Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2007 22:10 UTC
Gnome GNOME 2.20.1 has been released. "This is the first update to GNOME 2.20.0. The update fixes all known and unknown crashers, even for those modules which haven't released a new version (gnome-terminal)."
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already
by lazywally on Thu 18th Oct 2007 22:39 UTC
lazywally
Member since:
2005-07-06

seems awfully early to have an update

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RE: already
by Redeeman on Thu 18th Oct 2007 22:54 UTC in reply to "already"
Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

well, they probably forgot the remove a feature scheduled for removal ;)

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v RE[2]: already
by Manuma on Thu 18th Oct 2007 22:57 UTC in reply to "RE: already"
RE[2]: already
by apoclypse on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:09 UTC in reply to "RE: already"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I like that. That was funny. ;)

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RE[2]: already
by hussam on Sun 21st Oct 2007 15:04 UTC in reply to "RE: already"
hussam Member since:
2006-08-17

"well, they probably forgot the remove a feature scheduled for removal ;) "

That's very lame and not funny, flaming software projects is really getting old.


"Yes. But part of the GNOME philosophy is not to tell you - being a human, you might get overwhelmed with such information."
Before you make such comments and simply assume things, please check your facts.
"YES, there changelogs"
There's a big changelog for each module and a NEWS file next to each module's source tarball.

Edited 2007-10-21 15:10

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RE: already
by SlackerJack on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:05 UTC in reply to "already"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

You'd be surprised about what they commit and then find out that the person who committed it didn't talk to the person in the first place.

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RE: already
by SEJeff on Fri 19th Oct 2007 00:57 UTC in reply to "already"
SEJeff Member since:
2005-11-05

http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyone Not it doesn't. This was put out > 6 months ago.

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WTF?
by BluenoseJake on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:06 UTC
BluenoseJake
Member since:
2005-08-11

How can you fix something that is unknown?

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RE: WTF?
by Hiev on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:09 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

they have superpowers, that's why GNOME rocks!!!

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RE[2]: WTF?
by raver31 on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:28 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF?"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

lol, even though I had my sarcasm detector switched on, I still found this funny.

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RE[3]: WTF?
by Hiev on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

That's the point of sarcasm.

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RE: WTF?
by tyrione on Thu 18th Oct 2007 23:14 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

SQA doesn't cover all boundaries. There will be sequences that have yet to flush out latent bugs triggered by behaviors not tested.

It happens to all platforms.

The "unknown crashers" is a poor description of what it really means in this context.

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RE[2]: WTF?
by BluenoseJake on Fri 19th Oct 2007 00:00 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF?"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I doubt any QA process will flush out all unknown bugs. Statements like that only raise expectations to unrealistic levels

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RE[3]: WTF?
by stestagg on Fri 19th Oct 2007 13:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Read on:

This release is a highly stable. Crashers should not be reported as
these only occur during the planned crash time.
Further, any problems in the actual release are to be blamed on the rest
of the release team not catching my errors.

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RE: WTF?
by leech on Fri 19th Oct 2007 10:23 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

I recall at one point there being an update to Internet Explorer that said something similar.

"This update eliminates all previously addressed security vulnerabilities as well as any newly discovered vulnerabilities affecting Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP. Download now to protect your computer from these vulnerabilities."

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RE: WTF?
by meianoite on Fri 19th Oct 2007 11:18 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
meianoite Member since:
2006-04-05

How can you fix something that is unknown?


As Donald Rumsfeld(*) so poetically put it:
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

:)



(*): IMHO he (and everyone who took high positions in the government and the military of the U.S.A. for the last... hm, 70 years or so) is a dick. But what a funny quote ;)

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RE[2]: WTF?
by bandido55 on Fri 19th Oct 2007 13:35 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF?"
bandido55 Member since:
2006-10-02

Rumsfield didn't say anything new. What he said was a variation of Johari window.1) things known to all (public); 2) things known to you but not to others (secrets); 3) thinks known to others but not to you (individual unawareness); and 4) things unknown to all (collective unawareness)

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Did they fix FTP nautilus
by Tweek on Fri 19th Oct 2007 05:08 UTC
Tweek
Member since:
2006-01-12

When the internet connection dies, it still continues instead of just moving on

Oh and cancelling an ftp transfer that died does not close it off

Gnome-Vfs-Daemon takes 35% of my cpu to transfer files in nautilus

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RE: Did they fix FTP nautilus
by monodeldiablo on Fri 19th Oct 2007 06:21 UTC in reply to "Did they fix FTP nautilus"
monodeldiablo Member since:
2005-07-06

A lot of GnomeVFS' shortcomings are being addressed in GVFS, which is being rolled into GTK2.

I've only heard of one benchmark of the new code and it seemed to be pretty decent for an abstraction layer. I seem to recall that GVFS was ~15-20% slower than kernel-mount operations. But this was also a few months ago, so it could have gotten slower (more bloat) or faster (optimized code) in that time.

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RE[2]: Did they fix FTP nautilus
by Tweek on Fri 19th Oct 2007 06:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Did they fix FTP nautilus"
Tweek Member since:
2006-01-12

That is good to hear. I use gnome as my main desktop, its just a few of those bugs i have noticed for a while.

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If you didn't get this
by fjleon on Fri 19th Oct 2007 20:39 UTC
fjleon
Member since:
2006-05-02

Does any one know where to get the release notes of 2.20.1?

Edited 2007-10-19 20:42

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RE: If you didn't get this
by iangibson on Sat 20th Oct 2007 21:16 UTC in reply to "If you didn't get this"
iangibson Member since:
2005-09-25

Yes. But part of the GNOME philosophy is not to tell you - being a human, you might get overwhelmed with such information.

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