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But... is it intended to BE a smartphone? My general impression is that the RAZR^2 is, like the RAZR, primarily a fashion phone with a little bit of everything in there somewhere.
Yes, Motorola's new Linux phones (not the older ones) *are* intended to be smartphones, when the SDK is released next year. The new SDK will support all Linux phones from the V8 and later (again, not their older ones).
I don't want to be picky but if the phone tends to be a smartphone i would expect it to have wifi. I quite like the slick design though. Edited 2007-08-17 07:44
I understand that it is your personal opinion and I respect that, but since when does a phone require wifi to be considered a "true" smartphone? My Treo 650 has no wifi and yet I can go online anywhere I get a cellphone signal (which is anywhere I carry the phone) at near-DSL speeds. I don't have to wait until I'm near a hotspot, and while I do pay for that, it's cheap -- US$19.95/month -- and it's unlimited bandwidth.
I do feel that wifi would be a nice addition for the added speed boost at hotspots, but to me it's not worth buying a new phone and it certainly doesn't disqualify mine as a smartphone. Just the fact that I can run any number of palmOS apps qualifies it.
For that matter, I would say the Treos and Windows Mobile PDA/phones out there are more worthy of the title than any RAZR or even the iPhone -- at least until we get third-party app support for those. Edited 2007-08-17 10:32
I fancy the zaurus pda´s and allways have. Sometimes it´s nice to have anonymous access. And any hotspot in theory can provide just that. Anyway wifi is handy if you want to sync anywhere in the office and at home. I personally don't like bluetooth. You see the mileage may vary. The prize of the phone would held me back from buying though.
Is there any standart way to access the VT on this device?
Think printer scene from Office Space.
I've had the phone for several years, and it has been nothing short of a dismal experience. Bad enough that I would never even consider the RAZR2. Bad enough that I'd never even consider another Motorola period. Form trumped functionality, which is almost never a good thing.
Best of luck to them though w/ this new phone.
Haha, I know of only 1 person who has a Razr and actually likes it. The rest say it sucks. I don't own one, but if the opinions of the phone are so negative, I don't understand why it is so popular.
Like I said, form defeated functionality. People are more concerned about looking cool. Plus now most companies are giving them away for free.
And I HATE that. Luckily there are still companies that make items that put functionality over form...
Wow, yeah, that was worth a 0 rating !
What are your complaints about the RAZR? I'm using mine for over two years now, and the only thing that bothers me is that it's to easy to accidentally change the ring style.
"What are your complaints about the RAZR?"
-Been through 4 batteries...they are good for about 6 months then rapidly go downhill, i.e. I'll get maybe 30 minutes of talk time, or a day or 2 of standby.
-The phone randomly "white screens"...I don't know what else to call it. The phone freezes and restarts, usually in the middle of a call. Happens about 1-2 times a month, and has been doing this for about a year (never dropped it, and no water damage).
-More thoughts I had about a year and a half ago: http://jaysonknight.com/blog/archive/2006/04/14/Motorola-RAZR-V3-_2...
Perhaps mine was a lemon, but I think it was more related to the model Cingular was selling (some friends who have the Verizon version are a little happier, plus their phones seem much snappier). I have a work issued blackberry pearl now and could not be happier.
>Perhaps mine was a lemon,
Nah mine does that too ... moto sucks ....
Mine goes white screen too, and it's irritating cuz I can't bring it back easily, I turn it on and off several times until it finally starts to work.
It also has the least intuitive/functional interface among all cellphones that I had before, things that could be done with pressing 2~3 buttons require digging the menus on RAZR and you can't set shortcuts for everything.
RAZR's battery's half-life is 4 months btw.
The fact that I am on Rogers (AKA robbers) although not RAZR's fault, still worsens the experience.
On the plus side it looks good and it did survive couple of falls recently, but that's about it. Edited 2007-08-18 05:12
Interesting. I have never seen the white screen. Maybe a different firmware version? Mine's one of the earlier ones that don't have video recording functionality. And I'm still on the first battery, after two years.
..then wouldn't you think replacing the OS would be a positive move?
But I know what you mean. Sony have burnt me a couple of times, so I don't even consider buying their stuff anymore.
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Hahah, I see what you did there.
You sir, owe me a new keyboard because your post made me snarf my coffee all over my old one! XD
I don't care who you are, that's funny!
Exactly. If I'm going to drop that kind of change on a phone, it's NOT going to be a Moto-POS.
Nicely done though. I nearly shot coffee out my nose.
My Verizon accounts long past the required contract bondage.
A colleague let me test out his iPhone.
I'm waiting until this Fall when the latest Mac Pros are out and then I'm adding that and the iPhone/ATT for work/home.
You, my friend, are funny. You gave me the first laugh of the day
Looks like a nice phone and gets the job done for now but the future trend of phones will include a qwerty keyboard to make it easier for txt messaging and web browsing.
But I tend to avoid Motorola phones - the quality, receiption, everything about them is below par when compared to the likes of Samsung, Nokia, Alcatel, LG etc. etc.
I had no problem's with this phone's reception. I had with their older Linux phone, ROKR E2, but not this one.
Pardon, but what has that got to do with the price of fish? nothing.
The fact that Motorola has that amount of marketshare tells more about marketing than quality of product; christ, just look at iPod, a sub par product marketed to buggery and sucked down by the masses as innovative.
Does anyone know if this phone supports prepaid plans? I have pay-as-you-go via Cingular (ok fine AT&T) and I want to just be able to take the SIM card out and pop it in this new phone.
I'm just confused because when I shop online for phones they always put prepaid phones in a separate category away from all the others as if there's some technical distinction. Is there a difference?
No, there is not a difference. All unlocked GSM phones work with prepaid just fine.
So, at&t won't be selling the v8 (linux based), but the v9 (old OS based). However, will the unlocked v8 work with their network without issue or at least mostly without issue?
Yes, of course. How do you think I used it? Don't you see my screenshot saying "AT&T"?
I think the question is representative of the ungodly amount of control these companies have over us.
How restricted we are.
You can by a GSM phone unlocked and it will work with any GSM carrier. You do not need to have a phone "supported" in any way.
Pop in the sim. Network compatible with phone? Yes? Then it works?
See all the people that UnLock their iPhone just to use it with a different company...
Nice phone but, I'd rather have something like the Nokia E70:
An open OS would be nice, but usability comes first.
I just read through the review and I too have to say that I would rather choose E70. Atleast Symbian phones can run more than just Java apps. But well, I'm still happily using my Nokia 6630, no need to change yet
Was the headset mentioned (rather positively I might add) bluetooth? Wired?
Great to hear that t-mobile is getting the 2GB version which as far as I can tell is not available at the moment. Has anyone heard anything on the t-mobile timing?
The thing about 2GB: originally the V8 was supposed to have 2GB of memory, but becayse Motorola had a surplus of 512MB chips, they released a 512MB version first until those chips run out, then they'll release the 2GB version.
I have to admit, Im rather impressed with the quality of the photos taken with the phone. I was never really interested in cameras in phones but the quality is pretty good.
Also.....Calvin and Hobbes rule!
The main question is, after I have read the review. Should I buy this phone? I currently own a blackberry 8800, and I love it. I honestly respect people's opinions, after all, how will I know what's cool?
A really hot phone - but the no radio is bad and the no microSD is a definite show-stopper for me.
Has anyone on here played with one of the openmoko phones? I'm kind of interested in buying one of those.
It's open, and quad-band GSM, if I read it correctly.
Yes, I have a Neo1973. It is very much in development right now. I make calls from the shell. Any review at this point would probably frustrate the reviewer, unless they were also a developer and understood the possibilities of the future. Check back in a few months.
Just because it uses Linux doesn't mean I'd be willing to pay anywhere near $500 for it. I might pay $50 after some encouragement.
$500 can buy you a brand new desktop computer with a Core 2 Duo processor or even a fairly decent notebook. Any computer is a million times more useful than any phone and get this... you can even call people on their cell or land line phone from a computer, go figure.
...or, on the other hand, $500 could buy you several boxes of tin cans and lots and lots of string, then you can make calls without it costing you a cent! Brilliant!!
Still E90 is better when it comes to features.
Nokia should use FreeBSD ARM for that