From time to time, we like take a break from technology news to query our readers to find out details about our community. Previously, we asked you to show us your desktop. This time, we ask "What's your favorite movie?" Is it sci-fi or comedy? Action or maybe drama? Share your favorites so we can check them out! I'll start: while I'm tempted to say The Red Violin, I'm not sure there's a better screenplay than The Usual Suspects. 
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I would have to say Dazed and Confused (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677). It's something about it that makes me want to watch it over and over again!
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There's a funny review of Casablanca on Mr. Cranky:
http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/casablanca.html
Of course, the site's rate scale ranges from "Almost Tolerable" to "Proof that Jesus died in vain," so hating everything is kind of his shtick.
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[ followed closely by "Casablanca" ]
I really like most Bogart films, but was disappointed in Casablanca, especially considering the long-standing adoration and hype surrounding this film. Perhaps you could enlighten me regarding the film's appeal, since it's on your list?
"The Maltese Falcon," "To Have and Have Not," and a few others were better-made Bogart films. IMO of course. 
-Bob
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Of course, if I really took the time to think about all of the movies I have seen, I might alter my list slightly. That being said, "Casablanca" is a movie that can be watched over and over again. There are so many good scenes and great dialogue. Some movies when you watch a second or third time, you find yourself waiting for the good parts and tuning out the other parts. I am a big Bogart fan also, and have about 10 of his movies in my DVD collection and the Maltese Falcon is one of them ( also enjoyed the book ). I love Film Noir movies and old classic musicals such as "Singing in the Rain". My most recent DVD purchase was "A Tale Of Two Cities" - great movie and great book ( my favorite author is Charles Dickens ).
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Usual Suspects was predictable. I knew who Keyser Söze was after about the first 15 minutes. As soon as it became apparent that the 'twist' was Keyser's identity, it wasn't too hard to surmise Spacey's character was the one.
I wouldn't have posted this but you commented on it in the article and I had so many people come to me after seeing that movie expousing it's virtues I went to the movie with high expectations only to be kinda let down.
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Kubrick is one of the greatest directors of all time. But since each of his films is so different, it's hard to pick a single film that best represents or highlights his directing. The same thing is true about Robert Altman.
I think "The Killing" is my favorite Kubrick film, an early example of non-linear storytelling and creative directing.
Tim Burton is great too. I didn't care for Scissorhands, but his animated films are incredible.
-Bob
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The forbidden Planet (1956) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/
(sometimes it's fun to watch old sci-fi movies)
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Oldboy.
Also ran:
-A Clockwork Orange
-Back to the Future
-Blade Runner (director's cut)
-Evil Dead
-Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
-Ghost in the Shell
-Koroshiya 1 (Ichi the Killer)
-Mi¶ ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082755/ )
-Mononoke Princess
-Raiders of the Lost Ark
-The Big Lebowski
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The Shawshank Redemption (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/)
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I just love the atmosphere in this movie.
No MTV flashing of frames, this movie is from the time you can actualy see what's going on :-)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/
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Plus-freakin-plus.
I enjoy turning my brain off and watching a decent action flick as much as the next person, but most of them in the last few years are next-to-unwatchable thanks to jump-cut and shakey-cam combination. It always gives me the impression that the filmmakers or actors were incapable of doing convincing fight scenes, so they just resort to a cheap trick to make the scenes seem intense without actually showing anything.
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The problem is that most so-called hacker movies gets all/most of the tech wrong.
Anti-Trust - information theory says the claimed super hack is impossible.
Strange-Days - Ok I loved this one but logic about how people would and did react does not match the real-world I live in. Mob do not think that fast.
Avalon - left me cold.
Existenz - left me cold too.
The Thirteen Floor - seemed like a weak, feel-good ending to me.
TakeDown - Left me disliking Kevin Mitnick as a person.
The Matrix - got so many things wrong I don't even want to try and list them.
SwordFish - Starring Johnie T. Do I need to say more?
Real Genius - Was a great movie where the details went over the head of most viewers.
The Net - Where hacker is being hunted to keep a secret but never considers to the final five minutes that posting the secret on the internet will remove the reason they are hunting her. Plus what women send her time dressing up to look like S.B. did and has no-one who remembers what she looks like?
Hackers - these kids could not hack themselves out of a paper bag. There were a few good ideas but their approach again was all wrong. Worse the evil master plan would not have worked in real-life, at-least no for all the ships, and if one ship reports in what have the finger points right back at the bad guys.
WarGames - you don't crack codes that way.
Disclosure - loved the interface.
TRON - Fun but no real tech.
Johnny Mnemonic - was out of date before it even hit the theatres.
Sneakers - also upset me by having the tech so wrong.
Enemy of the State - Did the tech wrong, but I can see the desire for such control existing in the real world already.
Pirates of Silicon Valley - was interesting to watch.
Just a few comments.
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I know some people don't care for it. But I was 16 when it came out, and I had been waiting for it with tremendous anticipation for years.
It really clicked with me. And to this day, I don't think that another movie has been nearer or dearer to my heart.
Over 28 years, I've seen it so many times that I don't even need to watch it anymore. I can pretty much replay any scene in my head.
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My absolute favourite film is Paddy Chayefsky's Network - it should be required viewing for anyone who enjoys dark comedy. I find it especially impressive because of how thoroughly it avoids the cliches/lazy tricks that have become standard in Hollywood films - despite being a Hollywood film with a big-name cast, etc. One of the greatest and most underrated films ever made - sadly, I've read that George Clooney of all people is working on a remake (bleh). Of course, Darren Aaronofsky's idiotic attempt at remaking Lone Wolf and Cub as a western (!) fell through, so maybe they're still hope.
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Comedy:
Forest Gump!
Drama:
The Shawshank Redemption
The Terminal
Gangster:
The Godfather 2
The Godfather
Road to Perdition
War:
Full Metal Jacket
Saving Private Ryan
Western:
Dances with Wolves
Sport:
Bull Durham
The Legend of Bagger Vance
Thriller:
No Way Out
The Good Shepherd
True Story:
The Basketball Diaries
Romance:
Legends of the Fall
If I had to pick only one: Of course, Forest Gump!
Do you see a trend? Yes, I love Tom Hanks, and I think Matt Damon is great for a young dude.
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So hard to choose from such a long list.
Apocalypse Now
The Godfather
Goodfellas
Donnie Brasco
Lawrence of Arabia
The Big Lebowski
Chinatown
Lord of the Rings
Manhattan
Also love Kurosawa's movies though they are definitely classic and many of the movies from Spain and Latin America. Although they're not movies, the best of Das Boot and the Sopranos is as good as anything on the big screen, imho. Like sci-fi books, sci-fi movies usually bore me rigid and I can't think of any at the moment.
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Yes, i agree. Sorry for leaving My Neighbour Totoro out... I meant *any* by Ghibli... I mentioned some of the movies to help people remember/recognize. Totoro is great! I will watch Totoro tonight. I have a *big* poster from the cinema, with Totoro.... Love it.
Ghibli.... Subtitled and with original language/sound. Can it get better?
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I'm surprised none of you guys mentioned 'Grave of the Fireflies'. Admittedly it's quite possibly the most depressing movie I've ever seen in my life, but I've seen very few war movies that were so powerful in how they affected you while watching it. ++ to pretty much anything Ghibli in any case
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Grave of the Fireflies... Man, it was so long ago that I almost forgot about this movie. Never thought of it as something that I would call a favorite - and I am not a huge fan of Ghibli movies - but I can't quite remember any other animation nor movie that made me cry like I did back then when I watched this so yes, it really touches you. I have to second that this is the most depressing movie that I ever saw in my entire life and I find it really hard to watch again.
For those who like dramas and haven't seen it, I highly recommend it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095327/
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I'd agree, anything Ghibli is great and always beautiful. Grave wouldn't be my absolute favourite but it's pretty close :-) I wouldn't say it's depressing, rather incredibly touching. For instance the scene where Seita washes his face under a tap he stumbled across you get such a feeling of happiness from such a simple thing. I'd probably say Princess Mononoke is my favourite but Nausicaa, Spirited Away and Howl's Moving castle are the ones i have watched the most.
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>> Deer Hunter has my all-time most shocking and thought-provoking scene. He asked for three bullets, played the odds and then shot his way out of what seemed like an absolute no-win situation. <<
"Sigh". If the North Vietnamese Army dudes had typically been so dumb, as to actually do stuff like that, then the outcome of the war might have been different !
"Reality Shows" are just about the only thing I watch anymore. Any PBS war documentary, for example Ken Burns "The Civil War", is so vastly different from such fantasy-scriptwriting as the scene you mention.
It has been a while since I saw "Deer Hunter", and most of the script-writing was superior to "that scene", but this being a software-forum it's appropriate for you to mention worst-case-behavior :-).
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The Net
Ground Hogs Day
UHF (weird Al)
Hoosiers
2001 Space Odyssey
Star Wars Episode IV
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Matrix (not II and III)
PI
Stand and Deliver
KPAX
Forest Gump
The Passion of the Christ
The Explorers
The Natural
Fields of Dreams
The list goes on...
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1) Monty Python and the Quest of the Holy Grail
1) Buster Keaton - The General
3) Monty Python and the Quest of the Holy Grail
3) Buster Keaton - The General
5) The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
6) Monty Python - Life of Brian
7) Pride and Prejudice (yes, the one with Keira Knightley)
8) StarWreck VI - In the Pirkinning
9) Monty Python - And Now for Something Completely Different
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1)"Salň or the 120 Days Of Sodom" - P.P.Pasolini
2)"Godfather pt.II" - F.F.Coppola
3)"2001: A Space Odyssey" - S.Kubrick
4)"And now for something completely different" - Monty Python
5)"Zelig" - W.Allen
6)"Rashomon" - A.Kurosawa
7)"Ed Wood" - T.Burton
8)"Gattaca" - A.Niccol
9)"Scarface" - B.De Palma
10)"The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" - S.Leone
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As wikipedia confirms, the basic plot of Gattaca was "loser wants to be an Astronaut".
I highly recommend Robert Forward's "Rocheworld" for hard-SF on interstellar travel - Boredom, Boredom, Boredom, and yes Panic.
Especially the ex-convict truck-pilot who melted the MacArthur-Maze and the drunkard who commanded the Exxon-Valdez are examples of what happens when Losers get to be Pilots.
Economically, both incidents involve "Unpriced Externalities" as they say, who paid for the wrecks "we all did".
Underdogs can be underdogs for LOTS of varied reasons. But given that the dude in Gattaca actually DID have less-than-pilot-grade vision, for heaven's sake, what we need to examine is, why is it our knee-jerk that we should be rooting for such an underdog ? These mentioned lessons indicate we should be paying various pilots more, so that selection-pressure will save the world from the HUGE downside risk, in those rare Moments of Panic.
By the way Googling (( Freefall 767 )) finds a nice book on what happened when a Real Pilot, a MUSCULAR pilot who flew GLIDERS for a hobby happened to be driving when due to English/Metric confusion his 767 ran out of fuel over Canada. Usually strength is irrelevant, but with only the ram-air-turbine to supply hydraulics, it took everything he had to supply the happy ending, in this case. With a politically-corrent Gattaca-grade-pilot, the situation WOULD have been hopeless.
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A day in the country by Renoir
Solaris, the black and white version
La Regle du Jeu also by Renoir
Two or three things I know about her - Godard. A scene where they are drinking coffee that is absolutely extraordinary, nothing else like it.
Bergman, Smiles of a summer night. And also Through a Glass Darkly, and Wild Strawberries,
It was a different generation....
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In no particular order:
- Memento
- Fight Club
- Akira
- The 5th Element
- Back to the Future I & II
- Any of the Indiana Jones movies
- T2
- Hot Shots! (yeah, silly but so what?)
- Plan 9 From Outer Space (unintended comedy, never laughed so hard 
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- Macross Plus (movie version) (weak story, great visuals: the "Top Gun" of anime)
- *Anything* by Pixar
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Even though I can't bear to watch it again.
I like sci-fi, though there are very few good films in the genre (some exceptions like 12 Monkeys), original comedies (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was good) and drama that makes you feel like you were picked up and thrown against a wall (see above, also Gegen Die Wand). I can take romance if it is non-sappy and isn't brainless (check out Die Fetten Jahre Sind Vorbei).
Honerable mentions: Memento, My Summer of Love, The Machinist and too much others to mention.
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Certainly the best thing to come from Denmark since Legos
Intruiging story, told excellently, great acting too. Also, the dark and grainy visuals that stem from following the Dogma '95 principles really add to the atmosphere of this movie.
But I've seen a few other excellent movies mentioned here, especially The Professional/Leon, Tim Burton movies, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and PI. I must say Memento also deserves an honourable mention, just like The 5th Element (yeah I just have a bit of a soft spot for Milla Jovovich in that movie 
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No question. Favorite movie of all time. Afterall, I saw it 20+ times in the theater... night after night after night. And I have the ticket stubs to prove it.
I know every scene, every name, every line, when and where and how. Wanna prove it? Try me... quote a line spoken in the movie. I'll tell you who said it and in what scene. Name a moment from any scene and I'll tell you everything about it and who was in it.
I'm 38 now. I watched it that many times when it FIRST came out. It's the ONLY Disney movie (animated or otherwise) as well as the ONLY movie, period, I have EVER been compelled to see over and over again.
I attribute it to (what I jokingly refer to) a "Nala fetish".
"The Lion King II: Simba's Pride" is a fairly decent sequel. If it had a tad more polish and taken some of the overt silliness out of it (Kovu's brother is an absolute LOON and Timon and Pumbaa act a little too much like their Saturday Morning Cartoon selves for my taste), it could have been released in the theater. The songs are awesome ("We Are One", "Upende", and "Love Will Find A Way" totally rule!) and the "in your face" (i.e. not subtle) love between Kiara and Kovu is nice. But the hyena's and Timon/Pumbaa (combined), in The Lion King, were never as silly as Kovu's brother, alone!
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The Devil's Advocate (haven't seen it mentioned yet) is my favorite followed by Hackers, Antitrust, The Fifth Element and Starship Troopers, Office Space and Snakes on a Plane.
On SoaP, the only reason I think I liked it was because I saw it in the theater on opening night and it was quite spectacular, everyone throwing rubber snakes around and wearing SoaP shirts, fantastic.
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As a DVD collector (yes, all legally bought) I'd be hard-pressed to name a favorite. As others have said, anything by Kubrick is way up there. Then there's Scorcese (Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Last Temptation of Christ), Woody Allen (Annie Hall, Radio Days)...
On a more trashy note, anything by John Carpenter. "Ringu" is also way up there as one of the few movie that actually scared me.
More obscure mentions would go to "Withnail and I" and Tom Stoppard's "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead".
Saw "Children of Men" and "Flags of our Fathers" yesterday...two excellent films, highly recommended.
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I guess given my nickname it should be clear that I like the movie brazil from terry gilliam very much.
Some other of my favorite movies, in no particular order:
2001: A space odyssey
Trainspotting
Dead Man
Gattaca
Eraserhead (David Lynch)
Lost Highway
Apocalypse Now
Bladerunner
Dogville (Lars von Trier)
Idioten (Lars von Trier)
Clerks
Slackers
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Stalker by Andrei Tarkovski...a desaturated masterpiece
Stalker simply has no movie to be compared in western cinema
http://imdb.com/title/tt0079944/
Best Hollywood movie evah... L.A. Confidential, it is a shame that Holywood haveen't been able to produce more than 2-3 movies of this quality every 10 years
http://imdb.com/title/tt0119488/
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Seems a preference for Hollywood is the majority here, but I've got to pipe in with some overlooked non-American films:
* Trois couleurs: Blanc (Three Colors: White) - funny and endearing. Along the same lines, I'd also have to nominate 'Trois couleurs: Bleu', but for different reasons (see below).
* Das Boot - War in a cold, small space.
* Nikita - Brilliant! And if someone nominates 'Point of No Return', may God strike you down .
* Dobermann - An action movie which hits the gas and doesn't let up (Tchéky Karyo is also a brilliant actor, see 'Nikita' above).
* The English Patient - I can't even bear to watch it now -- it's that moving.
* Satin Rouge - A Tunisian movie where a woman comes into her own.
* M - The film which laid the groundwork for film noir.
* Anything with Juliette Binoche in it.
I could go on-and-on, but I'll leave it here.
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Brasil (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/) or
Dune (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087182/)
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Amen! I really love the retro-futuristic atmosphere in Brazil (the "computers" with the transparent screens and manual typewriter keyboards, the cars, etc).
The story behind the film is also quite amusing. Universal refused to release the film unless Gilliam cut more off the running time, or re-cut it with a happy ending. Gilliam took out a full page ad in a LA newspaper and ran a personal letter to the president of universal, along the lines of "Dear Mr. so-and-so, why won't you release my film Brazil?" Then someone discovered that there was no rule stating that film had to have been released to be eligible for Academy Awards, so a group of film critics got it nominated based on private screenings. And Universal was essentially forced to release it, to avoid the embarrassment of refusing to release a film that ended up winning multiple Oscars.
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Amelie is definitely up at the top...
Just about anything with Audrey Hepburn (Breakfast at Tiffany's especially)
The LOTR Trilogy
Most of the Trek movies
I found L.I.E. (Independant) strongly moving and disturbing (great movie...Bryan Cox is a great actor)
I'm far better at the "favorite show" or "favorite music" questions!
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The absolute MUST watch movie is "The Passion of The Christ". But only for the express reason of seeing what Jesus went through for us on the cross.
It is not a movie you go to see for "entertainment". It's a movie to go see the utterly realistic depiction of the suffering Jesus went through for us. And, going to see it more than once for any other reason, seems needless. We saw it once in the theater and bought it on DVD as soon as it came out, but we've never taken it out of it's shrinkwrap. Why? Because we can't justify watching it for any other reason than to see the most realistic portrayal of Jesus' suffering for us that I think has EVER been done.
Maybe it would be good to watch on Easter (in church), though... since the theme of Easter in our church is all about the death and resurrection of Jesus.
Dunno...
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"Just out of curiosity, how do you know it was realistic?"
Try to imagine being beaten with a whip of cords with bits of metal and splintered bone in the tips, across your bare back. By individuals who actually were laughing at your suffering as they brough the whip down time and time again, as hard as they could. You want to say that you wouldn't be in just as much suffering as what we see "Jesus" was in the movie? I can't imagine a more accurate depiction of physical suffering as what I saw. And I believe the real Jesus suffered no less than that, if not even more.
Don't try and get me started. I got in trouble once for that (even though I was purely joking around, being silly). You want to discuss this further, Email me directly.
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I would recommend The Last Temptation of Christ ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095497/ ), it's a really good movie.
I'll also recommend another title that people haven't mentioned: Trainspotting ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117951/ )
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"The Last Temptation of Christ" is a blasphemous movie, to truly born-again Christians. It depicts a Jesus who sinned (or at least desired to; I never saw the movie, so I'm only going from what little I remember hearing or reading about it). Not the sinless, spotless Son of God as we know Him. Another movie that goes along this same line of thinking, is "The DaVinci Code" and "The Lost Tomb of Christ" (or whatever that ridiculous cable movie by James Cameron was called).
"Good movies" are not always ACCURATE movies, if you're trying to depict historical accounts of people. And accurate movies are not always considered "good movies", by many people.
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Which reflects more poorly on born-again Christians than it does on Scorsese's film (or Kazantzakis' novel before it). You really should at least deign to see the film before passing judgment on it - despite its "blasphemous" nature, it presents Jesus and his message in a much more sympathetic/positive light than Mel Gibson's propaganda piece/gore-and-cheese-fest.
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"You really should at least deign to see the film before passing judgment on it - despite its "blasphemous" nature, it presents Jesus and his message in a much more sympathetic/positive light than Mel Gibson's propaganda piece/gore-and-cheese-fest."
No. I worship a Jesus who is the sinless Son of God. Who died for our sins on the cross of Calvary and rose again on the 3rd day. I will NEVER watch a movie that portrays Jesus as a flawed or ordinary "human". That totally negates everything the bible says about Him.
Just because you and others want a Jesus who seems more "tangible" and "understandable" (i.e. "he was just a good man who taught good principles we should follow after"), doesn't make Him that way.
What Jesus went through WAS gory. It WAS extremely bloody! What he went through WAS a horribly cruel way to die. But He did it for US! All of us. Every last one of us. All we need to do is accept His sacrifice. But far too many just can't... or won't.
If you want a movie about a Jesus who lived an ordinary life... who was just as flawed as you and me... there are plenty of them. I choose to watch movies that glorify Him... not bring Him down to our level. He already "came down to our level" ("...and the Word became flesh...") 2,007 years ago, so we could rise up to His!
Email me, if you wish to continue this discussion...
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Even assuming the historicity of the events (which is a big leap in and of itself), it was exaggerated to an almost cartoonish degree in The Passion.
There's a difference between an accurate portrayal of violence and gratuitously reveling it (slow-motion blood splatters, etc).
Uh huh. And now, when you make point, you can point to The Passion and say "See what I mean!"
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"There's a difference between an accurate portrayal of violence and gratuitously reveling it (slow-motion blood splatters, etc)."
Ok... you have a point. I didn't recall that. But I'll believe you. Yes, agreed. Slow-motion is definitely over-excessive when depicting the suffering of our Savior. I'm sure it was meant to further convey His suffering, but it really wasn't necessary.
But realize, it wasn't violence for violence sake. It was portraying violence against our Savior. While the extra "effects" were, I admit, gratuitous, it's purpose (I believe) was meant to further cement the suffering He went though in our fairly jaded minds.
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As an atheist and ex-catholic (if you can call that an indoctrinated child) I've never really got what's so special about Jesus dying on the cross. It was quite common punishment back in the day and lots of people died that way, nobody seems to be amazed by that.
Passion of the Christ is like making a movie about daily life of a concetration camp prisoner or person tortured by spanish inquistion (at least there could be a comedy scene about non-expectance of spanish inquisition).
Yay, religion flamebait ;/
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"As an atheist and ex-catholic (if you can call that an indoctrinated child) I've never really got what's so special about Jesus dying on the cross. It was quite common punishment back in the day and lots of people died that way, nobody seems to be amazed by that."
It doesn't surprise me one iota that you went from being a catholic to an atheist, because you must be born-again in order for you to have an actual relationship with God and be His.
While I would absolutely love to get really "into" this issue, right here and now, it would be vastly off-topic. If you want to discuss this matter in more detail, contact me via Email.
"Passion of the Christ is like making a movie about daily life of a concetration camp prisoner or person tortured by spanish inquistion."
Jesus didn't go through that, but ONCE in His life. It was not "daily life" for Him, so your comparison is utterly invalid. Not that it surprises me. You simply don't understand Jesus, because you were never born-again.
"Yay, religion flamebait ;/"
Yeah, tempting as it is, I have attempted to keep it as low-key as possible. If you want to discuss (or debate) this issue further, you know how to reach me.
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"Personally I'm an Asatru (google it if you don't know, i don't time to explain)."
Ah, Norse mythology! Fascinating culture and beliefs, and one goddess is/was the source of the day we call Easter! I knew Easter was a weirdly amalgamized day, sourced from pagantry, but I had no idea that the hare and the egg were symbols of her. Now I know where the idea of the bunny and eggs came from!
"I watched that movie and was utterly disgusted by it. It was designed for maximum shock value to scare the weak minded sheeple back in line and went to horrid lengths to do so."
It's not meant to be a "fun" movie. It's MEANT to shock us, with the reality of what Jesus went through, so that we may appreciate His sacrifice for us that much more!
As far as us "weak-minded sheeple" are concerned, I'll take that as a complement! Why? Because Jesus is The True Shepherd and His sheep know His voice!
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
(John 10:27)
One source of the word "Shepherd" is "sheep herder". ("Look it up in Google...", as you so nicely put it ). So, yes... we born-again Christians *ARE* "sheeple" (sheep-people)! Thank you very much! :-)
At least the God we serve actually EXISTS! Unlike the Norse mythological gods... who never sacrificed *anything* for their worshippers. God *gave*... but gods *demand*...
'Nuff said. I've gone off topic far too much already (thanks to you). If you wish to continue this, please feel free to Email me directly.
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Yet you're praising a film made by a Catholic, specifically to present an interpretation based on Catholic tradition, and largely based on the writings of a Catholic nun?
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"Yet you're praising a film made by a Catholic, specifically to present an interpretation based on Catholic tradition, and largely based on the writings of a Catholic nun?"
"The Passion of The Christ" is not about who directed the movie, who wrote the script, or who had what visions (or writings) that inspired the movie...
It's about the suffering of Jesus. What He went through for us! You're seeing everything except what the movie was truly about. Should that surprise me? I suppose not...
The movie simply makes "more real", what Jesus actually went through, in the most graphic, detailed way possible. Because what He went through WAS graphic and it was VERY detailed! Every prophecy concerning His sacrifice was fulfilled the day He was crucified. What are the odds of that?
It's hard, for even us Christians, to really understand what Jesus experienced, because the bible doesn't go into minute details about it. The movie simply "fills in all the details", so that we can truly SEE what He experienced.
Sure, there is "Catholic interpretation" in it... how couldn't there be? Every step of it's creation was influenced by Catholicism. But if you dismiss the movie based purely on all the extraneous "chaff", you miss the entire point of the movie itself.
Just because a lot of people may think that the movie was "too graphic" or "too catholic" or "Jesus (in the movie) shed more blood than the human body contains", doesn't make the truth of what the movie was REALLY about any less meaningful... except to those who watched the movie for the wrong reasons.
'Nuff said. Back on track, please...
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Eh, you've missed the point of my post. I was pointing out the contradiction in praising a film as being "accurate" and "true," and then suggesting that the people responsible for the film/the theology behind the film are incapable of having an "actual relationship with God and be His."
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"Eh, you've missed the point of my post. I was pointing out the contradiction in praising a film as being "accurate" and "true," and then suggesting that the people responsible for the film/the theology behind the film are incapable of having an "actual relationship with God and be His."
No, I haven't. What you don't realize is, God can take a sinner and win people to Christ. He can take something bad and turn it to His glory. God can do things like that. It doesn't matter who made the movie (or why), if I walk away from it, with a greater appreciation of what Jesus did for me, then the movie has accomplished the goal for which it was meant.
I doubt Mel Gibson made this movie just to ick people out with it's violence. I believe he intended for the people who watched this movie, to come away with a realization of exactly what Jesus went through at Calvary.
It doesn't matter what "nonsense" (demon baby, et al) was mixed in and between the scenes. It's all about Jesus, plain and simple. If all you see is the "gratuitous effects" or the "catholic influence" or the "excessive blood and gore", you're not paying attention to the message.
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Eh? No you haven't what? By suggesting that only those who are born-again can have an "actual relationship with God and be His," is that not an implicit suggestion that such a relationship is lacking/not possible with other flavours of Christianity?
So artistic license is okay when it comes to ridiculously exaggerated gore, but not when it comes to interpretation of the canonical "facts"?
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I recall that it's been criticized for being decidedly unrealistic - E.g., on screen, Jesus loses more blood than the human body contains. And IIRC, the source for many of the specific details was not biblical, but taken from writings describing the visions of 18th century Austrian nun.
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"I recall that it's been criticized for being decidedly unrealistic - E.g., on screen, Jesus loses more blood than the human body contains."
I was not aware of this, while watching it, but that's probably because I wasn't paying to the amount of blood loss onscreen, but the portrayal of suffering "Jesus" went through, onscreen.
It's called "The PASSION (suffering) of the Christ", not "The Blood Loss of the Christ" *sigh* If you're watching the movie for the right reason, the point is lost.
"And IIRC, the source for many of the specific details was not biblical, but taken from writings describing the visions of 18th century Austrian nun."
I saw a few myself, that seemed out of place... like the demon child being nursed by the "Satan mother". That was really weird. No movie is perfect. And "artistic license" is going to be used, whether we like it or not.
But the "suffering", to me, was entirely realistic. And that's why I went. To see a representation of His suffering for us.
If you're not one of His... you can't understand.
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It's called "The PASSION (suffering) of the Christ", not "The Blood Loss of the Christ" *sigh*
No need to be disingenuously melodramatic, it was an *example* to address your specific claim that the film was a realistic depiction. It's certainly not the only example either - all of the violence in The Passion is relentlessly exaggerated and over the top, it's up there with Dead Alive Riki Oh as one of the most gratuitously gory films I've ever seen.
Riiiight. That's a convenient way to dismiss criticism without the hassle of actually addressing it.
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"No need to be disingenuously melodramatic, it was an *example* to address your specific claim that the film was a realistic depiction. It's certainly not the only example either - all of the violence in The Passion is relentlessly exaggerated and over the top, it's up there with Dead Alive Riki Oh as one of the most gratuitously gory films I've ever seen."
Well, I guess the only way we'll ever truly know if the movie was accurate or not, is to actually have someone go through all that Jesus did... and then be nailed to a cross afterwards.
Um, you wanna volunteer?
I'll pass, thank you.
The movie accomplished the goal I believe it was created to reach. And I appreciate the movie on no other level than that.
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Eh? I don't have to be a doctor to say with certainty that someone doesn't get most their skin flayed off and lose that much blood without dying as a fairly quick result.
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"Eh? I don't have to be a doctor to say with certainty that someone doesn't get most their skin flayed off and lose that much blood without dying as a fairly quick result."
You're assuming Jesus was an average human. Do normal people turn water into wine, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, restore withered limbs to whole, walk on water, feed tens of thousands of people with 3 loaves and 2 fishes, walk through a crowd of people who wanted to stone him without being touched, heal the son of someone when that dying individual wasn't even there, dry up a womans issue of blood just by having the hem of his garment touched, heal a cut off ear...
Shall I go on?
You think something like being beaten, flayed, and having a crown of thorns jammed into his skull is going to stop Jesus... the Spotless Lamb of God... the final sacrifice... from making it all the way to Calvary? Pah! He's God the Son, man! You don't stop God from accomplishing His purpose... and no amount of torture and beating and whipping and crucifying was going to defeat Him, til He said "It is finished!"
THAT'S a God I can respect! Amen!
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You think something like being beaten, flayed, and having a crown of thorns jammed into his skull is going to stop Jesus... the Spotless Lamb of God... the final sacrifice... from making it all the way to Calvary? Pah! He's God the Son, man! You don't stop God from accomplishing His purpose... and no amount of torture and beating and whipping and crucifying was going to defeat Him, til He said "It is finished!"
THAT'S a God I can respect! Amen!
This is SO off-topic, but I just have to stick my nose here quickly..First of all, I get the feeling you glorify jesus because you think of him as a superhero with fantastic superpowers, and if he didn't have such, you'd lose all your respect for him. And secondly, as far as I remember from what I've read, jesus wasn't a god, and didn't mean for himself to be glorified and iconified but rather make people believe in "God". Remember the story of the golden statue? Well, you seem to have fallen in the same trap..
Oh, just as a little bit of info to you: if you had truly been studying these things, you'd know not everything in bible is to be taken literally, and jesus wasn't born 2007 years ago..He was born actually a few years earlier.
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"If you're not one of His... you can't understand.
Riiiight. That's a convenient way to dismiss criticism without the hassle of actually addressing it."
The bible clearly says, the wisdom of God is foolishness to man. The Word of God contains the Wisdom of God. Hence, you can't comprehend it... until you're one of His.
Tell me, do you know what it's like to fly on the Shuttle? How can you, until you're IN the shuttle, first? Until you're ON God's path, you can't understand what God's path is like or about.
Simple truths are oft the hardest to comprehend, because we want/expect them to be more complex.
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"The bible clearly says, the wisdom of God is foolishness to man. The Word of God contains the Wisdom of God. Hence, you can't comprehend it... until you're one of His.
So in other words, it's not possible to have religious conviction until you have religious conviction?"
'Religious conviction' has nothing to do with it. The Holy Spirit helps bring you to the point of acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice. Then, from that point, you can then embark on comprehending God's Word.
The Word of God is spiritually decerned. You can't understand it until your spirit is reborn, hence why Jesus said "ye MUST be born-again" [emphasis mine, for clarification of requirement] . We Christians didn't just pull the name "born-again" out of thin air... Jesus said it. That's why we call ourselves that.
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Mine is "Amores perros"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amores_perros
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My favorite movie of all time would have to be "It's All Gone Pete Tong". It's simply an amazing movie. If you've never seen this movie go check it out.
A few others close behind it:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Strangers on a Train
Citizen Kane
Last Night (directed by Don McKeller)
The Sweet Hereafter
Stranger Than Fiction
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>> fear is the main enemy of the human race <<
Sorry I have not actually seen that film.
However (( War "who's right" "who's left" ))is a worthy Google Query, within the context of Dawkins "The Selfish Gene". Dawkins-wise, at the most-rationally-courageous, our parents made us babies before going off to war.
Which brings up (( "the Who" Tommy )) "It's a boy Mrs. Walker it's a boy"... I have not seen the DVD but ever since the ancient college days some tunes will occasionally go on endless-loop in my head, "listening to you..."
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I would have to say my favorite movie for lasting replay value is "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead"
Others that make the short list:
- Anything my studio Ghibli with "Kiki's Delivery Service" holding a special place.
- "Before Sunrise" and "Before Sunset"
- "The Crow"
- And having stayed up through the night to watch the entire Firefly series in order, "Serenity"
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In no particular order:
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Requiem For a Dream
Sin City
Pulp Fiction
Dazed and Confused
Scarface
Natural Born Killers
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
The Princess Bride
Reservoir Dogs
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Taxi Driver
A Bronx Tale
Tombstone
Goodfellas
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Not my favorite, but it's hasn't been mentioned yet, a must see if you like Kiefer Sutherland and who doesn't? ;-)
Dark City http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/
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The Cell
anything from Ghibli (Totoro was the first anime that I ever saw)
Akira
Super Troopers
Y Tu Mama Tambien
Ong Bak, The Thai Warrior (the very end made me go "DAAAAAAMN!!!")
Digimon Movie 2: Bokura no War Game (I'm sorry, but Season 3 was the best)
Face (Korean horror mystery)
Snatch
And no, I'm not ashamed over the more juvenile selections.
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Though it's a rare comedy in my collection, the Princess Bride is my favorite. The classic lines just keep rolling out: Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
The movie also went up a notch in my estimation when I read that Andre the Giant ran up a $40,000 bar tab at the hotel in about a month of shooting. That's epic.
Everyone's throwing in extras so here are a few of mine:
Blade
The Matrix
Serenity
Constantine
Underworld
Star Wars
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Eh, the list goes on...
Great idea for a slow news day.
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For a long time, "North By Northwest" was my favorite, being one of those "perfect" movies where everything came together. But I have since switched to "The Third Man" by Carol Reed from 1947. In my poor humble opinion, it is better than even Citizen Kane. It is one of those movies where you memorize every line. With Joseph Cotton, Orson Welles, and Trevor Howard. Get the DVD, it's very habit forming. Also likely the best example of film noir.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041959/
And the zither theme tune isn't bad, either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFz79SBnuk8
But another great movie I saw recently on the "old movie channel" ^^ was "The Devil and Miss Jones" from 1941. One of the funniest movies I have ever seen:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033533/
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Ha! You bitches don't know about movies. I'll tell y'all the top movies, in no particular order:
The Matrix
The Abyss
The Rock
2010
Armageddon
Spiderman
Terminator 2
Rocky 4
Sudden Death
A Walk to Remember
And one that'll definitely make the list when it comes out this summer:
Transformers
The trailer alone will blow you away! That f--ker is destined for glory, no doubt about it.
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On the whole, Aliens 2 has to the best sci-fi movie. I mean there's lots of greats, but this one is always a good watch. Oh crap, and how about Big Trouble in Little China? Who hasn't seen that a dozen times?
Here's another good one that none have mentioned: Somewhere in Time. Trust me, it's the perfect date movie --and you might like it too.
For sci-fi junkies I also recommend Colossus: The Forbin Project. The ending monologue is classic.
BTW, does anyone recall Electric Blues (I think that's what it was called), where the computer falls in love with "her" owner?
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Roddy McDowell delivers some of the best lines of his career... There's just an 'atmosphere' to the movie - though I do get a laugh out of how people criticize the movie for it's 'all synthesized' soundtrack, when in fact it's all accoustic (Oboe, Contrabass Clarinet)
Besides, any visit to a house made evil by:
Drug addiction, alcoholism, sadism, beastiality, mutilation, murder, vampirism, necrophilia, cannibalism, not to mention a gamut of sexual goodies. Shall I go on?
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Daniel Craig in Layer Cake. It's knock my all time favorite movie from it's long time perch, Aliens. Daniel Craig is excellent, the movie never slows down and it keeps you intrigued the whole time. I've got this movie on DVD, mp4 on my XBMC and in WMV format for my PDA. Rent this and you won't be disappointed!
At IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375912/
Pete sends...[eom]
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"Tous les matins du monde"
http://imdb.com/title/tt0103110/
A haunting, mesmerizing, story of the artist Monsieur de Sainte Colombe.
I've watched, on average, 200 new movies every year for the past 30 years and this one is near the top of my list regardless of for whom the list is these days.
No car chases, no exploding heads. It is the story of a man who is totally dedicated to his work, his art, the music in his soul.
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I can't believe in all these posts that no one has mentioned American Psycho (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144084). One of the recent greats among Donnie Darko, Mulholland Drive, Fight Club, etc...
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A list, in no particular order: American Beauty, Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Johnny Guitar, Casablanca, 2001, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, Gladiator, Blue Velvet, Mullholand Drive, Most Clint Eastwood movies (the Western Spaghetti Trilogy from Sergio Leone, Unforgiven, Dirty Harry movies, Million Dollar Baby, Bird, White Man Black Heart(?), Letters from Iowjima) some movies with scripts based in Philip K. Dick stories (as Blade Runner, Total Recall, Minority Report), One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Saving Private Ryan, V from Revenge, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, A Fish Called Wanda, Frankenstein Junior, A History of Violence and a bunch of Woody Allen artwork (Bullets over Broadway, Matchpoint have a terrific story, but I could mention ten or more of his films).
Well, I stop here and perhaps I forgot some American movie I love... About European Movies (I'm in Europe...) I suggest a nice one called Europa and a German TV series called "Heimat ?" (MotherLand) which delighted me 15 or 20 years ago... Oh, OK, plus Seinfeld and DR. House, nowadays, from USA. In fact, in the last years there were very good TV series (Sopranos, 6 Feet Under...)
Uff...
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I have watched this great film for five times.
I think anyone who really love films will be deeply touched by it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095765/
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Letter from an unknown woman - A love story, that, in some way, looks like "The Bridges of Madison County".
Great actors, and great black&white pictures.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040536/
Hotaru No Haka (Grave of the Fireflies) - An animation movie, so emotional, that it would be unwatchable if it was a classic (real, live) film.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095327/
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Here's a list of some of my favs that came to my mind now (too many good movies to list even a small part of them):
- any movie by Akira Kurosawa (for example: Ran, Cobweb Castle, Rashomon, Dersu Uzala, Madadayo, ...)
- most Stanley Kubrick movies (for example: Full Metal Jacket is the best Vietnam war film in my opinion) Kubrick's movies - even if you didn't perhaps like them - make you think and not give you a chance to just switch your brains off. A good sign to me.
- Breaking the waves (Lars von Trier)
- Jerusalem (Bille August)
- Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (by Mike Nichols, excellent actors and acting)
- Piano (Jane Campion) (good music and a touching story)
- Citizen Kane (Orson Welles)
- late (the more serious) Charlie Chaplin movies
- many, many southern European and especially Italian classics (an example of the lesser known classics: Bitter Rice (Giuseppe De Santis, 1949), or a more modern classic: Nuovo cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988)
There are also many good drama movies from Asia nowadays: Hongkong, India, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan....
(Yeah, not many modern Hollywood movies in my list...)
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You should all watch his movies :
http://imdb.com/name/nm0578483/
I like "Le cercle rouge".
This director was a source of inspiration for John Woo (his Hong Kong movies) adn Tarantino.
Btw my favourite directors are Scorsese, Melville, Tarantino, Leone and Burton.
I'd say the movie i've seen the most time is "The Good, the bad and the ugly", with a fresh mexican beer. Predictable fun.
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I've too many to list but quite a few have been listed already.
Anything by Kubric or Gilliam, I also like a lot of Ridley Scott's work (Alien, Blade Runner) and Spielberg's. Sam Mendes has only done a few so far but they're all good, the photography in his films is excellent.
Some not mentioned:
Last of the Mohicans
The Killing Fields
Solaris (later version)
Contact
Threads ( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488&q=thre... )
If you want to see something different: "Pi" and "Man bites dog".
If you want a laugh: Amelie, The Blues Brothers, Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and Little Shop of Horrors, ("You’ll be a dentist. You have a talent for causing things pain").
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The attack begins 46:00 into the film, "well thought out", nicely done, and even timely given that the premise was Iran-centric ! It seems that a lot of real war footage was mixed in, the attack-scenes have that sense of being real rather than special-effects-y, scary indeed.
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Searching the Google Video on (( "RAPE OF NANKING" )) finds the full version, the 1:17 "English Language Edition" with the plain red-on-black slide on the left.
I just skipped through the dead-body-footage, the REALLY scary part was the summary lessons, beginning at about 1:13, e.g. at 1:13:53
"The Nanjing Massacre is a lie made up by the Chinese" -- Ishihara Shintaro, Japanese Cabinet Minister, 1990.
followed by a few more similar slides from contemporary Japan.
and at 1:14:40 "Those Who Deny the Past...And Those Who Do Not Learn From the Past...Are Condemned to Repeat the Past and Suffer the Consequences"
THANKS for pointing me to that "Threads" documentary, it was following links from that that I stumbled over Nanking. The most dreadful word I remember from the "Threads" documentary was "Escalate" - in the USA "War in Iraq" seems to always mean relatively light-duty-stuff, from a historical perspective, a few IED's, a few more doors kicked down, a few more suicide bombs. Worth revisting these documentaries on those HUGE weapons available on such short notice...
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Swedish Action Movie
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"Now thats just mean!"
It's only "mean" if you acknowledge it as true. Otherwise, it's pure and utter nonsense that no one should pay any attention to.
While I can appreciate the "fiction" of Norse mythology, when it comes down to brass tacks... I choose to believe in a God that I have a book about (that millions read and believe in) and archeological proof to support it's claims.
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There's about as much evidence for Norse mythology as there is for the claims of Christianity.
That is, absolutely none.
If you are a Christian, that's great, and I respect that, but to claim that Christian beliefs have more evidence than other religions is just untrue. Not that it should affect your faith, since after all faith is supposed to be belief in the absence of proof.
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"There's about as much evidence for Norse mythology as there is for the claims of Christianity.
That is, absolutely none."
Email me and I'll SHOW you evidence! I've got it in a lengthy text file with pictures! I can take you to URL's that back it up. If you were actually SEEKING to know, you'd find it. Not hard, once you know where to look.
"If you are a Christian, that's great, and I respect that, but to claim that Christian beliefs have more evidence than other religions is just untrue. Not that it should affect your faith, since after all faith is supposed to be belief in the absence of proof."
As the bible says, "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (I believe I got that right). So, yes, you're right. But, as far as tangible evidence (mounting almost daily)... you only need to LOOK, in order to SEE. And I've got quite a bit saved up in a text file, right here on my computer... Email me to find out more.
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