Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Oct 2007 14:43 UTC
Window Managers xmonad 0.4 has been released. "xmonad is a tiling window manager for X. Windows are arranged automatically to tile the screen without gaps or overlap, maximising screen use. Window manager features are accessible from the keyboard: a mouse is optional. xmonad is written, configured and extensible in Haskell. Custom layout algorithms, key bindings and other extensions may be written by the user in Haskell, in config files. Window layouts are applied dynamically, and different layouts may be used on each workspace. Xinerama is fully supported, allowing windows to be tiled across several physical screens."
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ningo
by ningo on Fri 19th Oct 2007 15:27 UTC
ningo
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2006-02-22

The screen still stays just black, as with 0.3.

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RE: ningo
by jpsalova on Fri 19th Oct 2007 22:35 UTC in reply to "ningo"
jpsalova Member since:
2007-09-06

Do you suppose that's an error? It's supposed to be black - you have to make a window, so try pressing ctrl+shift+enter. Also, it's good to install dmenu - and to read the extremely short man page.

Assuming that it does in fact load properly, in which case you probably get at least a mouse pointer on screen.

Edited 2007-10-19 22:42

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RE[2]: ningo
by ningo on Sat 20th Oct 2007 08:00 UTC in reply to "RE: ningo"
ningo Member since:
2006-02-22

Of course xmond doesn't care about keyboard input, else I hadn't mentioned it.
It's 'black screen' as in 'error, fault, nothing works', etc...

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RE[3]: ningo
by zizban on Sat 20th Oct 2007 13:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ningo"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

Perhaps you ought you to report this on the xmonad mailing list instead of here.

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WOW!
by whittmadden on Fri 19th Oct 2007 21:14 UTC
whittmadden
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2007-10-08

A window manager for the Extreme Minimalist!

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cool ... but :(
by estrabd on Sat 20th Oct 2007 01:25 UTC
estrabd
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2006-01-18

I want to try this so badly, but I it doesn't seem to be included as a package on *buntu or FreeBSD (ports)....

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RE: cool ... but :(
by jpsalova on Sat 20th Oct 2007 01:44 UTC in reply to "cool ... but :("
jpsalova Member since:
2007-09-06

Yeah, I didn't find a package for Ubuntu, but it's easy to install with instruction from the page. There's just one trick to it: to add xmonad to Gdm options (the login screen), you'll want to make the file
/usr/share/xsessions/xmonad.desktop .
Mine looks like:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=xmonad
Comment=Xmonad
Exec=/home/jpsalova/bin/xmonad
Type=Application

That bit isn't in the instructions. And oh, I meant alt-shift-enter in the previous post.

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RE: cool ... but :(
by bm3719 on Mon 22nd Oct 2007 15:15 UTC in reply to "cool ... but :("
bm3719 Member since:
2006-05-30

Just grab it from the darcs repository.

I use this on FreeBSD on my laptop every day and it's great. Very easy to customize, lots of screen space... Pretty much everything you'd ever want. And using it on a laptop is especially handy since mousing is much more work.

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Ratpoison
by fignew on Sat 20th Oct 2007 05:57 UTC
fignew
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2006-09-06

I use ratpoison at work, so this appeals to me. I'll give it a try. ;)

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Good Idea
by dimitar on Sat 20th Oct 2007 21:45 UTC
dimitar
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2007-10-19

I (and probably its not only me) spend too much time finding, unminimizing (uniconizing or whatever), moving, rearranging windows. These unorthodox keyboard-controled window managers can help solve this issue - they place the windows perfectly and you don't need to hunt windows with your mouse. And the best thing is that you have plenty of choice! You have wmii, ratpoison, xmonad and Ion. I think that computers must improve life by both making things easier and aiding you to think differently. Traditional WM's do not do that - they just emulate the real world desk: http://toastytech.com/guis/desk.html


But what has happened with that button behind "Cancel" and "Resize" on that screenshot below?
http://xmonad.org/images/screen-droundy-mosaic.png

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RE: Good Idea
by thebackwash on Sat 20th Oct 2007 23:31 UTC in reply to "Good Idea"
thebackwash Member since:
2005-07-06

that's due to the GIMP not knowing how to redraw its windows properly below certain dimensions. xmonad's probably not suitable for image editing anyway.

the orthogonal design of unix has its ups and downs, and this is one of the downsides. interesting design philosophy, though.

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RE[2]: Good Idea
by zizban on Sun 21st Oct 2007 00:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Good Idea"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

Ah, kids these days! In my day we used w9wm.

http://www.grassouille.org/code/w9wm.en.html

Two pixel border, little configuration, no thinking :-)

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Too many dependencies to build
by libray on Tue 23rd Oct 2007 22:48 UTC
libray
Member since:
2005-08-27

First off is Haskell. You have to have haskell to bootstrap haskell. The source build documentation must be hiding instructions. Then other haskell based system updates.

Too much to have to change in order try it out.

Edited 2007-10-23 22:55

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