Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th Sep 2007 18:33 UTC
Features, Office Microsoft said that Office 2008 will come in three versions. The "core" version, Office 2008 for Mac, including all the applications plus Automator and Microsoft Exchange Server support, will cost USD 399.95, with a USD 239.95 upgrade price. Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student Edition will allow three user licenses, but it won't include the Automator and Exchange Server support. It will cost USD 149.95 for the retail version, with no upgrade pricing announced. New to the lineup will be Office 2008 for Mac Special Media Edition, which will add Microsoft Expression Media for Mac, a revised version of the iView Media digital asset management utility. iView was acquired by Microsoft in 2006. This version will cost USD 499.95, with a USD 299.95 upgrade price.
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Someone has to say it...
by TheMatt on Tue 25th Sep 2007 19:21 UTC
TheMatt
Member since:
2005-10-10

...so I will.

Will Excel 2008 be able to multiply? (See http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/24/2339203 for more details)

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RE: Someone has to say it...
by MollyC on Tue 25th Sep 2007 20:17 UTC in reply to "Someone has to say it..."
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

LOL
I was laughing about that earlier today. Speculation is that "10000" appeared in the code when it should've been "0x10000". OOPS!

Slashdot posters are saying it's a display bug rather than a calculation error (because graphs still display properly and calculations built on the incorrect cells give correct values). But even if the underlying data is correct, it's still a MAJOR screw-up for the display of the data to be wrong, particularly for cases where human-beings are eye-balling the spreadsheet themselves (rather than just feeding them into larger calculations).

Huge embarrasment for the Excel team, which I gather is one of Microsoft's most proud teams.

"Will Excel 2008 be able to multiply?"

Well, if it doesn't, then MacBU would be even more embarrassed since the bug is known well before they'll ship. :p

Edited 2007-09-25 20:18

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RE[2]: Someone has to say it...
by MollyC on Wed 26th Sep 2007 04:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Someone has to say it..."
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

A followup on the Excel 2007 bug, straight from the Excel team's blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/excel/archive/2007/09/25/calculation-issue-up...

The fix is going thru internal testing and should be released soon.

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RE
by Kroc on Tue 25th Sep 2007 19:38 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Too late, too many versions, too expensive. I switched to iWork and I love it.

Office is a good product (Shame on you Widows team), but I'm just not using it to the level I used to years ago. Sorry Microsoft, but laggy PPC-only Office 2004 has been annoying for quite some while.

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No Need for M$ Office
by Macrat on Tue 25th Sep 2007 19:47 UTC
Macrat
Member since:
2006-03-27

When you have NeoOffice.

http://www.neooffice.org/

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RE: No Need for M$ Office
by Adurbe on Tue 25th Sep 2007 20:01 UTC in reply to "No Need for M$ Office"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

dont know why you were modded down!!

I use neooffice quite happily on my mac! I have office x 'just incase' but I dont think ive needed to use it for about 2/3 years now

work is a different matter though, my boss is a firm beliver in a single platform office so i am not allowed to use openoffice :-(

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RE: No Need for M$ Office
by Cutterman on Tue 25th Sep 2007 20:05 UTC in reply to "No Need for M$ Office"
Cutterman Member since:
2006-04-10

Agree. NeoOffice works fine on my MacBook.

When it catches up to v2.3 it'll be even better.

No thank you Bill, I'd rather not.

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RE: No Need for M$ Office
by evangs on Wed 26th Sep 2007 05:59 UTC in reply to "No Need for M$ Office"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

I guess it's only on OSNews where you'll find people so keen on NeoOffice. I use it on my Macbook for those rare documents that are sent to me in OO format. Other wise, I just leave it alone. That thing runs slower than MS Office 2004 which is running under emulation on my Mac.

Thanks, but no thanks.

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John.Gustafsson
Member since:
2005-08-08

Last I heard it couldn't do the scripting properly, which could easily sink it in an corporate world who loves those little scripts. It's been pretty quiet about all of that for some reason.

It feels like Office is where Microsoft really could be hurt, because if they can't sell that cash cow, they only have Vista left to make them money.

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Sabon
Member since:
2005-07-06

It's nice to see how much money I will be saving because I don't buy Microsoft products. Between iWork and NeoOffice I only spent $79 plus tax and $320.95 (plus the different in taxes) to spend on other things. Or ... to put into savings.

PS: Nobody at work or at home can tell I don't use Microsoft products at all even though I share documents, spreadsheets, etc., with them.

PSS: Don't forget. If you think buying MS Office for Macs is more compatible because of scripts ... uh, the new version doesn't support visual basic. Oops.

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KenJackson Member since:
2005-07-18

PS: Nobody at work or at home can tell I don't use Microsoft products at all even though I share documents, spreadsheets, etc., with them.

I'm pleased to hear that. NeoOffice says it's based on OpenOffice, which is the only one I use (on GNU/Linux). I don't do much exchanging, but if I do, I want Windows zombies to be able to read what I wrote without problems.

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v Fantastic!
by anomie on Tue 25th Sep 2007 20:23 UTC
oo.org
by broken_symlink on Wed 26th Sep 2007 00:38 UTC
broken_symlink
Member since:
2005-07-06

what happened to all that stuff we heard 2 years ago about the x11 version of open office being dropped on os x in favor of an aqua version? i haven't heard any news since the initial onslaught.

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RE: oo.org
by anomie on Wed 26th Sep 2007 01:30 UTC in reply to "oo.org"
anomie Member since:
2007-02-26

I believe that's precisely what others in this discussion are referring to:

http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php

That what you had in mind?

Edited 2007-09-26 01:33

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You mean this?
by jocknerd on Wed 26th Sep 2007 01:46 UTC in reply to "oo.org"
jocknerd Member since:
2006-01-26

http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/aqua.html

Its actually pretty stable for an alpha.

IBM has recently made Lotus Symphony available for free. Its an office suite which supports the Open Document format. IBM has announced they are working on a Mac version of it to be out in 2008.

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HelbaDot
Member since:
2007-01-29

Personally, I hope MS Office doesn't have much fight left in it. The price is just absurd, and while OO.org might not be perfect and might have some obnoxious formatting issues, I can put up with all that knowing that I have saved three to five hundred dollars.

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