Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 16th Feb 2007 21:45 UTC, submitted by Philipp Esselbach
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04 Herd 4 has been released. The Ubuntu Wiki lists all the changes for Ubuntu and Kubuntu. "Pre-releases of Feisty are not encouraged for anyone needing a stable system, or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are however recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Installing a milestone and then upgrading through the release cycle should leave you with a close approximation of the final release."
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Codec installation wizard
by archiesteel on Fri 16th Feb 2007 22:28 UTC
archiesteel
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2005-07-02

Does anyone know if the codec installation wizard (i.e. the mechanism that hand-holds you through the process of installing codecs when double-clicking on a media file) is only available on Ubuntu (i.e. Gnome frontend) or if it also works with Kubuntu (KDE frontend)?

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RE: Codec installation wizard
by superstoned on Fri 16th Feb 2007 23:22 UTC in reply to "Codec installation wizard"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

I know amarok asks you if you want to install mp3 codecs if you try to play a mp3 file for the first time... Afaik this was already available in edgy.

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RE: screenies
by butters on Sat 17th Feb 2007 03:34 UTC in reply to "screenies"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

Anyone know what KDE menu applet they use for Sabayon Linux? It's sort of like the one from SLED 10 but nicer-looking. I personally think more KDE distros should come with it. Here's the link to the tour, unfortunately it won't let me link to the exact picture, but it's the 6th one:

http://shots.linuxquestions.org/?linux_distribution_sm=SabayonLinux...

Isn't that nice?

Edited 2007-02-17 03:37

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RE[2]: screenies
by MechaShiva on Sat 17th Feb 2007 05:24 UTC in reply to "RE: screenies"
MechaShiva Member since:
2005-07-06

I think it's called Kickoff. The OpenSuse 10.2 KDE install has the same menu (which is how I found it). And I must say, after using it for a while, I like it quite a bit. It's like they took the SLED 10 gnome menu (which itself was a nice change) and just got it right. The best thing about it for me is that there are no more endless sub-menus covering the screen. Add in some nice mouse overs for context changes and things start making sense very quickly.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who digs that.

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RE[2]: screenies
by Darkelve on Sat 17th Feb 2007 11:36 UTC in reply to "RE: screenies"
Darkelve Member since:
2006-02-06

Yeah, it's called the KickOff menu, and it's been developed by Novell after usability testing. That's why it was implemented in SuSe first, but seems like Sabayon picked it up as well.

I'm running it on my OpenSuSe 10.2 desktop, and for me it beats the Windows XP and Vista start menus hands down!

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bornagainenguin
Member since:
2005-08-07

..I just hope the WiFi firmware and misc drivers are available from the install cd this time around. I have a DWL-650 Rev-P and I've never been able to get it to communicate with Linux... Eventually I'm going to have to bite the bullet and go looking for a WiFi card that has Linux support out of the box, but with random chipset changes that's proven to be more difficult that I thought it would be.

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Codec installation wizzard
by secret_force on Fri 16th Feb 2007 23:38 UTC
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2006-06-01

I believe the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is just one package (kubuntu-desktop) so all the other (core) technologies will be shared. I think that it's also the most sensible strategy. It wouldn't make sense if both development teams had to implement the same feature, Kubuntu would (in this way) alway lay behind on Ubuntu, because Ubuntu has much more developers. I therfore think (but I'm not sure) that the core-technologies are shared and the main difference is just the look 'n feel and eyecandy they put over these technologies.
Conclusion: I think both Kubuntu and Ubuntun have this feature, only Kubuntu didn't mention it in their announcement. It would be nice if someone could confirm this.

Edited 2007-02-16 23:38

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RE[2]: Codec installation wizzard
by butters on Sat 17th Feb 2007 03:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Codec installation wizzard"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are meta-packages. They don't have any associated package per se, but they depend on the dozens of packages that comprise their respective desktops. This makes it easy to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu and vice versa without reinstalling (or even rebooting!).

Unfortunately I don't have an answer for your question, because the last time I used Ubuntu the only "hand-holding" codec installation methods were automatix and easyubuntu. I thought it was really easy to install the codecs without any special wizard, but a wizard helps if you don't know what you're looking for.

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archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

I thought it was really easy to install the codecs without any special wizard, but a wizard helps if you don't know what you're looking for.

Oh, it's not for me, I know how to install codecs. :-)

I was just wondering if this new newbie-friendly feature was Ubuntu only, because I didn't see it announced in the Kubuntu announcement.

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RE[4]: Codec installation wizzard
by ubit on Sun 18th Feb 2007 01:07 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Codec installation wizzard"
ubit Member since:
2006-09-08

I read on the Ubuntu forums that amarok will have its own install script pop up when you try to play an mp3 file in Kubuntu...

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using this
by ra1n on Sat 17th Feb 2007 09:07 UTC
ra1n
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2006-02-11

Also running beryl, works fine for me, very stable, nice for a pre-release

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RE: using this
by fredb1974 on Sun 18th Feb 2007 09:17 UTC in reply to "using this"
fredb1974 Member since:
2006-01-31

No need to install feisty to use Beryl ;)

Here, it works flawlessly with an old "crappy" GeForce FX5200 - 128 Mb and Edgy Eft ;)

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RE[2]: using this
by AmigaRobbo on Sun 18th Feb 2007 13:27 UTC in reply to "RE: using this"
AmigaRobbo Member since:
2005-11-15

Got this working with Beryl, no more trouble than with edgy etf, did keep crashing with update manager.

Looks quite nice, but without beryl it was a little of the old Linux "So? it looks like Windows 98 painted brown", with Beryl it's more flash, just not as flashly well designed as MacOSX. dunno about Vista.

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RE[3]: using this
by AmigaRobbo on Sun 18th Feb 2007 23:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: using this"
AmigaRobbo Member since:
2005-11-15

Tried it again on a laptop installed fine, and upadated with no errors, couldn't get Beryl to install using the same method as I got it on the PC, odd...

Does seem to fall over a bit, but that's beta for ya!

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Is startup in it?
by Darkelve on Sat 17th Feb 2007 11:22 UTC
Darkelve
Member since:
2006-02-06

I read that Ubuntu is looking at a possible replacement of sysvinit by something called "Startup". Is that already in this release, or is it for another time?

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RE: Is startup in it?
by the_trapper on Sat 17th Feb 2007 11:52 UTC in reply to "Is startup in it?"
the_trapper Member since:
2005-07-07

Actually, it is called "upstart" and it made its first appearance in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). For more information:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit

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RE[2]: Is startup in it?
by Darkelve on Sat 17th Feb 2007 12:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Is startup in it?"
Darkelve Member since:
2006-02-06

Right. Tx for the link!

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What?
by deathshadow on Sat 17th Feb 2007 16:25 UTC
deathshadow
Member since:
2005-07-12

No Xubuntu?

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blargh
by Caspian on Sat 17th Feb 2007 20:49 UTC
Caspian
Member since:
2006-01-01

Still no core2duo intel965 support quite yet. ;)

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Feisty
by IvoLimmen on Sun 18th Feb 2007 16:34 UTC
IvoLimmen
Member since:
2005-07-06

I have been running Feisty at work and at home since herd 1. I have had some crashes but it never caused any trouble. Never good get Beryl or Compiz to work. The new settings panel is very cool and nice.

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junk
by hohlraum on Sun 18th Feb 2007 21:47 UTC
hohlraum
Member since:
2005-12-13

CD locks during boot up. cd checks out fine.

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Using it myself...
by Kokopelli on Mon 19th Feb 2007 03:09 UTC
Kokopelli
Member since:
2005-07-06

I could not get the 64 bit CD to boot, but the 32 bit came up fine. Confirmed both downloads against the MD5.

I am not fond of Network Manager and wish there was an obvious and easy way to disable it without uninstalling. (I figured it out, but think it could have been easier.)

Other than that it seems par for the course, nothing terribly new since Edgy. I do not like the gnome control center either , but I suppose it is a matter of opinion.

Codec installs are simpler, though there is no longer the libdvdcss script for DVD playback, actually had to hunt down the package.

Overall it seems fine and the new kernel introduces support for my HD-5500 so that is good. Perhaps as I work with it more additional new features will crop up.

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