Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Oct 2007 14:18 UTC, submitted by AdamW
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The GNOME version of Mandriva Linux 2008 One has been released and is now available via BitTorrent or from the mirror sites. Featuring all the same new features as the other editions of Mandriva Linux 2008, with a fully up-to-date GNOME 2.20 desktop. In addition, another review of Mandriva 2008.
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Good release
by arctic on Mon 15th Oct 2007 14:33 UTC
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"Since setup I've not experienced any problems. My system is fast, responsive, and stable."

Same experience here. After having used the 2008 release for nearly a week now, I must say that this is a very good release. Works like a charm on my desktop- and laptop-machines.

Thank you Mandriva-developers. ;)

Edited 2007-10-15 14:34

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Screenshots, anyone?
by Joe User on Mon 15th Oct 2007 15:13 UTC
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2005-06-29

Seems like the screenshot on Linux.com are KDE's. Any screenshot for the Gnome version?

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DrCurl
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2006-01-17

why the hell does http://www.linux.com/feature/119783 not loading in Firefox or Opera while it does load in IE???

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superman Member since:
2006-08-01

Works here.
Firefox 1.5.0.12. Fedora 6.

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Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

Are you using AdBlock Plus? I went back to regular AdBlock when I realized ABP was preventing me from seeing some content.

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..........
by islander on Mon 15th Oct 2007 16:00 UTC
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2007-04-11

Mandriva 2008 does rock.

Slapped it on the test machine after my OpenSuse 10.3 debacle.The system is all the article said bar none.It boots fast , was easy to install and the desktop is very responsive not to mention very appealing to look at.

Good job Mandriva team.Its a great release of a great distro.

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but it's 2007
by sequethin on Mon 15th Oct 2007 16:02 UTC
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2005-07-06

it just makes no sense. it's not 2008 anywhere in the world. it's like a 2008 car that's sold in 2007 it just makes no sense. good to see a release but the wrong year thing irks me. haha ;)

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RE: but it's 2007
by Al2001 on Mon 15th Oct 2007 16:33 UTC in reply to "but it's 2007"
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2005-07-06

The logic is that in six weeks time it will be 2008(damn this years flown!) calling it Mandriva 2007 would mean it would appear old in the new year.

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RE[2]: but it's 2007
by AdamW on Mon 15th Oct 2007 16:58 UTC in reply to "RE: but it's 2007"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Ten weeks...

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RE[3]: but it's 2007
by Al2001 on Mon 15th Oct 2007 17:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: but it's 2007"
Al2001 Member since:
2005-07-06

Maybe it's not gone so quick then ;)

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RE: but it's 2007
by sequethin on Mon 15th Oct 2007 19:44 UTC in reply to "RE: but it's 2007"
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2005-07-06

haha it's just silly marketing - we wouldn't want to use a 2007 distro in 2008 right? that would be so lame! haha

seriously though the name has no real relevance to the quality of the distro and I know this - however I don't like the idea of linux distros getting so caught up in marketing that they have to add to a year to seem "newer". Especially since "newer" is not necessarily "better" ;) Again - I'm glad mandriva is still going - mandrake was my first linux distro and I'm glad there are still options out there.

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RE: but it's 2007
by anshu on Mon 15th Oct 2007 19:43 UTC in reply to "but it's 2007"
anshu Member since:
2005-09-03

humm.. i see you are new in Mandriva town... thats the way they always rolled. new version named on next year.

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Very nice
by steampoweredlawn on Mon 15th Oct 2007 16:58 UTC
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2006-09-27

I gave Mandriva 2008 a shot not long ago, and it is indeed a very nice release. I like the direction Mandriva is heading in lately, through I decided to just stick with PCLinuxOS because it's already there, configured and updated, and switching to Mandriva would be more or less redundant ;)

Thanks Mandriva team for all your work!

Edited 2007-10-15 16:59

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Mandriva
by sumone on Mon 15th Oct 2007 18:22 UTC
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2007-02-11

+ Nice and polished
- No x86-64 One CD

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Good link
by mind!dagger on Mon 15th Oct 2007 21:09 UTC
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2007-06-26

I am not able to get a solid link or torrent from my location.

Would anyone know of a html or ftp link which works?

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RE: Good link
by AdamW on Mon 15th Oct 2007 23:14 UTC in reply to "Good link"
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2005-07-06

Where are you?

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v Obsolete
by ChrisA on Mon 15th Oct 2007 21:25 UTC
RE: Obsolete
by arctic on Mon 15th Oct 2007 23:08 UTC in reply to "Obsolete"
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2006-04-19

What a funny troll. I thought they were extinct by now... ;)

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v RE[2]: Obsolete
by ChrisA on Tue 16th Oct 2007 06:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Obsolete"
v RE[2]: Obsolete
by ChrisA on Wed 17th Oct 2007 23:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Obsolete"
Fonts look like crap
by Eudoxus on Mon 15th Oct 2007 22:09 UTC
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2007-02-22

I installed Mandriva 2008 KDE One. I liked mostly everything here except artwork. It does not look polished . Bootsplash looks out of focus. But the real show stopper for me was the way the fonts look on Mandriva. I tried any possible settings but no dice. I wonder, whether there is something Mandriva specific about display of fonts. I have no such problems with other distros. Can anybody give some hints?

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RE: Fonts look like crap
by AdamW on Mon 15th Oct 2007 23:14 UTC in reply to "Fonts look like crap"
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2005-07-06

You're, um, going to need to be a lot more specific. Everyone has different ideas about what 'good' font rendering is. If we don't know what it is you're seeing and what it is you want, there's no way we can help.

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RE[2]: Fonts look like crap
by Eudoxus on Tue 16th Oct 2007 03:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Fonts look like crap"
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2007-02-22

Well, I liek sharp fonts. I usually install Tahoma ot Verdana on my boxes and then tweak with antialising and DPI (in Kcontrol) to get the look I like. And ir works with all distros, but unfortunately not in Mandriva - here I got fonts which either crippled or out of focus. I used to have the same issue with PCLOS. So I thought that may be there is something Mandriva specific.
It is pity as I liked the performance, but I just cannot stand crippled fonts. Want to use Mandriva, but this is real show stopper.

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RE[3]: Fonts look like crap
by AdamW on Tue 16th Oct 2007 05:44 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Fonts look like crap"
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2005-07-06

There's nothing strange about Mandriva's font system. It's just standard Freetype / Pango. Do you usually use Freetype with the bytecode interpreter enabled?

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RE[4]: Fonts look like crap
by Eudoxus on Tue 16th Oct 2007 07:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Fonts look like crap"
Eudoxus Member since:
2007-02-22

Frankly, I do not know. I use whaterer is default on a system and I can get excellent fonts in Debian, openSuSE and Ubuntu. That's why I was confused by Mandriva's behaviour.

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RE[4]: Fonts look like crap
by allix on Tue 16th Oct 2007 12:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Fonts look like crap"
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2007-10-16

Why isn't freetype compiled with the bytecode interpreter in Mandriva? I think Debian, ubuntu, opensuse and most of the others use it by default. Fonts without anti-aliasing looks terrible in Mandriva(thats my only complaint. 2008 rocks! ;) .

Eudoxus: add the plf-repo(guide: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ ) and upgrade the libfreetype-package.

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RE[5]: Fonts look like crap
by AdamW on Tue 16th Oct 2007 15:30 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Fonts look like crap"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Patents. I don't understand why the other distros believe they can enable it without patent problems.

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RE[6]: Fonts look like crap
by Eudoxus on Tue 16th Oct 2007 15:52 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Fonts look like crap"
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2007-02-22

Well, in that case you should warn users about that. Otherwise it is really confusing - why fonts are so crappy in Mandriva. Thank you for answers though.

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RE[6]: Fonts look like crap
by thebluesgnr on Tue 16th Oct 2007 18:47 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Fonts look like crap"
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2005-11-14

Patents. I don't understand why the other distros believe they can enable it without patent problems.

For the same reasons they believe they can ship their distribution without problems.

Take a look at Novell and Red Hat, and what they're being sued for. If you start thinking about patents too much you should simply quit distributing a complete software distribution such as Mandriva.

So it comes down to this: who owns the font-rendering related patents? Are they actually valid patents? Is it likely that freetype infringes them? And the most important question: what are the chances that they owners will sue you?

Looking from that angle, I would ship freetype, NTFS, .doc support and SMB with no fear. I'd be more careful with MP3 and other media related stuff though...

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RE[7]: Fonts look like crap
by AdamW on Tue 16th Oct 2007 19:36 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Fonts look like crap"
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2005-07-06

the bytecode patent is rather 'better' (i.e. truly innovative and less likely to fail the obviousness or prior art tests) than the ancient stuff in the Novell / Red Hat suit. but yes, the whole area is a bit of a mess.

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RE[7]: Fonts look like crap
by AdamW on Tue 16th Oct 2007 19:37 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Fonts look like crap"
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2005-07-06

also, I should really add - it's not *just* patents. Freetype's own position is that they consider their autohinting code superior to the bytecode interpreter for most fonts, and many people agree with this. For instance, I personally prefer the output with the bytecode interpreter disabled to the output with it enabled. As I mentioned, font rendering is an extremely subjective issue, and it also differs from font to font and monitor to monitor.

Edited 2007-10-16 19:38

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RE[5]: Fonts look like crap
by Eudoxus on Tue 16th Oct 2007 15:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Fonts look like crap"
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2007-02-22

Thanks for the link. I'll try it ins spare time.

Reply Score: 1

Num Lock
by JeffS on Mon 15th Oct 2007 22:58 UTC
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2005-07-12

I tried Mandriva 2008 on my laptop, and like most everything about it, and I agree with a lot of the comments here.

However, Mandriva enables numlock by default, causing corresponding letter keys to put in the numbers instead.

Thus, I took the following steps.

1. In MCC - Services, I turned off the NumLock Daemon.
2. In KDE CC, Peripherals, Keyboard, turned off the NumLock toggle.
3. Configured KDE to allow root login. Logged into KDE as root, and did the same thing as #2.

This mostly solves the problem. For logging into KDE normally, no problem. For opening normal (non-root) apps in KDE, no problem. But as soon as I open something that requires root access, the Num Lock is on again, and I end up failing logging in because I don't realize that Num Lock is on. Then I use the blue "Fn" key with the "Num Lock" key to turn it off, and I'm able to log in. But then in the regular (non-root) KDE environment Num Lock is back on. AARRRGGHHH!!

Yes, once again I can turn it off again with the blue "Fn" key and the "Num Lock" key.

But doing all this stuff is a huge annoyance (to say the least) and a big time waster, and is about as pleasant as finger nails on a chalkboard.

All that said, I want to like Mandriva 2008 and use it. It has lots of good things going for it. And I'd be glad to give it my full endorsement, if only I can easily get past this Num Lock issue satisfactorily.

Perhaps it's a simple matter of choosing a more laptop oriented keyboard (rather than the default "Generic US keyboard" during the live boot process. I dunno.

But any hot tips to get around this would be greatly appreciated.

Edited 2007-10-15 23:00

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RE: Num Lock
by Trenien on Tue 16th Oct 2007 04:00 UTC in reply to "Num Lock"
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2007-10-11

That's weird.

Mandriva/drake has had the numlock feature for a long while now, but it's the first time I've heard it affect a laptop's keyboard.

The only way I've seen it behave was to enable numlock on the number pad of a standard desktop keyboard.

Interesting.

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Most important question....
by leech on Mon 15th Oct 2007 23:29 UTC
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2006-01-10

Did they screw with the Gnome menus like the majority of RPM based distributions tend to do? I like a flat Applications -> Internet, Applications -> Games, etc. None of this Applications -> Internet -> Web Browsers. I really only need one or two web browsers installed. There are really only the need for a maximum of five web browsers. I don't think that really constitutes the need for it's own sub-menu, especially since one of those browsers would be IE and would be under Wine.

This is what keeps me away from most of the RPM based distributions. OpenSuSE decided to go one step further and completely ignored the normal Gnome menu. Ugh.

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RE: Most important question....
by AdamW on Mon 15th Oct 2007 23:49 UTC in reply to "Most important question...."
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2005-07-06

See http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Tour#New_menu_... :

"A new menu layout has been introduced. This menu is a merger between the old simplified and Mandriva menu layouts. It is flatter than the old Mandriva layout, with no more than two levels below the top level used at any point."

There's also a little tool called drakmenustyle , also available in the Mandriva Control Center - you can switch from the Mandriva menu layout to the standard GNOME (or KDE, if you run KDE) layout if you prefer it.

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is it just me ?
by dukeinlondon on Tue 16th Oct 2007 08:19 UTC
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2005-07-06

The mandriva ONE KDE CD complains it doesn't have the dhcp-client package and won't connect to my dhcp wifi router (it is visible in a scan though)

Also, the "Live Install" won't start.... So frustrating

So far, none of the major new distros has managed to install on my PC....

Edited 2007-10-16 08:20

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What happened to Mandriva?
by agrouf on Tue 16th Oct 2007 21:18 UTC
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2006-11-17

Installed Mandriva 2008.
It's quite disturbing, where are the bugs?

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