Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd May 2007 21:48 UTC
Window Managers Dwm 4.1 has been released. "dwm is a dynamic window manager for X. It manages windows in tiled and floating layouts. Either layout can be applied dynamically, optimizing the environment for the application in use and the task performed. It is the little brother of wmii."
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Hmm...
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Tue 22nd May 2007 22:30 UTC
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Im thinking that something like either dwm or wmii with the right kind of "apps" to handle the file work could work equally well as a desktop or a portable gui. Just make sure that its designed for fingers first...

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RE: Hmm...
by broken_symlink (2.68) on Tue 22nd May 2007 22:36 UTC in reply to "Hmm..."
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i'm using wmii on netbsd/hpcmips with a clio 1050. the system has a touchscreen that works in netbsd and is calibrated. after about a week of compiling apps it has turned out to be a very useful system. i installed irssi, naim, elinks with x11 stuff, gv, and aterm for some nice transparency. i've also installed ruby and am working on emacs21 and clisp, so i can use the system for development. wmii is not bad. very lightweight. when i start building a couple of packages at the same time though it will lag, but hey it beats carrying around a full laptop.

RE: Hmm...
by jessta (3.76) on Wed 23rd May 2007 06:45 UTC in reply to "Hmm..."
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I've been using dwm for the past 3 months.
I really like it.
What to you mean by "right kind of "apps" to handle the file work"?
I use xterm to do file managing.

RE[2]: Hmm...
by marafaka (2.08) on Wed 23rd May 2007 09:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Hmm..."
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I still use WMI on all my computers (except servers), as I can remove all the menus and borders and it works fine with Thunderbird, of which I'm not exactly sure when I'll toss it (I mean toss one app and have to install couple others on couple other computers?! I'll rather forget about email!).

Though the DWM screenshot with Gimp looks fine and I'll give it another ride sooner or later.

PS: Nice piece Thom, I bet your music taste is getting better too ;)

RE[2]: Hmm...
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Wed 23rd May 2007 10:42 UTC in reply to "RE: Hmm..."
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you can say i have a interesting in going a bit kparts. so as to go away from individual programs, and focus on the tasks the user wants to do.

want to create a new file? more often then not people first fire up the app, make the file and then save it, resulting in some dialog.

instead i would like to have them find where they want to save it, select "new file (type)", the window morph into the editor and your on your way.

yes, i know there are areas of use where something like this falls flat. but right now its just a rough idea...

RE[3]: Hmm...
by marafaka (2.08) on Wed 23rd May 2007 10:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Hmm..."
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So you basically use computer to create files? Well, I use it to communicate with people, organize, archive media, create art etc. But if you like files then you will like WMII too - you have one window for one file there.

RE[4]: Hmm...
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Wed 23rd May 2007 20:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Hmm..."
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create art? sounds like creating a file to me, as said art will most likely be represented by a file when stored.

communicate with people is one of those things that at present may not properly fit under my thinking.

note however that this is not something out of the blue. look at plan 9, where everything is a object/file...

my thinking is that instead of having distinct programs to do distinct tasks, the interface would morph depending on what your working on. the buttons and menus available to you would depend on what kind of object/file that are at any moment active...

RE[3]: Hmm...
by jessta (3.76) on Wed 23rd May 2007 12:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Hmm..."
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Files are pointless abstractions.
What you want is data.

Pipes is where it's at. Plumbing with pipes.

Its very nice but it is just better...
by eol_of_urnst (1.6) on Wed 23rd May 2007 12:26 UTC
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... to use Plan 9 :-D
(Let the flames roll)

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Prefer Turing machines myself..

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Yeah, have one installed here but hate the GUI - too stylish and mousy. Is there DWM for Plan9 ?:)

elitist?
by parentaladvisory (2.68) on Wed 23rd May 2007 14:49 UTC
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From their website


Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions.


Well, what on earth makes people think that the Linux community is hostile to newcomers, with RTFM and whatnot ;)

RE: elitist?
by marafaka (2.08) on Wed 23rd May 2007 16:26 UTC in reply to "elitist?"
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It helps the developers, as it says, plus it helps hacker-wannabes from disappointments. After 10 years of life behind the screen they're not that much disappointed when they finally put their shiny WIMP where it belongs ;)

Oh, and what does it have to do with the Linux kernel? Maybe you mean GNU/Linux? Nothing again.

Edited 2007-05-23 16:39

RE[2]: elitist?
by parentaladvisory (2.68) on Wed 23rd May 2007 18:33 UTC in reply to "RE: elitist?"
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Oh, and what does it have to do with the Linux kernel? Maybe you mean GNU/Linux? Nothing again.


Yeah I meant GNU/Linux as everyone else who writes "linux".

RE: elitist?
by Soulbender (2.56) on Thu 24th May 2007 03:34 UTC in reply to "elitist?"
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"Well, what on earth makes people think that the Linux community is hostile to newcomers, with RTFM and whatnot ;) "

Ah yes, because nothing is more accurate then judging an entire worldwide community based on the opinions of one developer of one small project.
I guess what we can learn from this is that all Windows users are prejudicial morons.

I don't get it
by walterbyrd (3.8) on Thu 24th May 2007 01:50 UTC
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What is different about it? What is special about it? Where are the screenshots? Why does it suck less? Why are most posters here not ever discussing it?