Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 25th Jul 2007 22:52 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless PureMobile sent us in for a review one of Nokia's newest and most powerful handsets: the E90. The E90 is a Communicator-class device and very popular among businessmen, but also among system administrators too (one of our friends, sysadmin at Google, is using Nokia's qwerty/wifi devices specifically for SSH access). Read on for our review of the impressive E90.
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Really worth $1000?
by TrueDis on Thu 26th Jul 2007 00:38 UTC
TrueDis
Member since:
2007-06-19

It sounds good, but it's over $1000 @ PureMobile. I can't imagine it's good enough to justify that...

Reply Score: 2

Video Quality
by kwag on Thu 26th Jul 2007 04:13 UTC
kwag
Member since:
2006-08-31

That MP4 video clip quality is crap!
I would expect WAY better quality for a $1000+ phone!

Reply Score: 5

RE: Video Quality
by Eugenia on Thu 26th Jul 2007 04:30 UTC in reply to "Video Quality"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

The video quality is pretty good for a cellphone. There are very few phones that do VGA video recording, and the ones that do, don't do it for more than 15 fps. The E90 grabs 24fps.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Video Quality
by kwag on Thu 26th Jul 2007 04:55 UTC in reply to "RE: Video Quality"
kwag Member since:
2006-08-31

Eugenia,

For a 640x480 video, at a stream bitrate of ~2,400BPS (3,000 peak!), that's VERY aweful quality (for the price) ;)

Reply Score: 4

RE[3]: Video Quality
by Eugenia on Thu 26th Jul 2007 05:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Video Quality"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

The bitrate is usually the same percentage for all phones. It's always mjpeg you see. Also, as you saw, picture quality is not bad, which means that video quality might get better with upcoming firmware upgrades.

Reply Score: 1

want one
by netpython on Thu 26th Jul 2007 04:27 UTC
netpython
Member since:
2005-07-06

Nice smart phone with a distinctive look. want one plz :-)

Reply Score: 2

I guess Ballmer was wrong.
by exigentsky on Thu 26th Jul 2007 05:56 UTC
exigentsky
Member since:
2005-07-09

I remember when Ballmer commented that "That is the most expensive phone in the world!" regarding the iPhone. See the clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo&eurl= Honestly, the E90 does seem like a very nice phone, but I don't see anything that revolutionary, anything to justify $1,084 (unlocked finally!). Although, I don't even have an iPhone, so I'm probably a bit more cautious than most technophiles. Maybe someone can try and convince me.

Edited 2007-07-26 06:16

Reply Score: 2

RE: I guess Ballmer was wrong.
by Eugenia on Thu 26th Jul 2007 06:14 UTC in reply to "I guess Ballmer was wrong."
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

Being unlocked is a feature btw. I would never, as long as I live, get a locked phone. ;)

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: I guess Ballmer was wrong.
by bsharitt on Thu 26th Jul 2007 07:09 UTC in reply to "RE: I guess Ballmer was wrong."
bsharitt Member since:
2005-07-07

I would get a locked phone well before I paid over a $1000 for a phone. What I will pay for is small(but not too small) WiFi device for IM, mail, web, along with some PDAish media functionality, but I don't really want a phone to do that. The Nokia N800 looks interesting, but isn't quite there yet, and while the iPhone looks nice I want the iPhone without the phone, and maybe a slightly larger screen.

Reply Score: 2

vs E70
by elanthis on Thu 26th Jul 2007 07:35 UTC
elanthis
Member since:
2007-02-17

How does this compare to the E70, which also has a nice keyboard and SSH features?

I won't buy either - they don't work with Verizon - but if the E90 looks neat but is too pricey, the E70 might be a nicer alternative for some.

Reply Score: 1

RE: vs E70
by Eugenia on Thu 26th Jul 2007 07:57 UTC in reply to "vs E70"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

The E70 is not quad-band, so if you travel a lot, it's not a great solution. More over, the E70 runs an older version of the OS, and it's not supported via firmware upgrade anymore (it only had 2 firmware upgrades, its life was short). Changing from landscape to portrait was taking up to 3 seconds, while it's instantaneous between the two screens on the E90.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: vs E70
by ChiliJ on Thu 26th Jul 2007 21:16 UTC in reply to "RE: vs E70"
ChiliJ Member since:
2005-08-12

I have the Nokia e70. While I love the phone, I often get problems with the RAM. I hit the "Memory Full" message all the time for a lot of sites. Does the e90 have better RAM memory?

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RE[3]: vs E70
by Eugenia on Thu 26th Jul 2007 21:44 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: vs E70"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

Yes, it is has 128 MBs of RAM instead of 64. I have heard about the "memory full" problem on the E70 btw. It was fixed on future upgrades for most of the other 3.0 phones, but the E70 only had few firmware upgrades.

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RE: vs E70
by sappyvcv on Thu 26th Jul 2007 13:29 UTC in reply to "vs E70"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

What Eugenia said.. and the fact that it's harder to find ;) I ordered one but the site hasn't shipped it yet and it's been 5 days. It's not easy to find cheap.

Reply Score: 2

and Vs HTC Advantage?
by Vide on Thu 26th Jul 2007 09:24 UTC
Vide
Member since:
2006-02-17

Eugenia, did you try HTC Advantage? I'm a sysadmin looking for something to replace my current Blackberry, the Advantage seems quite nice with its giant TFT, and feature and price wise it's comparable to the E90 (better for the 8GB HD and worst for the OS ;) )

Reply Score: 1

RE: and Vs HTC Advantage?
by Eugenia on Thu 26th Jul 2007 10:09 UTC in reply to "and Vs HTC Advantage?"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I don't have any HTC devices except the QTek 9100. However, AFAIK, there is no *stable* SSH client for Windows Mobile. There are 4-5 of them out there, but none working well. More over, there is no good, stable VoIP SIP client for WinMob either. So if you ware interested just in SSH and VoIP, the E90 is a better choice. If you are interested in lots and lots of apps and UI flexibility, then the WinMob is a better choice.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: and Vs HTC Advantage?
by cromo on Thu 26th Jul 2007 12:19 UTC in reply to "RE: and Vs HTC Advantage?"
cromo Member since:
2006-06-17

Recently announced HTC Kaiser seems to be much more interesting. Honestly, I am a big fan of Symbian and using Nokia N80 myself, but this time I must confess that Kaiser running Windows Mobile 6 is likely to be much more proffesional solution.
Also regarding SSH and VOiP: Windows Mobile 6 comes with VOiP integrated. Also, there are few more SSH applications for WM, some of them featuring port forwarding which none of the AFIK two available Symbian ssh clients can do.

http://www.codebrowser.org/index.php - zaTunnel and zaTelnet. haven't used them, but they seem to be actively developed so might be worth a try.

Edited 2007-07-26 12:20

Reply Score: 1

E61i
by turrini on Thu 26th Jul 2007 15:23 UTC
turrini
Member since:
2006-10-31

Size really doesn't matter to me.

I love Nokia E61i, it really worth the price, IMHO.

Reply Score: 1

Series 60 and Linux
by apalacheno on Fri 27th Jul 2007 07:03 UTC
apalacheno
Member since:
2007-07-27

Hey,
I'm curious on how compatible the whole Series 60 is with Linux. Is it e.g. possible to sync contacts and calendars? Is it possible to read sms messages from the phone and to access the phone's file system or flash cards?

Cheers,
apalacheno

Reply Score: 1

RE: Series 60 and Linux
by Eugenia on Fri 27th Jul 2007 19:42 UTC in reply to "Series 60 and Linux"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I don't think so, but I think it has SyncML support.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Series 60 and Linux
by apalacheno on Sun 29th Jul 2007 08:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Series 60 and Linux"
apalacheno Member since:
2007-07-27

Maybe take this aspect in future reviews into consideration?
Smart gadgets are no longer stand-alone devices, but (this is even more true for Symbian) are built to be interoperable with computers, so IMO this is an important feature, in particular for us Linux enthusiasts.

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RE: Series 60 and Linux
by DrAk0 on Sun 29th Jul 2007 17:46 UTC in reply to "Series 60 and Linux"
DrAk0 Member since:
2006-08-15

they are full compatible, I use my E65 (S60 3rd) to sync PIM with Evolution, works great with contacts (even with pictures both sides), calendar entries and task, better even than my old palm. I can also send .txt and recieve it as a note on the phone and send as a SMS, MMS or an EMAIL, is perfect the integration with linux and a bluetooth device (never tried with the cable).

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260676

there are some instruction how to do that, however, the author says its only for contacts but works for everything .

Reply Score: 1