Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Mar 2007 22:00 UTC, submitted by Ola Jensen
Amiga & AROS A new version of WinAROS has been released. "WinAROS is a preinstalled AROS Environment that runs under Windows, using QEMU. WinAROS is a way to use AROS under Windows and try your programs, made with AmiDevCpp. The new Version comes with Themes and GhostScript installed."
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How to Download?
by Mage66 on Sun 4th Mar 2007 02:28 UTC
Mage66
Member since:
2005-07-11

Neither link takes you to a place you can download it.

Why make it so difficult to find the thing?

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RE: How to Download?
by richmassena on Sun 4th Mar 2007 02:51 UTC in reply to "How to Download?"
richmassena Member since:
2006-11-26

I thought so too. But if you were to download the WinAros info file you'd find this.

It seems there has been a problem with the content managment system.

Please use this Link:

http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/WinAros/WinArosLight_QEMU.7z

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I'm going to pass
by Mage66 on Sun 4th Mar 2007 03:00 UTC
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2005-07-11

I'm not going to install 7Zip just to unzip one zip file. Why the developers insist on using 7zip and excluding 99.9% of people is beyond me.

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RE: I'm going to pass
by AGomes on Sun 4th Mar 2007 03:06 UTC in reply to "I'm going to pass"
AGomes Member since:
2007-03-04

Don't know witch platform you use, but on Windows, WinRAR opens 7zip files just fine.

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RE: I'm going to pass
by dylansmrjones on Sun 4th Mar 2007 04:20 UTC in reply to "I'm going to pass"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Why would anywant want to install WinRAR or WinZip just to unpack one file? ;)

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RE[2]: I'm going to pass
by Mage66 on Sun 4th Mar 2007 04:39 UTC in reply to "RE: I'm going to pass"
Mage66 Member since:
2005-07-11

>> Why would anywant want to install WinRAR or WinZip just to unpack one file? ;) <<

Because they unpack most all files. Windows doesn't even need WINZIP or WINRAR.

It will unpack standard ZIP files quite nicely. As will MacOS X.

That's why ZIP is considered the standard, and why it makes it even more perplexing that WinAROS developers use an obscure compression method rather than the standard.

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RE[3]: I'm going to pass
by jdrake on Sun 4th Mar 2007 05:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm going to pass"
jdrake Member since:
2005-07-07

It is potentially possible that they want to reduce their bandwidth footprint. 7zip is essentially an evolution of bzip2 with a much larger dictionary size. Which is a lot better than regular zip.

There is no reason to consider that someone who would be downloading this to begin with would not have some better archive program then the regular that comes with Windows.

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RE[3]: I'm going to pass
by poundsmack on Sun 4th Mar 2007 08:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm going to pass"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

"That's why ZIP is considered the standard, and why it makes it even more perplexing that WinAROS developers use an obscure compression method rather than the standard."

why on earth would people developing an 'alterntive' operating system use something differnt then the standard? hmmm ;)

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RE[4]: I'm going to pass
by fithisux on Sun 4th Mar 2007 15:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm going to pass"
fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

7zip is open source and better. I do not even use winzip/winrar on my windows box. The 7zip program can open anything. And please stop using dirty words like winzip/winrar.

7z x blahblah.7z on my linux box.

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RE[3]: I'm going to pass
by stestagg on Mon 5th Mar 2007 14:37 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm going to pass"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Windows native zip performance isn't great, if you're going to use large files, get a proper zip utility. This becomes really obvious with Vista, where zip operations typically take minutes, rather than secons.

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RE[2]: I'm going to pass
by AmigaRobbo on Sun 4th Mar 2007 16:38 UTC in reply to "RE: I'm going to pass"
AmigaRobbo Member since:
2005-11-15

And what gets me is they STILL don't tell people that simple winZip won't work, I told them this about 3 years ago, but don't seem to care, maybe they just want to keep it elitist, or maybe they're just dumb?

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RE[2]: I'm going to pass
by stestagg on Mon 5th Mar 2007 14:28 UTC in reply to "RE: I'm going to pass"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Winrar and the Windows 7zip client both handle ZIPs much better than the built-in windows zip handling.

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RE[3]: I'm going to pass
by dylansmrjones on Mon 5th Mar 2007 16:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm going to pass"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I agree. That's why I'm using 7Zip on Windows (and commandline RAR for files 7Zip cannot handle properly).

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RE: I'm going to pass
by gedmurphy on Mon 5th Mar 2007 14:11 UTC in reply to "I'm going to pass"
gedmurphy Member since:
2005-12-23

> Why the developers insist on using 7zip and excluding 99.9% of people is beyond me.

2 very important reasons:

1. it's open source, and most devs (especially open source devs) will use open source alternatives when viable.

2. it makes for a smaller compressed file size, and when your serving files to thousands of downloads, every byte counts.

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Installed it
by fretinator on Sun 4th Mar 2007 04:27 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-06

Looks pretty, but I couldn't find any apps to speak of. I expected to find the usual Text Editor, Games, CD Player, etc. Seemed pretty empty.

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zip standard?
by hagiz on Sun 4th Mar 2007 14:15 UTC
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2006-01-24

Is zip still considered the standard? In my experience most people have been using rar files rather than zip for ages.

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RE: zip standard?
by MattPie on Mon 5th Mar 2007 17:57 UTC in reply to "zip standard?"
MattPie Member since:
2006-04-18

Is zip still considered the standard? In my experience most people have been using rar files rather than zip for ages.

I haven't seen a RAR file in I don't know how long. I'd thought I'd remember, since I got annoyed that I had to find a program to un-rar it. Everything I see is either zip, tar.gz, or tar.bz2.

Redhat Enterprise doesn't even have rar/unrar in the repository. It is available for manual install from:
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/rar/

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