when I saw complex whirling of oil-on-water simulation and smoke simulation and the person demoing was dragging the windows AND NO FRAME WAS LOST, I was in awe.

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