Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Jun 2007 16:07 UTC, submitted by kenden
X11, Window Managers The merger between compiz and Beryl now has a name: Compiz Fusion. "Our previous attempts to select a project name have not gone well. We tried a poll but the names in the poll were not pre-qualified to determine if they were usable and the 'winning' name was also a strongly disliked name. Kristian and I each proposed a plan to select a name, but that effort got sidetracked by a massive flame war on the mailing list. While our community has some democratic features, ultimately it is a meritocracy and the people who contribute the most value have the most say. So in the end a decision was made by the majority of the people who have contributed the most."
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fusion
by flojlg on Thu 21st Jun 2007 16:19 UTC
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2007-01-11

great name: can be taken or understood on different levels;
I am using it actualy on an Ubuntu 'box' and despite some bug and missing some loved plugins (3d by exemple) the new compiz-beryl children seems well born.
Great again and thd of thanks to trevinio for sharing it's compils ...*
Just a, maybe, usefull add, the new site is here:
http://www.opencompositing.org/

Edited 2007-06-21 16:34

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RE: fusion
by thecas on Thu 21st Jun 2007 19:19 UTC in reply to "fusion"
thecas Member since:
2006-03-14

Just a, maybe, usefull add, the new site is here:
http://www.opencompositing.org/


I think this is also just temporarily. It seems logical to me that they will build a new site on compiz-fusion.org

Edited 2007-06-21 19:19

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RE: fusion
by Xaero_Vincent on Thu 21st Jun 2007 21:17 UTC in reply to "fusion"
Xaero_Vincent Member since:
2006-08-18

When Gnome and KDE get their own native compositing engines, who will want Compiz?

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RE[2]: fusion
by abraxas on Thu 21st Jun 2007 23:02 UTC in reply to "RE: fusion"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

When Gnome and KDE get their own native compositing engines, who will want Compiz?

Perhaps someone who wants all of those effects. GNOME will probably not offer many plugins because of their focus on simplicity. Furthermore compiz already has a large community with a lot of plugins and users.

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RE[3]: fusion
by zerohalo on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 08:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: fusion"
zerohalo Member since:
2005-07-26

Why invest developers' time re-inventing the wheel? Gnome should just bundle Compiz Fusion, only including a few plugins by default (in keeping with their "less is more" philosophy), and then allow the user to add more or turn on more features if they want.

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RE[2]: fusion
by Lunitik on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 18:32 UTC in reply to "RE: fusion"
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

I've actually heard talk that they're thinking more about replacing Metacity with Compiz rather than putting this stuff into Metacity...

Main show stopper right now is that Compiz isn't a very complete window manager - no window snapping being the most obvious of the downfalls... when that is done, I'd expect Compiz to replace Metacity.

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RE[3]: fusion
by adamk on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 20:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: fusion"
adamk Member since:
2005-07-08

There's a "snapping windows" plugin available in fusion now.

Adam

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RE[3]: fusion
by bsharitt on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 15:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: fusion"
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2005-07-07

I wouldn't be surprised to see them replace Metacity with Compiz. Isn't that how Metacity came to be, a Gnome compatible window manager that was better than the old one?

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Good lucky
by JrezIN on Thu 21st Jun 2007 16:30 UTC
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2005-06-29

I have nothing against this new name... actually, it's very fitting to the project IMHO.

I wish good luck to the project and hope everyone who contributed to beryl somehow continue to contribute to it with its new face, as contributing to the community is much more important than names and, ultimately, politics.

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What about VMWare?
by mkools on Thu 21st Jun 2007 16:45 UTC
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2005-10-11

There's already VMWare Fusion?

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RE: What about VMWare?
by elanthis on Thu 21st Jun 2007 16:58 UTC in reply to "What about VMWare?"
elanthis Member since:
2007-02-17

Good thing that "VMWare Fusion" starts with "VMWare" and not "Compiz" like "Compiz Fusion" does.

Although, you're right... someone might confuse Compiz Fusion with Denny's "Fruit Fusion" line of drinks. Oh noes!

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RE[2]: What about VMWare?
by hobgoblin on Thu 21st Jun 2007 18:53 UTC in reply to "RE: What about VMWare?"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

hmm, if they manage to do that, i wonder how they would vote of bin laden was listed as a candidate for us president...

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RE[2]: What about VMWare?
by jbrader on Sat 23rd Jun 2007 20:28 UTC in reply to "RE: What about VMWare?"
jbrader Member since:
2005-11-12

And let us not forget nuclear fusion.

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RE: What about VMWare?
by yanik on Thu 21st Jun 2007 16:59 UTC in reply to "What about VMWare?"
yanik Member since:
2005-07-13

I don't see any problems with that.

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RE: What about VMWare?
by sbergman27 on Thu 21st Jun 2007 19:44 UTC in reply to "What about VMWare?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""
There's already VMWare Fusion?
"""

Since they are completely different products, unlikely to be confused, they should be fine from both a trademark law and a community perspective. I don't really see a problem.

IBPhoenix is the only entity I can think of who might raise a stink over it, if they had a project named "Fusion". And so far as I know, they don't.

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Nice movie
by maxx_730 on Thu 21st Jun 2007 17:02 UTC
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2005-12-14

Heres a nice movie showing off some of the (new) features that will be in the first release of Compiz-Fusion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w

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RE: Nice movie
by flojlg on Thu 21st Jun 2007 17:15 UTC in reply to "Nice movie"
flojlg Member since:
2007-01-11

and nice music too!
lol

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RE: Nice movie
by John Nilsson on Thu 21st Jun 2007 22:23 UTC in reply to "Nice movie"
John Nilsson Member since:
2005-07-06

Hmm, that AddHelper plug-in looks sweet. Does that mean I've got ADD? ;)

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Or the Ford Fusion or the Gilette Fusion
by stodge on Thu 21st Jun 2007 17:08 UTC
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2005-09-08

Or the Ford Fusion or the Gilette Fusion. Pick something else!

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diskinetic Member since:
2005-12-09

Feisty Fusion, perhaps?

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More name jokes...
by nlvivar on Thu 21st Jun 2007 17:49 UTC
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2007-06-21

Don't forget nuclear fusion.

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Another fusion
by bolomkxxviii on Thu 21st Jun 2007 18:08 UTC
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2006-05-19

A famous fusion...Brundlefly!

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great
by diegoviola on Thu 21st Jun 2007 18:23 UTC
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2006-08-15

Great name, can't wait for a release, this is going to rock!

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good name
by REMF on Thu 21st Jun 2007 18:24 UTC
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2006-02-05

but when does the first compiz fusion code get released?

and is it based on the compiz 0.5 development code?

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hehe
by diegoviola on Thu 21st Jun 2007 19:11 UTC
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2006-08-15

cant wait for fusion and kde4 to be out

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RE: hehe
by juno_106 on Sun 24th Jun 2007 02:57 UTC in reply to "hehe"
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2007-06-24

The only thing I don't like is the "cube" effect.

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RE[2]: hehe
by adamk on Sun 24th Jun 2007 11:49 UTC in reply to "RE: hehe"
adamk Member since:
2005-07-08

So don't use it. You can switch to the desktop plane or the desktop wall.

Adam

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Compiz?
by Colonel Panic on Thu 21st Jun 2007 19:21 UTC
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2005-07-28

If they get rid of "compiz" I think it would be better for the project. We in the open-source community have a lot of, well weird and interesting names and we get used to them when we see them in print.
BUT, please say "compiz" a couple times out loud to another human being and it sounds rather silly.

Just my 2 cents-I rather liked "Beryl"

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RE: Compiz?
by Schmeggma on Thu 21st Jun 2007 19:46 UTC in reply to "Compiz?"
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2006-01-14

I always liked the name "Compiz".. I would think the kind of people who would be confused/turned off by an unfamiliar sounding name are probably the kind of people who don't need to know what the window manager on their computer is called anyway.

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RE: Compiz?
by Moochman on Thu 21st Jun 2007 20:15 UTC in reply to "Compiz?"
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2005-07-06

I think Compiz is a much more descriptive-sounding name--it makes it clear that it has something to do with compositing. Beryl has a certain ring to it but ultimately brings to mind the metal beryllium rather than anything to do with compositing.

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RE: Compiz?
by butters on Thu 21st Jun 2007 21:18 UTC in reply to "Compiz?"
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2005-07-08

What we have here is a Compiz fork re-merging with Compiz. It should be called... Compiz. There is no "fusion" going on. It's more like "reconciliation." But that's an incredibly bad name.

If the Beryl folks are so adamant about the resulting name not being simply Compiz, but are willing to accept an extension of that name, then there are better extensions than Fusion. Maybe something that reflects the nature of the project. How about... Compiz FX? Or simply... FX?

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RE[2]: Compiz?
by silix on Thu 21st Jun 2007 21:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Compiz?"
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2006-03-01

What we have here is a Compiz fork re-merging with Compiz. It should be called... Compiz. There is no "fusion" going on. It's more like "reconciliation." But that's an incredibly bad name.

what about "Reunion" then?
uhm, perhaps it sounds a bit too FF7AC-ish, but anyway ... :

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RE[2]: Compiz?
by sbergman27 on Thu 21st Jun 2007 22:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Compiz?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""
How about... Compiz FX? Or simply... FX?
"""

How about "Compositing Window Manager"?

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RE[2]: Compiz?
by elsewhere on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 05:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Compiz?"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

What we have here is a Compiz fork re-merging with Compiz. It should be called... Compiz. There is no "fusion" going on. It's more like "reconciliation." But that's an incredibly bad name.


Beryl was fork of compiz, but many of the plugins for beryl were then ported back to compiz. Fusion isn't a bad name, since that's effectively what is happening anyways. ;)

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RE: Compiz?
by plague on Thu 21st Jun 2007 22:40 UTC in reply to "Compiz?"
plague Member since:
2006-05-08

I rather like the Compiz name, and it doesn't sound silly.
Actually, here in sweden, we have a very similar word, kompis, that is pronounced the same and means friend/buddy.
What's so silly about that? ;)

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Solid sounding name
by Dr-ROX on Thu 21st Jun 2007 20:49 UTC
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2006-01-03

Compiz Fusion. This sounds solid and is catchy/easy memorable.

Browser: Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.0.8462/20; U; en)

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Who Cares?
by Obscurus on Thu 21st Jun 2007 22:57 UTC
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2006-04-20

For most users, the name of something that should be seamlessly integrated into whatever distro it winds up in is largely irrelevant. This sort of functionality should not be seen as a separate application that needs a catchy name. Frankly, I think it would be better for the major DEs (Gnome, KDE, XFCE) to use whatever code works from Compiz et al and tightly integrate it, and I really don't see Compiz Fusion lasting very long once the DEs have a good compositing solution built-in.

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less is more
by buff on Thu 21st Jun 2007 23:08 UTC
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2005-11-12

GNOME will probably not offer many plugins because of their focus on simplicity.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this. I like the Gnome mantra of less is more. It doesn't get in your way and it is not distracting. Also less eye candy gives you better performance.

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Who gives a fu__ what the name is?
by Anon on Fri 22nd Jun 2007 12:44 UTC
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2006-01-02

Just show me the CODE.

For all I care it could be called 'Window Manager'.

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MattPie Member since:
2006-04-18

For all I care it could be called 'Window Manager'.

Actually, we could call it "The Window Manager", or "twm" for short. Oh wait... ;)

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