Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 16th Aug 2007 17:51 UTC, submitted by jeanmarc
OSNews, Generic OSes "The HelenOS project is an effort to develop a complete and usable modern operating system, yet offering room for experimenting and research. HelenOS uses its own microkernel written from scratch and supports SMP, multitasking and multithreading on both 32-bit and 64-bit, little-endian and big-endian processor architectures, among wich are AMD64/EM64T (x86-64), ARM, IA-32, IA-64 (Itanium), 32-bit MIPS, 32-bit PowerPC, SPARC V9 and Xen 3.0. Thanks to the relatively high number of supported architectures and suitable design, HelenOS is extremely-well portable."
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Never heard of it
by jeanmarc on Thu 16th Aug 2007 18:23 UTC
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2005-07-06

Well, i never heard about the HelenOS before today and i'am glad to see people still interested to develop an OS project from scratch.
Good luck guys !

Fresh air!
by Fransexy on Thu 16th Aug 2007 18:36 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-29

At last a new operating system written from scratch and not another unix variant, new fresh air for the world of operating systems
I hope that as is developed from scratch it not repeat the limitations and errors of current Operating systems

RE: Fresh air!
by diegocg on Thu 16th Aug 2007 18:47 UTC in reply to "Fresh air!"
diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

I also hope that it does repeat the successes of current operative systems - too often, people write new OS to "fix the problems of UNIX" and then they fall in the stupid error of avoiding everything that looks like Unix, even if it's good (and there're a lot of good things in unix).

That said, if a OS like Plan9 isn't getting mainstream, I very much doubt any other research OS will have better success.

Edited 2007-08-16 18:49

RE[2]: Fresh air!
by hobgoblin on Thu 16th Aug 2007 19:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Fresh air!"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

i kinda recall plan9 not being free (in both sense of the word) until recently. so im not surprised that it didnt go mainstream.

still, there seems to be more and more stuff from it showing up in linux. i recall reading about p9fs or whatever its called, and maybe that network protocol to.

Edited 2007-08-16 19:16

RE[3]: Fresh air!
by kaiwai on Thu 16th Aug 2007 20:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Fresh air!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

According to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs

Its opensource and released under the Lucent OpenSource Licence.

As for its lack there of success, it really hasn't marketed itself, its hardware support is lacking, and the availability of software is also lacking.

Edited 2007-08-16 21:01

RE[4]: Fresh air!
by axel on Thu 16th Aug 2007 22:09 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Fresh air!"
axel Member since:
2006-02-04

yes, now it is, but i wasn't until the late '90s-'00s that it became open/gratis.

RE[5]: Fresh air!
by kaiwai on Thu 16th Aug 2007 22:21 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Fresh air!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

True, but there needs to be a momentum started - but quite honestly I don't think computers in the traditional sense are all that exciting; the future is mobility, that is where the focus should be; we will still need operating systems like Solaris/Linux but the big money and focus will be on multifunctional devices like smart mobile phones etc.

RE[6]: Fresh air!
by hobgoblin on Thu 16th Aug 2007 23:49 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Fresh air!"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

and there you also find linux.

hell, i picked up a cheap nokia 770 "web tablet" not to long ago, running linux.

and here is a article about how linux came to appear on mobile phones:
http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2590177877.html

hell, im using pidgin (formerly gaim) as the im client on my 770. the same im client thats part of the gnome desktop iirc. to me that shows the power of open source, and the moldabillity of the linux "ecosystem".

when you have that kind of portability things get interesting to say the least ;)

RE[7]: Fresh air!
by Bahadir on Tue 21st Aug 2007 13:50 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Fresh air!"
Bahadir Member since:
2007-05-19

hell, im using pidgin (formerly gaim) as the im client on my 770. the same im client thats part of the gnome desktop iirc. to me that shows the power of open source, and the moldabillity of the linux "ecosystem".


Although perhaps it's molded a little too much.

Cool I guess
by Xaero_Vincent on Thu 16th Aug 2007 18:54 UTC
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Member since:
2006-08-18

There are plenty of "new" OSes not based on any others. This one looks interesting because its license is BSD.

We'll see how things come along.

Uhhh
by zizban on Thu 16th Aug 2007 20:52 UTC
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2005-07-06

This sounds like NetBSD with a microkernel.

just what Hurd needs!
by gehersh on Thu 16th Aug 2007 22:47 UTC
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2006-01-03

another microkernel :-)

RE: just what Hurd needs!
by sbergman27 on Fri 17th Aug 2007 17:00 UTC in reply to "just what Hurd needs! "
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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another microkernel :-)

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Let's spend a few years talking about whether we should port to it instead of developing anything. :-)

HelenOS question
by Almafeta on Thu 16th Aug 2007 23:39 UTC
Almafeta
Member since:
2007-02-22

Is the source code written in Greek?

*ducks and rolls*

Interesting little OS; I'll have to poke around after the move and see what can be done with it. There's a few GPL sections, but those can be easily solved.

Most of the interesting under-the-hood stuff is described here:

http://www.helenos.eu/doc/design/html.chunked/

v crazy
by losethos on Fri 17th Aug 2007 01:31 UTC
v yes
by twistys on Fri 17th Aug 2007 08:50 UTC