Post a Comment
I used progeny's CL for years and it was a great product. It brought an easy installer and configuration tools and LSB to debian without losing authenticity. The DCC was a disaster. It's now practically dead and it killed CL with it. As Ian got busier, progeny went further down the drain. I ended up having to go to other distros (a few months of fedora, followed by over an year with arch). Its a sad story. He should have never started DCC.
The DCC was a disaster. It's now practically dead and it killed CL with it. As Ian got busier, progeny went further down the drain.
It's rather like UserLinux as well. An awful lot of people who thought they could produce something for the enterprise out of Linux and pure open source software, but where the ideas never matched reality in any shape or form.
so sad.. Progeny was so hot http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=359&slide=2...
commercial distro bites the dust, just one in at least three I would expect in the next year or so...
I wonder how Ian managed to *birth* Debian and then move away from the ideals.
I thank him for what he created. I do not understand how you move away and become so critical of such a great ideal.
I thank him for what he created. I do not understand how you move away and become so critical of such a great ideal.
Considering Ian Murdocks current stance on the Debian idea and community I'd say we not only should wonder but also be grateful that he left Debian.
He did a lot for modern distro's, most now follow is idea's...
He was never for the community process currently in place with Debian though, he was only ever interested in the technological side of Debian.
He thought Componentized Linux could work, but he didn't have the best foundation for that (I believe the rPath approach is superior).
He gets too much credit in many ways, what Debian is today is not a reflection of him - I don't think he even lasted long enough for the current iterations of dpkg and apt to be written.
Progeny was a lot more than just a distro. In fact in its later years it didn't even provide a community distro anymore. It developed custom distros for specific markets and applications. In addition to that they worked on developing some really incredible bits of software that unfortunately never were allowed to come to full fruition.
I have friends who worked at Progeny and I feel for there loss. They *had* a great company, it's sad it lost its way like it did.
I still have a fully working progeny as vmware image (but with its own ip as one of my "small" servers) which I installed so long ago I can't even remember. Now I started it up just to remember the feeling and I have to say I'm sad to see it disappear. It had a very friendly feeling, easy to install, easy to maintain, never caused me any problems whatsoever - I haven't used it recently, but there were times when I used it on a daily basis for months in a row.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.




