Linked by David Adams on Mon 27th Aug 2007 03:47 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes The earliest OSNews articles and news postings have not been available online in many years, as they were mostly static HTML, and when we made the switch over to our v1 CMS, I just filed it away on my hard drive. But to celebrate our 10 year anniversary, let's take a peek at what was hot in the OS world in 1997. Visit our OSNews 1997 archive. We have some feature articles, opinion pieces, and a fascinating view of several days of daily news frozen in time (and chock full of dead links). Take some time to look it over. On an unrelated note, Read More if you are in, or have contacts in, the graphic design world and would like to help OSNews.
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CNet and Predictions
by linumax on Mon 27th Aug 2007 04:14 UTC
linumax
Member since:
2007-02-07

"C/net is exposing the future Betamaxes and 8 track tapes of the technology world in a column entitled "10 Technologies that Don't Stand a Chance." Judge for yourself. BTW, one of those doomed technologies is Java."

Some things never change, like CNet's predictions. ;)

RE: CNet and Predictions
by Johann Chua on Mon 27th Aug 2007 05:13 UTC in reply to "CNet and Predictions"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

Beta tapes are still around for pro use: Betacam, Betacam SP, Digital Betacam. So what if Betamax is dead?

RE[2]: CNet and Predictions
by raver31 on Mon 27th Aug 2007 08:47 UTC in reply to "RE: CNet and Predictions"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

I loved the quality of Betamax tapes in comparison to VHS and S-VHS.

Nowadays however, they will not make me fall into the trap of buying 2 standards... HD-DVD or BluRay ? pffff

keep them, my dvd/divx player is good enough for me.

RE[3]: CNet and Predictions
by Johann Chua on Mon 27th Aug 2007 09:44 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: CNet and Predictions"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

I want to get The Wings of Honneamise on DVD.

Unfortunately, the upcoming re-release from Bandai Visual USA only bundles the DVD with the Blu-ray and HD-DVD editions, not as a stand-alone. That and using Japanese price levels ($80) for the U.S. market makes me a bit leary, not to mention the cost of an HD player.

RE: CNet and Predictions
by rayiner on Mon 27th Aug 2007 17:32 UTC in reply to "CNet and Predictions"
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

A quick look at the internet archive shows that they predicted the following technologies would fail:

1) Push content
2) ISDN
3) 56k modems
4) Internet phones
5) NetPC
6) Spam-blocking software
7) PDAs
8) PC TV
9) Java

Interestingly enough, most of these really didn't fail, but morphed into a slightly different, but ultimately successful technology.

- Push content: Morphed into RSS feeds and RSS aggregators.
- 56k modems: Substantial broadband penetration took a long time; 56k modems certainly had they heyday.
- Internet phones: VOIP anyone? Vonage, etc?
- Spam-blocking software: It's integrated into everything now.
- PDAs: The "PDA" market proper is waning, but I don't think smartphones and the iPhone are fundamentally different devices
- PC TV: Interestingly enough, all three major US networks have many of their TV shows available via streaming on their websites; of course, torrenting TV shows is huge too
- Java: Never succeeded properly in client space, but absolutely took over server space, which no one saw coming

Wow, that's fast!
by fignew on Mon 27th Aug 2007 04:38 UTC
fignew
Member since:
2006-09-06

"Macosrumors is also reporting that according to Motorola, the Power PC architecture has a lot of potential. How much? How about one gigahertz (1,000 MHz). (!)"

Blazing!

RE: Wow, that's fast! (not too much progress)
by libray on Mon 27th Aug 2007 15:22 UTC in reply to "Wow, that's fast!"
libray Member since:
2005-08-27

What was the upper level speed of the Motorola chip on the consumer market before Apple went to Intel?

Sigh
by jack_perry on Mon 27th Aug 2007 04:51 UTC
jack_perry
Member since:
2005-07-06

From September 29th:

And you thought Mac users were die hards . . . Amiga users are hopeful since Gateway purchased the pioneering Amiga OS.


Here we are ten years later... still waiting. In retrospect, Gateway was apparently the only serious candidate, and even they weren't serious about it. When they found out what Jim Collas had in mind, that was the end of that.

Congratulations are in order ...
by MacTO on Mon 27th Aug 2007 04:57 UTC
MacTO
Member since:
2006-09-21

Three websites had their acts in order, and managed to maintain URLs for nearly 10 years:

C|Net (2 of 3)
AppleInsider (1 of 1)
StepWise (1 of 1)

Other than that, the web is like a virtual Library of Alexandria. It has all these tantilizing hints as to the volumes of information that it once contained, but which were destroyed by the savage hoards (website admins).

pablo_marx Member since:
2006-02-03

The Way Back Machine is your friend... Just prefix http://web.archive.org/web/*/ to any of the dead links there, and (hopefully) you'll get to see the content.

raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

From the link above for the Internet Archive Wayback Machine..

Data Retrieval Failure.

We're sorry. We were unable to retrieve the requested data. We may be experiencing technical difficulties and suggest that you try again later.
See the FAQs for more info and help, or contact us.


Priceless

Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Also, do bear in mind that there is no backup of the Internet Archive. This is a basement run project using entirely legacy hardware. If a hard disk dies, that's a whole chunk of Internet history lost right there. Scary when you think about it.

devurandom Member since:
2005-07-06

My god. This makes me think.

However, Wikipedia reports that "It is a member of the American Library Association and is officially recognized by the State of California as a library." -doesn't it mean it has some funding?

Edited 2007-08-27 10:03

Fransexy Member since:
2005-07-29

Also, do bear in mind that there is no backup of the Internet Archive. This is a basement run project using entirely legacy hardware. If a hard disk dies, that's a whole chunk of Internet history lost right there. Scary when you think about it.

That is the reason mirror sites exists

bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

There are mirrors for the wayback machine?? COuld you front us some links to those or were you just being sarcastic?

--bornagainpenguin

mini-me Member since:
2005-07-06

Web development has evolved over the years, as has technology, but it would be a mistake to let 'old things' that are 'crap' be destroyed because we have newer things now. Should we demolish the great wall of china, the pyramids of Egypt and the Parthenon of Greece? I think not.

Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

That's probably what the layperson said when the Library of Alexandria burned down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_alexandria

Now, mind you, there is doubtlessly plenty of crap in those internet archives, but I think it rather rash of you to declare that it's all junk just because most people won't take the time to sift through it.

stagnation
by richmassena on Mon 27th Aug 2007 05:02 UTC
richmassena
Member since:
2006-11-26

while there's been a lot of exciting developments in the last ten years, I'm still surprised to see how stagnant the industry has been. The same key players are there, the Amiga and OS/2 stories are similar to what we see here these days.

Has the industry matured, or is it being held back?

RE: stagnation
by superstoned on Mon 27th Aug 2007 06:52 UTC in reply to "stagnation"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

It has been held back for sure. And every economist can tell you why. Monopolies tend to do that...

RE: stagnation
by Fransexy on Mon 27th Aug 2007 10:46 UTC in reply to "stagnation"
Fransexy Member since:
2005-07-29

while there's been a lot of exciting developments in the last ten years, I'm still surprised to see how stagnant the industry has been. The same key players are there, the Amiga stories are similar to what we see here these days.

The Amiga seems it has been trapped in a time loop.Itīs all the time the same history again and again with different players.The Amiga universe collapsed in a black hole?

dead links
by superstoned on Mon 27th Aug 2007 06:39 UTC
superstoned
Member since:
2005-07-07

seeing all these dead links, makes me feel bad - we ARE loosing our history on the web, aren't we?

Great minds think alike
by rhyder on Mon 27th Aug 2007 07:19 UTC
rhyder
Member since:
2005-09-28

In 1997 -
The Computer My Mom Needs
By Joanne Rodgers
http://www.osnews.com/1997osnews/oped/11.97/mom.html

In 2007 -
The Return Of The 8 Bits?
By Michael Reed
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17723/The-Return-Of-The-8-Bits

Great minds think alike. Mine just works much, much more slowly than hers ;-)

hahaha
by liamdawe on Mon 27th Aug 2007 09:11 UTC
liamdawe
Member since:
2006-07-04

java a doomed technology, now look at it, good work osnews people.

......
by islander on Mon 27th Aug 2007 11:36 UTC
islander
Member since:
2007-04-11

If thats the original intro page @ link then me likes.

xmms...
by pllb on Mon 27th Aug 2007 13:44 UTC
pllb
Member since:
2007-04-30

pity xmms couldn't stick around lol

RE: xmms...
by Constantine XVI on Mon 27th Aug 2007 15:20 UTC in reply to "xmms..."
Constantine XVI Member since:
2006-11-02

You want to take a peek at Audacious.
http://audacious-media-player.org/
Audacious is a fork of Beep Media Player, which itself was a fork of XMMS.

Google ads
by adinas on Mon 27th Aug 2007 14:34 UTC
adinas
Member since:
2005-08-17

Wow, they had Google ad sense back in 1997!

RE: Google ads
by Kroc on Mon 27th Aug 2007 14:44 UTC in reply to "Google ads"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Welcome to the new web, same as the old web.

RE: Google ads
by David on Tue 28th Aug 2007 03:19 UTC in reply to "Google ads"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

Actually, the pages were querying a now-defunct ad network called "spinbox." One search and replace later, Google ads!

1997-2007
by biffuz on Mon 27th Aug 2007 16:04 UTC
biffuz
Member since:
2006-03-27

Amiga lives.
OS/2 lives.
BeOS rules.
Linux is ready for the desktop.
Windows sucks.

It's incredible how that 1997 looks like this 2007.

Op-ed Roffle
by gypsumfantastic on Mon 27th Aug 2007 20:36 UTC
gypsumfantastic
Member since:
2005-07-06

"Ending Mac OS licensing has many Apple fanatics up in arms, but the Mac's days are numbered. Like it or not, the most compelling technologies in Apple's future are a modern operating system mated to cheap, easy to configure Network Computers."

Yay!

some wayback links to the stories
by KLU9 on Thu 30th Aug 2007 00:27 UTC
KLU9
Member since:
2006-12-06

10 Technologies that Don't Stand a Chance.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990224185426/www.cnet.com/Content/Feat...

Ralph Nader & The Microsft Menace
http://www.slate.com/Features/NaderMS/NaderMS.asp" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/19971210223956/http://www.slate.com/Feat...

MacWeek on Rhapsody
http://web.archive.org/web/19990219165533/macweek.zdnet.com/mw_1142...

some more wayback links
by KLU9 on Thu 30th Aug 2007 00:52 UTC
KLU9
Member since:
2006-12-06

What's an OS? IE-Windows integration - Wired
http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/7933.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/19990220011903/http://www.wired.com/news...

Omega's COS: a rival Mac OS - MacWeek
http://web.archive.org/web/19990428114115/macweek.zdnet.com/mw_1141...

Amiga Lives! Purchased by Gateway - ZDnet
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/zdnn/0926/zdnn0014.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/19990116232124/http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn...

yet more
by KLU9 on Thu 30th Aug 2007 00:58 UTC
KLU9
Member since:
2006-12-06

Ellison's Network Computer Crashes & Burns
http://www.currents.net/newstoday/97/09/25/news1.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/19971211215337/http://www.currents.net/n...

The BeOS Newsletter of 19th Sept. 1997
http://www.be.com/aboutbe/benewsletter/Issue91.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/19971022021704/http://www.be.com/aboutbe...