Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Oct 2007 12:38 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces Last week, Stardock released version 6 of WindowBlinds, their Windows skinning suite, which is the first version to include full support for Windows Vista. Stardock was kind enough to provide OSNews with a copy of WindowBlinds 6.0. Read on for some findings.
Per Page: Order by: Score:
Pages: < Previous 1 2
RE[5]: Great app
by Laurence on Mon 8th Oct 2007 17:17 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Great app"
Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

"most of us OSNews readers see computers as tools to accomplish a certain task, and most of our UI setups (for those who actually use GUIs ;) ) tend to be geared towards productivity and/or comfort. Extreme desktop-modding is "Pimp my ride" with a computer. Crazy looking but absolutely useless, and more than once absolutely ugly."


Indeed. I was always puzzeled by case modders who stick bulbs inside their computer. For one, how many people actually look at the case when working on their computer - and secondly, wouldn't it make more sense to cool the computer rather than further heat it?

Reply Score: 2

Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

Nar - was just a blank CD-R. XP was just throwing a hissy fit as it sometimes chooses to do.

I was just making the point that personal experience does not constitute as computer science fact.

Edited 2007-10-08 17:21

Reply Score: 3

RE[6]: Great app
by merkoth on Mon 8th Oct 2007 17:23 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Great app"
merkoth
Member since:
2006-09-22

Paranoid much? Nothing better to do than ranting?

I could point a few dozens of cases where GUIs are not needed. At all. But I fail to see what part of my post led you to such a misplaced rant. I never said "real users don't use a GUI". Maybe I should have said: "for those of us who actually use a GUI". Happy now? Do you feel better?

Edit: Spelling and removed the quote.

Edited 2007-10-08 17:31 UTC

Reply Score: 4

OddFox
Member since:
2005-10-05

Sounds like a driver problem, like most everyone else here who's actually using or used WB6 those issues you're having are quite isolated. No stability problems, no responsiveness issues, not even with the whiz-bang new flaming theme with that fire-breathing dragon in your start menu, and I've even got an ATI video card! I would expect issues from that at least. Maybe you should seek assistance with your problems from the people who make the application?

Reply Score: 1

Theme preferences
by GreenReaper on Mon 8th Oct 2007 19:04 UTC in reply to "Great app"
GreenReaper
Member since:
2007-10-08

...for some reason wincustomize is full of horrid, garish themes. Even more disturbing is that many of them are, by all appearances, very popular.

The reason it is full of them is that they are popular (and not, as you might imagine, the other way around). Most WindowBlinds customers are looking for something spiffy. Usability is not necessarily their top priority. I have always tried to make my own skins usable, but for many what matters most is the look, and it is not necessarily a subtle look.

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing - it's just a thing. :-) As for the included skins . . . well, perhaps having a dragon on the start menu isn't the ideal UI, but it sure is a neat way of showing off a new feature! Consider them as an example of what you can do, rather than what you should.

If you don't like the included themes, there are many good skins on WinCustomize. I suggest you make use of the "sort by rating" option ( http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=1&sort=rating ). Not all of the highly rated skins are likely to be to your taste, but that's true of any art form. In my view, what matters is that some people like them - and if that's the case, what's the harm if you do not?

(Me, I like Blackcomb, but I'm the simple sort . . .)

Edited 2007-10-08 19:23

Reply Score: 1

Skins
by Island Dog on Mon 8th Oct 2007 19:05 UTC
Island Dog
Member since:
2007-01-11

Everyone has different opinions when it comes to skins. Some like themes that are more minimalistic, and some prefer skins that are more "extravagant" and have features like animations.

Some of the most popular skins out there today are:

http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=5758&libid=1
http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=6156&libid=1
http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=6285&libid=1

Edited 2007-10-08 19:07

Reply Score: 1

Catch 22?
by null_pointer_us on Mon 8th Oct 2007 20:21 UTC in reply to "I agree with your chief complaint."
null_pointer_us
Member since:
2005-08-19

IMO, WindowBlinds does not have many themes suited to more practical users like Thom because more practical users like Thom do not normally use WindowBlinds.

Maybe holding a minimalist/practical theme competition here on OSNews would be a good idea?

I mean, people are always picking apart the new themes on the open source OS's, so there must be some knowledgeable people here. If StarDock thought it was a good idea, they could give away a free copy or two of ObjectDesktop and WindowBlinds to the winner and the runner-up, respectively.

Eugenia is quite...particular about GUI design. Maybe OSNews staff could come up with an OSNews-themed skin that could be a free download after the contest?

I am assuming that the trial versions of WindowBlinds and SkinStudio would work for this; otherwise, people would have to pay $20 or more to enter the contest!

Edited 2007-10-08 20:24 UTC

Reply Score: 1

RE: Catch 22?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 8th Oct 2007 20:26 UTC in reply to "Catch 22?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Eugenia is quite...particular about GUI design. Maybe OSNews staff could come up with an OSNews-themed skin that could be a free download after the contest?


I'm about as particular as Eugenia when it comes to design. And yes, I indeed have a lot of ideas on how a GUI should look and, more importantly, behave. However, the ideas I have cannot be made to work in a mere theme - they entail so much more.

I've long thought about turning all those ideas, which are fairly coherent, into a nice design document. The sheer amount of work, though, is holding me back at the moment.

Who knows what the future brings.

Reply Score: 1

Rhapsodized
by dylansmrjones on Mon 8th Oct 2007 20:32 UTC
dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

I can understand why Thom is so fond of "Rhapsodized". It looks really smooth. Tish meets Clearlooks-Square (sorry about that comparison ;) ). And no round corners - I like that... a lot.

Reply Score: 2

Yogurth
Member since:
2005-07-20

I guess uptime ranging from 30 days to 3 months should be a good pointer if there is something wrong with my system.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: more than elegance missing
by jtrapp on Mon 8th Oct 2007 21:57 UTC in reply to "RE: more than elegance missing"
jtrapp
Member since:
2005-07-06

Decreased stability

Proof? No problems here.

Decreased responsiveness

Proof? No problems here.


I'm glad that it ran well for you, but sometimes mileage varies...

http://forums.stardock.com/?forumid=167

About half the posts are problems...problems with stability mostly.

Reply Score: 2

Why 3rd Party
by imstillatwork on Mon 8th Oct 2007 23:55 UTC
imstillatwork
Member since:
2007-03-22

Soooo... uh....

What ever happened to the .theme files we got so excited about in windows XP? them things even exist?m I thought Windows XP & newer had built in theming... What's up with that?

Reply Score: 1

Luna Element
by VManOfMana on Tue 9th Oct 2007 02:30 UTC
VManOfMana
Member since:
2006-11-01

The impression that I have is that if you want a more functional or minimalistic style you need to look at Visual Styles. Unfortunately, Visual Styles require a hack, and are not as customizable or system-wide like Window Blinds skins (example: Command Prompt).

On the other hand, I do have a license of Window Blinds 4, but its not installed on my system and I haven't renewed the license. The reason is simply that the WindowBlinds skins available just make my eyes hurt.

My Visual Style for a long time has been Luna Element (since version 3):

http://tornado5.deviantart.com/art/Luna-Element-v5-1-Blue-47567543

It doesn't looks like a big change from the default XP look, but the changes in color choice, color saturation and button shape are very well thought.

If there was an official Window Blinds port this that uses the Window Blinds additional skinning features, I'd buy Window Blinds 6 without thinking twice.

Edited 2007-10-09 02:30

Reply Score: 1

Obscurus
Member since:
2006-04-20

Quite. Anecdotes do not constitute data, and there are so many variables involved in computers that you need to get an aggregate of end user experiences on a range of hardware and software set-ups before you can start considering a problem with a particular piece of software or hardware as a bug or design flaw.

Something might not work for one person for a range of reasons, from a defective transistor in a CPU to a virus ridden machine loaded with crapware. But if something consistently shows the same pattern on several very different machines, then you can say something is a bit sus.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Luna Element
by zubaz on Tue 9th Oct 2007 19:23 UTC in reply to "Luna Element"
zubaz
Member since:
2007-10-09

SkinStudio5 converts MS visual styles to Windowblinds for a more complete skinning experience.

Tutorial here: http://www.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?aid=147196

Reply Score: 1

XP/Vista, Shareware/Pay
by s-peter on Wed 10th Oct 2007 03:37 UTC
s-peter
Member since:
2006-01-29

Thanks for the nice review, it gave good overall information about WindowsBlinds, as well as detailing specific important aspects. However, it would be nice if the review stated near the beginning which version was reviewed on what platform. (Reading through the review it seemed that it was the pay version on Vista.) And while the review is quite useful as it is, ideally it would be nicer if it mentioned the differences between the shareware/pay versions, and what features it supports on which platforms.

Inspired by the review, I just tried the shareware version on XP with the Vista Aero-like Diamond theme and found it quite nice. Even though the reviewer said that most of the themes didn't suit his taste, I think it's enough to find a few themes that you like. (Well, admittedly, an Aero-like theme may not be very new for Vista users... Still, it has the advantage that unlike in Aero, with the Diamond theme, the taskbar color is more matched to the frame colors.)

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Luna Element
by draginol on Fri 12th Oct 2007 21:09 UTC in reply to "Luna Element"
draginol
Member since:
2006-05-20

"If there was an official Window Blinds port of Luna Element that uses the Window Blinds additional skinning features, I'd buy Window Blinds 6 without thinking twice. "

There has bene for 2 years.

http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=4778&libid=1

I do agree that most WindowBlinds skins aren't that great. But that is the same of icons, wallpapers, and everything else.

The existence of ugly WindowBlinds skins as a reason not to use it would be like arguing we shouldn't change our wallpapers because most wallpapers look terrible.

There are thousands and thousands of WindowBlinds skins out there but there are also many ones that would likely match your preference.

For instance, I have been running Metal Vista. (http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=6228&libid=1) It looks great IMO. (See http://www.stardock.com/brad/img47.jpg for a quick preview).

There are great themes out there. They're not any harder to find than a good wallpaper or a good icon package. But it does require the user to sort by rating or look around just like anything else.

Edited 2007-10-12 21:10

Reply Score: 1

Pages: < Previous 1 2