Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2007 21:55 UTC
OpenStep, GNUstep Gorm 1.2.1 has been released. "Gorm (Graphical Object Relationship Modeller) is meant to be the counter part to NeXT's Interface Builder. With Gorm designing tough and complex graphical interfaces for your applications can easy and quickly be done using drag & drop, powerful inspectors and teamwork with ProjectCenter."
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Gorm
by Seth Quarrier on Wed 9th May 2007 23:14 UTC
Seth Quarrier
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2005-11-13

Kudos for Gregory Casamento keeping Gorm improving, Gorm is a really neat tool and a cornerstone for GNUstep. It is too bad that ProjectCenter doesn't improve at the rate that Gorm does.

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RE: Gorm
by Babi Asu on Thu 10th May 2007 04:29 UTC in reply to "Gorm"
Babi Asu Member since:
2006-02-11

Please enlighten me, is gnustep really used for building serious application? With interface like WindowMaker, I doubt it will be popular in linux. Last time I tried in windows, it's full of problems to compile and run an application.

I like objective-c and nextstep platform very much, but currently I think only macosx-cocoa get it right.

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RE[2]: Gorm
by ChrisV on Thu 10th May 2007 10:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Gorm"
ChrisV Member since:
2006-11-13

Window Maker has nothing to do with GNUstep, except that it kinda looks identical, and is the so-called preferred window manager. However, it doesn't make USE of GNUstep.

That said, yes, there are a couple of serious applications. GNUMail is one of them. Another one would be Adun ( http://193.146.190.210:8080/Adun ).

For a reasonable up-to-date list of applications, take a look at http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Category:Applications

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RE[2]: Gorm
by dylansmrjones on Thu 10th May 2007 13:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Gorm"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

GNUstep on Windows is rather problematic ATM. GNUstep on Posix-compatible platforms is however a completely different issue.

And yes. There is several serious applications written with GNUstep.

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RE[2]: Gorm
by Replaced on Sun 13th May 2007 20:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Gorm"
Replaced Member since:
2007-05-06

Gnustep can be very good looking if you use the new Nesedah theme, the theme also have a gtk2 port on xfce-look.org, so you can use gtk and gnustep with the same look and feel.

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code generation and everything?
by modmans2ndcoming on Wed 9th May 2007 23:59 UTC
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2005-11-09

Is it a true rad tool or do you have to make all the event classes and parameter setting in code yourself?

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RE: code generation and everything?
by ChrisV on Thu 10th May 2007 10:16 UTC in reply to "code generation and everything?"
ChrisV Member since:
2006-11-13

It is.

You do not have to make all the event classes or parameter settings in your code, though you are of course free to modify them.

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No thanks.
by Maciek on Fri 11th May 2007 04:33 UTC
Maciek
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2005-11-15

Heh. Can't we all stick to the standardized world of GTK and QT in modern Linux GUI design? Things have been going great consistency-wise lately, and I'd hate to see something like this relic from the nineties come back to haunt my desktop.

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RE: No thanks.
by evangs on Fri 11th May 2007 06:45 UTC in reply to "No thanks."
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

1) GNUStep doesn't just run on Linux.
2) Calling GNUStep a relic while implying that GTK is modern is just ... laughable.
3) Objective-C and the GNUStep/Cocoa framework provide an interesting alternative to standard C/C++ frameworks.

On a side note, they really need to make GNUStep more accessible to normal users. More Cocoa compatibility wouldn't hurt either.

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RE: No thanks.
by ChrisV on Fri 11th May 2007 07:08 UTC in reply to "No thanks."
ChrisV Member since:
2006-11-13

Standardized? GTK? You GOT to be joking.

And speaking of a 'modern' design, running GNUstep off a P3-550 with 128M Ram is a breeze. Don't even think of launching KDE on that box. It will crawl to a halt in just a few seconds...

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Not to mention internationalization ....
by dindin on Fri 11th May 2007 13:01 UTC
dindin
Member since:
2006-03-29

I have tried using GnuStep before but it is hopeless in displaying foreign language text, especially Unicode Glyph composition. Hope they remedy this soon. Maybe like they ported their backend to Cairo, they can also adopt Pango for this.

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ChrisV Member since:
2006-11-13

Maybe like they ported their backend to Cairo, they can also adopt Pango for this.


A Cairo-based backend already exists.

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what's wrong with
by matthekc on Fri 11th May 2007 13:19 UTC
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2006-10-28

.net (sarcasm) ;)

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