Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Sep 2007 15:26 UTC, submitted by SK8T
Mac OS X Apple recently seeded developers with yet another build of Mac OS X 10.4.11, destined to be the final update to Tiger. Builds 8S155 (PowerPC) and 8S2155 (Intel) deliver an additional number of bug fixes, including remedies to issues with the BSD Kernel and interlock timeouts, ASR and scanning and restoring, CoreText Layout, and a bug with ImageCapture that creates problems downloading images from an iPhone when the phone has a large number of saved photos.
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Not quite final...
by DevL on Thu 20th Sep 2007 15:55 UTC
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2005-07-06

It's might be the last minor version of 10.4 AKA "Tiger", but most likely there will be additional security updates released as long as Tiger is supported which should be until 10.6 is released, most likely around late 2009 or early 2010 judging by the OS X track record.

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great
by SK8T on Thu 20th Sep 2007 16:33 UTC
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2006-06-01

this is a really nice thing - nice to see that apple care about their tiger users. And based on my experience, tiger is already rock solid. Okay, there are a few bugs. I reported them to apple (https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/RadarWeb.woa/wa/signI...) and hope they will fix them. But overall I'm very happy with tiger.

/edit: typo

Edited 2007-09-20 16:34

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just give us....
by tryphcycle on Thu 20th Sep 2007 17:00 UTC
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2006-02-16

the new finder already!!!!!!!! Finder still continues to be the accullies (sp) heel of the OS!

if i had time... i can make a like at least 20 points long where the finder just aggravates me to no end! OS9 still has a few thing on OSX that is SOOOOO miss! i am really hoping leopard wows me in the finder department...

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RE: just give us....
by Gryzor on Thu 20th Sep 2007 17:07 UTC in reply to "just give us...."
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2005-07-03

Use Pathfinder for "the way finder should be" or try quicksilver for a more "geeky" (yet more effective) way to copy/move things around.

Finder won't get "fixed" in Tiger, get used to it. :p

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i have...
by tryphcycle on Thu 20th Sep 2007 18:27 UTC
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2006-02-16

""Use Pathfinder for "the way finder should be" or try quicksilver for a more "geeky" (yet more effective) way to copy/move things around.

Finder won't get "fixed" in Tiger, get used to it. :p""


I have used pathfinder.... it works pretty good.... but it is a third part app, and is a pain to have to install on every machine you use! its got issues to. and breaks on every big release of OSX.

and... i am fully aware that finder wont get fixed with tiger....and am used to it.... but thats why i mentioned leopard. i'd like to believe that the finder in leopard will be zen like.... but i can only hope!

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Some words to Leopard
by kloty on Thu 20th Sep 2007 21:16 UTC
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2005-07-07

Is it just me, or do others also think that Leopard is the less promoted version of MacOSX so far? Since the introduction in March and some discussion about the inclusion of ZFS and the design of Time Machine, there was pretty nothing, neither from Apple side, nor from other sources. Now the release seems to be in October, but still no official conformation, no release date, no hype. All I hear from Apple is iPod, iPhone, iMac, iWork, iLife, but nothing about Leopard. It already makes me bit suspicious. Which role does MacOSX play in Apple universum? What if Apple decides to ditch the OS business alltogether and port all it software to Windows? Is this scenario so unlikely? It seems to me that the only unsuccesfull business, which Apple continues is programming of MacOSX. There they have 3 or less percent of the market as opposed to their music business with 70 and more procent. Even their hardware is much more successfull now, since Windows can be installed on it.

Please don't get me wrong. I love MacOSX and work every day with it, but if I see the progresses Linux and Windows make and promotion efforts from Apple side, I'm really starting worrying.

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RE: Some words to Leopard
by Matt24 on Thu 20th Sep 2007 21:30 UTC in reply to "Some words to Leopard"
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2005-07-23

Windows making progress????????

After the release of Leopard they will be definitely relagated to the stone age!

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RE (2): Some words to Leopard
by markus on Thu 20th Sep 2007 21:55 UTC in reply to "Some words to Leopard"
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2006-01-14

Since iPhone and iPod Touch are based on Mac OS X there is no reason to think Apple will abandon Mac OS X.

As a developer I am not allowed to tell specifics about Leopard, but if you think Vista or any particular Linux release are big progresses you will be please with Leopard functionality and speed.

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RE: Some words to Leopard
by REM2000 on Fri 21st Sep 2007 08:19 UTC in reply to "Some words to Leopard"
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2006-07-25

The other thing to bear in mind is usually Apple only annouces the major things when a product is close to release.

It's a method microsoft should adopt, as they start hyping straight away, making unrealistic expectations by the time of release. Look what happened to Vista, there was sooo much talk about it, starting in 2003. By 2007 there is no way any product could live up to that hype.

I am really looking forward to Leopard, but it's nice to know that apple are still activley support tiger, hopefully the support will last a while.

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RE[2]: Some words to Leopard
by mtxblau on Fri 21st Sep 2007 16:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Some words to Leopard"
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2007-05-11

The main difference is that 10.1 through now are upgrades of the same version of the OS. XP to Vista is akin (rather, how MS hyped) to the switch between OS 9 and OS X.

I think the incremental hype between .X releases is the same as XP to SP1, SP2 and so on.

Had the XP to Vista switch panned out with all those promises, there's no doubt people would've been excited for Vista.

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PowerPC
by nexex on Thu 20th Sep 2007 23:43 UTC
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2006-06-30

Not being a mac user, I'm wondering has Apple announced what the final version of OSX they will support on PowerPC?

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RE: PowerPC
by aliquis on Fri 21st Sep 2007 04:23 UTC in reply to "PowerPC"
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2005-07-23

I don't think so, but I would belive that quad G5 owners would be upset if 10.6 didn't run.

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RE[2]: PowerPC
by DevL on Fri 21st Sep 2007 10:02 UTC in reply to "RE: PowerPC"
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2005-07-06

Well, since 10.6 isn't likely to be out for another 2 years I'm not so sure it will support PowerPC (here's hoping), although if it does I think it's safe to assume that 64-bit CPUs (and hence G5) will be a minimum requirement.

And even if 10.6 won't support PowerPC, 10.5 should get security updates until the release of 10.7 (likely about 4 years from now, in 2011/2012).

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RE[2]: PowerPC
by gleng on Fri 21st Sep 2007 11:06 UTC in reply to "RE: PowerPC"
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2006-02-16

My guess is that 10.6 will drop support for G4 processors. Just a guess, though.

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bug fixes
by Eugenia on Fri 21st Sep 2007 01:33 UTC
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2005-06-28

Hopefully they will fix the recent bug where after several wake ups later no app is loading and the networking stack is dead and only a reset fixes it. It started happen on my powerbook about 2-3 months ago. Not sure if it's Camino's fault or the kernel's though, as I started using Camino at that time too.

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RE: bug fixes
by DevL on Fri 21st Sep 2007 09:59 UTC in reply to "bug fixes"
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2005-07-06

No such problems with my Macbook, Powermac or G4 Mac Mini. You might want to try ditching Camino for a few days to exclude it as the source of the problem.

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10.4.11 the last for Tiger?
by bousozoku on Fri 21st Sep 2007 16:49 UTC
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2006-01-23

I sincerely hope that it's not the last since they introduced so many problems for laptop computer owners in 10.4.10. I'd be seriously surprised if they fixed them.

Whatever works, though. I'll be on Tiger for a while until they get a stable version of Leopard, which should be around 10.5.3.

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