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They are working on basic OS functionality still, I think. Then they can start porting over third-party software.

And 'simply' port over Java? It's much to big for 'simply'... many of the biggest ports, unfortunately, may have to wait until after SkyOS goes commercial.

"(not simple i know)"

I guess you missed that part then

Then let me be the first to say that Linux is better and so is open source. Since Linux is open source, it will always get more attention from programmers, than any proprietery software. Everyone will have the opportunity to work on and learn from it. You can always fork it and roll your own if you don't like the way the project is going. We schould also learn from the prominent example proprietary software has taught us. Why can't I run photoshop on linux/beos/your favorite os. Why do I have to run a buggy os( http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/06/22/139247.shtml ) to run my games. This problem would not be an issue if either windows or photoshop were open source. Since I am a programmer, i could contribute and port photoshop or create a windows layer and run it on top of any os I choose. Why do I have to let some CEO shove down my throat a new os, that I dont't need, jut to use newer software (DX10), it feels like a lock-in to me. I dont't mind paying for software, but I am also spoiled by open source and expect the source code with the product I buy.

To sky os authors: Today are not 90's and software ecology has changed very much. How are you supposed to compete against software that is free, has more features and is more advanced than yours. Even if you port open source application, why should people run the same applications on skyos opposed for example linux/bsd/windows. SkyOS is not as well designed as haiku or as innovative as plan-9, so the great question is: why bother?

Edited 2007-06-22 15:59

That's called being "osnews'd"

Call me old fashioned, but I preferred it when it was called "slashdotted" regardless if it had anything to do with slashdot or not. Now we have "dugg" and woe-betide "reddited" and "farked" >.O

Don't forget "wanged" (penny arcade)

But yeah, slashdotted is the classic

Yeah, Robert is one *GREAT* developer. Does he sleep???!

I fail to see how the title is misleading.
The beta centre is open for anyone to join (albiet for a small one off fee to non-developers).

It's for a certain team only (whatever the way is to become a member of the team), it's not available for everyone. That's a small difference, but still is difference.

But it's still available. Misleading you would be to say it's available to you when it wasn't. You completely missed my point when I said /ANYONE/ can become a member of thier team. It only costs $30 and the fee even entitles you too the full final product when it's realsed.

It really isn't any different to articles about Haiku being available or even article announcing Windows Service packs when not everybody has Windows installed to download the service pack on.

Sorry, Laurence, I really did not want to go into this kind of word-by-word thing. All I said is that it was not mentioned that the access was limited, so one could think (just like I did) that it was available for him/her, but it was not. (Anyway, unfortunetaly, 30$ is not something that means nothing for everyone, PayPal is not available everywhere, etc.).
At last it was misleading for me for a minute before I realised what the situation was.

But really, you are also right, it's published, so it's available for everyone fitting for the requirements.

But appending a few words (like "for the beta testers") to the title costs nothing and it would be more clear.

Sorry for going in to this little thing so deep.

Since when does "Available" equal "Available for free"?

Modded up for informative, and most replies modded down for 'spam or advertisements' because I too happily clicked the link thinking I'd finally be able to see what the fuss was about only to discover there was no link for (non Beta Center people who have prepaid for the privilege) to try out the system.

I will keep modding those types of comments as spam or advertisements until there is a beta to try that doesn't require me to fork out cash to do free Quality Assurance work.

--bornagainpenguin (tired of the ads)

How is a SkyOS news any different from a Windows news?
Only the number of users is different, but that doesn't change the fact they you also have to pay for Windows, and if you don't, the Windows news is just as irrelevant as the SkyOS news.

If you think the SkyOS news is irrelevant, because you don't have SkyOS, then why do you read it anyway?

As long as you also mod down anyone who says "Vista is now available" or "Leopard is now available" as an ad, OK.

I usually do!

--bornagainpenguin

You still can see what all the fuss is about. You just need to paypal in a pittance.

"pittance"

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Face it, not everyone on this site has thirty dollars to blow on software that may or may not ever see public release. To some of us the "pittance" of thirty dollars is our entire week's spendable income--and we tend to find somewhat more important things to do with it...like say eating?

Just because we don't have thirty dollars to toss away at the feet of the vaporware* programmer of the month doesn't make us less geeky, or less interested in Alternate OSes. It just makes us a little more cagey about where our money goes. Given recent events (Zeta anyone?) I'd think more people would have developed an appreciation for such caution...

--bornagainpenguin

*It's been HOW long exactly since this OS went version 5.0 Beta without a public release? Umm... yeah, vaporware seems to fit...

Face it, not everyone on this site has thirty dollars to blow on software that may or may not ever see public release. To some of us the "pittance" of thirty dollars is our entire week's spendable income--and we tend to find somewhat more important things to do with it...like say eating?

If you only have $30 a week in income, that's not even $1600 a year. Naturally, at that level, you couldn't afford SkyOS.

And if your budget doesn't set aside the cost of food as untouchable... *shakes head*

It's been HOW long exactly since this OS went version 5.0 Beta without a public release? Umm... yeah, vaporware seems to fit...

I think by 'public' you mean 'free'. I've spent my $30 and it's running on my machine now. Heck, if I could get some closed-source alternatives to the open-source shovelware on the retail version (things like Firefox, GRUB, CUPS, et al), I could probably switch to it as my main OS.

As soon as it gets to that point, I'll be switching over for a 30-day marathon to see if I can do everything I want to do in it. And I'll write up the results here.

The new C++ API is not a wrapper but a complete new object orientated implementation of the GUI. (Similar to QT from the developers point of view).
For system functions like Desktop Communication, Device Access, Network, etc. it uses the same native libraries as the old API did.

Edited 2007-06-22 16:48

How about the swap? Is it implemented yet? If not, will it be soon?

Edited 2007-06-22 16:56

Know what's funny about that? That skin was the winner of a contest held right here on OSNews. It sure looked good then but hasn't aged very well.

@Almafeta

SkyOS is beta software (imo, more like pre-alpha), and still can't even run on the most basic of hardware.

Edited 2007-06-30 21:41