Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:11 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Gateway has unveiled its latest all-in-one desktop PC, dubbed simply the One. Sitting somewhere between an Apple iMac and Sony's Vaio LT series in terms of looks, the slimline 19in machine also sports a unique power-brick-cum-port-replicator.
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cum port?
by bonjour on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:18 UTC
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submitter is jacking off too much!

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RE: cum port?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:28 UTC in reply to "cum port?"
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2005-06-29

You obviously don't speak French.

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RE[2]: cum port?
by Excel Hearts Choi on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:55 UTC in reply to "RE: cum port?"
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2006-07-08

You obviously don't speak French.

Of course it would then be "comme".

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RE[2]: cum port?
by Jimbo on Fri 28th Sep 2007 03:49 UTC in reply to "RE: cum port?"
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or Latin!

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RE[3]: cum port?
by puenktchen on Fri 28th Sep 2007 06:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: cum port?"
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2007-07-27

cum - preposition [usu. in combination ]
combined with; also used as (used to describe things with a dual nature or function) : a study-cum-bedroom.
ORIGIN late 19th cent. : Latin.

Edited 2007-09-28 06:31

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RE[2]: cum port?
by libray on Fri 28th Sep 2007 15:21 UTC in reply to "RE: cum port?"
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2005-08-27

Why the need to combine languages then? Why not write the whole article in French?

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RE: cum port?
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 28th Sep 2007 09:44 UTC in reply to "cum port?"
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I see there's no minimum age limit for creating an account here...

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JonathanBThompson
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Ok, so there's no slots, and it appears unlikely that there are any user-serviceable parts inside.

However, it's most interesting that they have all the ports attached through the power brick, and the keyboard and mouse are wireless, since it really is a common issue for all wires in a typical computer with external devices to go all over the place, making it a royal mess and perhaps unsightly to most. Other than the fact that this has desktop-sized parts (keyboard, monitor, mouse) this looks like it very much will make it fairly portable and easily moved: LAN parties, anyone, or WalterCon presentation computers? ;) (Now, does Haiku run on it...)

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Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

Actually, there is at least one user-servicable part: the article explicitly mentions a second, empty drive that can later be upgraded.

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not to shabby
by poundsmack on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:36 UTC
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the thing i am most impressed with is the AC adapter/port replicator

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toslink?
by smashIt on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:36 UTC
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2005-07-06

i dont think you could actualy plug something into the toslink-conector
and the 2 usb-connectors seem to have the same problem...

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The Gateway One
by akeru on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:37 UTC
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Handsome and sleek, until you load up Vista.

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RE: The Gateway One
by Constantine XVI on Fri 28th Sep 2007 00:16 UTC in reply to "The Gateway One"
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Which is why you throw a Gutsy install CD in before you turn it on. Compiz fixes any and all non-prettiness

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RE: The Gateway One
by Almafeta on Fri 28th Sep 2007 00:41 UTC in reply to "The Gateway One"
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2007-02-22

Handsome and sleek, until you load up Vista.


Heh. The computer is colored the same way as Vista, and even has that 'swoosh' across the bottom of the keyboard in about the same place as the most visible 'swoosh' of the Vista window...

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RE: The Gateway One
by Anonymous Penguin on Fri 28th Sep 2007 14:29 UTC in reply to "The Gateway One"
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Handsome and sleek, until you load up Vista.


So just don't do it. Load your favorite OS.

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Re
by shykid on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:37 UTC
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Doesn't really look like an iMac--it more resembles the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh to me.

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RE: Re
by averycfay on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:53 UTC in reply to "Re"
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2005-08-29

Maybe if all you look at is the color. In every other respect, it looks more like the imac. Comparison:

imac - http://www.apple.com/imac/design.html
20th ann. mac - http://www.mayrandcomputer.com:16080/museum/tam.html

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nice surprise
by MamiyaOtaru on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:46 UTC
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I was expecting to see something not really nice looking, and had in my head how it should look: a way to look sleek without looking too much like the iMac.

It's a lot closer to how I thought it should be than how I thought it actually would be (that is to say, I quite like it).

I really don't like widescreen so much though. Rather wish they'd just extend the screen down a bit instead of leaving that blank area, but overall very nice.

The brickhub is sweet. There are still ports on the computer itself for some USB key and headphone action, while printers, scanners and SPDIF out can all be under the desk where the brick usually resides. Really brilliant.

I wouldn't get one any more than I'd get an iMac though, I like user serviceable parts. Still it holds a nice visual appeal. Color me pleasantly surprised.

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All-in-one
by k9_engineer on Thu 27th Sep 2007 22:57 UTC
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The all-in-one concept is nice for certain business applications. No cords for speakers, monitors etc. Makes administering the hardware much easier in Small office situation. I have both profile 4 and profile 5 machines in my office. None have good performance or reliability but the sure are easy to setup and take down. Maybe I'll get an iMac and run windows on boot camp when the next one fails

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RE: All-in-one
by raynevandunem on Fri 28th Sep 2007 03:02 UTC in reply to "All-in-one"
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2006-11-24

I wrote about the need for an AIO Linux PC a while back. http://rayne-vandunem.livejournal.com/94056.html

However, you're right about the ease of administrating AIOs. They're meant to be as zero-footprint as hardware constraints would allow, but still usable in a graphically-intensive manner.

What's funny is that Steve Jobs said, when presenting the iMac G4 Lamp (arguably, Apple's best design) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRY-PCKdDg , that Apple firmly believed in the AIO form factor. However, the AIO form factor was in use by Commodore in the late 70's (pre-Amiga) and Apple in the early 80's, and the reason why there are so few manufacturers who have started in the AIO market is because of the association of AIOs with the earliest periods in personal computing.

So I guess the AIO has returned as a standard computing form factor (Apple, Sony and Gateway leading the way), but has only gotten bigger in size.

That said, I like Gateway's design, but "meh..." about Vista.

Edited 2007-09-28 03:05

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Oh No!
by k9_engineer on Thu 27th Sep 2007 23:00 UTC
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I just saw that on the gateway website one can only get Vista loaded. I think NOT baby puppy!

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Good for mainstream
by archeas76 on Thu 27th Sep 2007 23:04 UTC
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Cool design, look like it has the potential to aquire some market share from the typical home user. Being that it looks simple to set up and operate should draw some popularity to this system. Hell, if Mac could do it why not Gateway with this design? From a hardwar/operability point of view that is. As for me, if I can't take it apart and replace their crap-ass hardware with better stuff, I'm not buying it, Mac or Gateway. ;)

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It has a chin!!!
by BBlalock on Thu 27th Sep 2007 23:20 UTC
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Other than that it looks quite nice.

Having USB ports on both sides of the monitor would be good for those of us with desk arraignments which put peripherals on the other side. Of course the easy workaround is to use a hub with one of the power-brick-ports for desktop gizmos.

Along with many others I'm no fan of the all-in-one form factor. Even all-in-one laptops annoy me. B^)

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TV?
by jello on Thu 27th Sep 2007 23:46 UTC
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The question would be if it can be mounted to the wall and if it has the possibility to attach a TV card or whatever. It surely would make a nice digital TV, TV-Recorder DVD-Player for (small) living rooms.

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RE: TV?
by broken_symlink on Fri 28th Sep 2007 00:21 UTC in reply to "TV?"
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2005-07-06

the high end one comes with a usb tv tuner. http://www.gateway.com/programs/one/compare.php

don't know if it can be mounted on the wall, but i think it should be possible.

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RE[2]: TV?
by jello on Fri 28th Sep 2007 02:01 UTC in reply to "RE: TV?"
jello Member since:
2006-08-08

Cool.

Now if there would be a HD Radio for USB this would really make a nice media center.
And as long it's not used as a normal computer I wouldn't care if it's MS-Vista. Just don't put any valuable files on it and you are save ;)

BTW: it doesn't look like to be engineered to be hanging on the wall. (didn't see any mounting holes on the back)

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A real hardware review would be nice.
by porcel on Thu 27th Sep 2007 23:49 UTC
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2006-01-28

Thom,

Why don't you guys contact Gateway and ask for a review sample? I would love to know whether and how it runs Linux.

The hardware looks very nice but also seems highly proprietary, though I could be wrong.

The ultimate for me would be to see Suse or Ubuntu preloaded on that baby.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Yeah Linux running on this baby with comppiz and really nice subtle theme would be great. I didn't even know Gateway was still around I thought they were done for. Nice to see that they have some fight in them.

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Nicest gateway I've seen...
by D3M0N on Fri 28th Sep 2007 00:17 UTC
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2005-07-09

but man, Apple's iMac is a better deal for the money. Bigger display, better build materials (glass and aluminum), and in my opinion, a much better looking (and thinner) design. Oh - and besides the RAM, Apple's specs are better too.

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RE: Nicest gateway I've seen...
by Tuishimi on Fri 28th Sep 2007 05:58 UTC in reply to "Nicest gateway I've seen..."
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2005-07-06

Apple's LOW-END iMac:

2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo
1.0 GB RAM
250 GB HD
ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT / 128 MB

$1199.00

Apple's high-end iMac:

2.8Ghz Core 2 Extreme
2 GB RAM
500 GB HD
ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro / w56 MB

$2299.00

All iMacs can hold 4 GB of 667 DDR2 SDRAM and up to a 1 TB disk.

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Not a buy...
by Almafeta on Fri 28th Sep 2007 00:30 UTC
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... but not because of Vista, but because of Gateway. I have yet to hear of anyone happy with their Gateway machine.

(Note: By 'anyone' I mean 'people I know and can talk to', not random Internet people. This is representative of my experience.)

Man, I love the form factor, though. I have ever since the original 'Monorail' design...

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RE: Not a buy...
by twickline on Fri 28th Sep 2007 00:55 UTC in reply to "Not a buy..."
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Simple answer...... NO!

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cute
by spikeb on Fri 28th Sep 2007 02:38 UTC
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2006-01-18

wonder how well alternative operating systems support the hardware

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Can I have one to go? :P
by WereCatf on Fri 28th Sep 2007 06:56 UTC
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2006-02-15

Really, I like that one! It's elegant looking, has enough connectivity and everything I would have use for, and damn I like the idea of the AC adapter acting as a port replicator ;) PCs don't usually look that good ;)

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muuust... beeee.... faaaanbooooy...
by ObscuredCelery on Fri 28th Sep 2007 07:14 UTC
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2006-06-12

Ahh look how ugly it is compared to the iMac! Nothing will ever be as good as the iMac because Steve Jobs molded it with a spfork out of moon rocks and fairy dust. .... did that cover the obligatory apple fanboy comment on the story?

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better than expected, but still...
by MrSidecar on Fri 28th Sep 2007 09:11 UTC
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I think the machine itself looks kinda ok, at least better than most other PCs. However, display size is a little out of proportion with the "chin", the huge black bar underneath the display. What worries me is the rather flimsy foot itīs standing on, the one liīl thingy attached to the rear, doesnīt look too trustworthy to me.

As a side note: Obviously design ended with the parts immediately visible on the desktop. But if Apple would give extra funcionality to their ac adaptors (usb, lan, etc) you can be sure they would not look like something crammed together in a rather generic box you can buy at your local electronic parts warehouse. And NO, not a fanboy, just observing...

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hey Gateway, you're still not getting it
by chrish on Fri 28th Sep 2007 12:59 UTC
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The iMac has better hardware and is cheaper (by $200 at the low-end)... is Gateway targetting really stupid people with this, or what?

Other than that, my only complaint with this is that it doesn't look too sturdy in the article's shots... looks like it would tip over backwards easily.

Having a spare drive bay is a nice touch, but it'll be crippled for home use (ie, video games) by the Mobility video chipsets, compared to the "real" Radeon chipsets in the iMac.

- chrish

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aent Member since:
2006-01-25

Having had to deal with a lot of the new iMacs lately, I'd be absolutely SHOCKED if this thing had worse build quality then the Macs. Apple really cheaped them out as much as they could as far as component quality. Plus, this thing comes with a usable keyboard and mouse. I've never seen (in person) ANYONE that can stand the one's included with a mac, with the curving up keyboard so you can't hit the number keys and the mouse with the abnormal scrollwheel and having to lift up your left finger off the mouse completely to right click.

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MrSidecar Member since:
2007-02-13

As far as I know. the new iMacs come exclusively with the new Apple Keyboard thatīs anything but steep, a pleasure to type on (my experience) and perfectly usable... Plus, could you specify what is so cheap about the iMac build quality? Thanks.

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rain Member since:
2005-07-09

I agree about the quality. It's certainly become worse. I wish they would have stuck to the old price and quality. I've now had three of them and all of them have been faulty in some way, plus while the 24" panel is wonderful they have managed to mess up the backlighting badly.

I don't agree about the keyboard though. It's one of the best keyboards I've ever used. If not the best.
And frankly so far I haven't hear a lot of people complaining about it. In fact, most people seem to love it.

The mouse isn't good though. I'll give you that.

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I can offer one plus...
by yakirz on Fri 28th Sep 2007 13:09 UTC
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it's not so disgustingly ugly I'd be ashamed of seeing it in my extremely messy house.

But once you turn it on and see Vista, that takes it that once step further.

For $799, throw Linux on it and it'd be acceptable. For $1399? Are you f--king kidding?

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Not again...
by TemporalBeing on Fri 28th Sep 2007 13:44 UTC
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Shortly after when Gateway was at its peak - roughly in 1998/1999 - they released the Gateway Profile PC, which was essentially the same thing. Their Profile PC is in its 6th version (taken from the name - URL: http://www.gateway.com/programs/profile6/).

So they just started to get themselves going again and now their going to kill themselves again?!

So, no this is nothing new. They've had an All-in-One iMac clone/competitor since roughly 1998/1999. (BTW, if I remember correctly, the original Gateway Profile had an LCD.)

(BTW, if you look at Wikipedia, it doesn't start listing the Gateway Profile series until the Profile 4, which is listed as 2002. The list of Gateway products is incomplete.)

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just a revision
by cg0def on Fri 28th Sep 2007 14:19 UTC
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this is only a revision of an all-in-one pc that gateway has been making for quite some time now. Definitely not a new product line. Get your story straight. Oh and this is really ugly and bulky compared to a new iMac.

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Are you kidding?
by daddio on Fri 28th Sep 2007 15:03 UTC in reply to "just a revision"
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2007-07-14

Gateway Profile == evokes revulsion, almost nausea; looks like two mATX desktop pc's bolted together at right angles with a monitor glued to the front.

Gateway One == nice; looks like a monitor

If this had standard monitor mounts i the back so it could be mounted on a swing arm it could be really nice, but it looks at though they have not done that. too bad

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RE: just a revision
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 28th Sep 2007 15:10 UTC in reply to "just a revision"
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2005-06-29

this is only a revision of an all-in-one pc that gateway has been making for quite some time now. Definitely not a new product line. Get your story straight.


You are mixing up the Gateway Profile with this new Gateway One. They are two distinct product lines, with the One being newly introduced.

Oh and this is really ugly and bulky compared to a new iMac.


Dunno. It's different. Not all that bad - although I do wonder about that stand.

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Tough Market
by pdub on Fri 28th Sep 2007 15:52 UTC
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2006-05-23

Gateway is entering a tough market with this product. I just purchased my second Mac this year, a 24" iMac that runs Ubuntu as well as it runs OS X. At $1799.00 it's a tough act to follow.

This from a guy who mocked his friends only a few short years ago for using a Mac. Although I don't really care for Steve Jobs and his overly secretive product launches, they do make some decent products.

Look over your shoulder Microsoft, that rumbling sound in the distance is getting louder.

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RE: Tough Market
by fretinator on Fri 28th Sep 2007 18:55 UTC in reply to "Tough Market"
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2005-07-06

Look over your shoulder Microsoft, that rumbling sound in the distance is getting louder.


Stampeding Fanbois - sounds ominous to me!

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RE[2]: Tough Market
by pdub on Sat 29th Sep 2007 13:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Tough Market"
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2006-05-23

Stampeding Fanbois - sounds ominous to me!

LOL, me a fanboy.

Why don't you try adding something meaningful to the thread.

I cannot recall a time in the past decade where Microsoft has faced so much competition on several fronts, including operating systems. Vendors like Dell and HP were not offering pre-installed Linux for fear of retaliation from Microsoft.

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20th anniversary gateway? ;-)
by mini-me on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:00 UTC
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The design sort of reminds me of the 20th anniversary mac

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Pfft, it only has 3MB of DDR2 memory
by mym6 on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:04 UTC
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Check out the specs as listed on this page...

http://www.gateway.com/programs/one/index.php?rdr=v1267

Click the menu item at the bottom of the ring.

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Comments.
by Bobthearch on Fri 28th Sep 2007 19:28 UTC
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It looks OK, might be just the thing for a secretary's or teacher's desk.

For my own use though, no way. Overpriced, cannot add real components, and I hate feeding batteries into wireless components.

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Overpriced
by CharAznable on Mon 1st Oct 2007 06:51 UTC
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2005-07-06

For that kind of money I'd built a killer gaming PC with an 8800GTX in it.

But the port replicator/power brick is brilliant. I wish more manufacturers did that...

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