Red Hat announced Nov. 7 the availability of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.1, with integrated virtualization. In claims that Red Hat representatives were well aware are extremely broad reaching, they said the new release will provides the most compelling platform for customers and software developers ever, with its industry-leading virtualization capabilities complementing Red Hat's newly announced Linux Automation strategy. It offers the industry's broadest deployment ecosystem, covering stand-alone systems, virtualized systems, appliances and Web-scale 'cloud' computing environments.
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Linux is an excellent server OS and this just makes it better. The problem is that it still isn't something fresh and revolutionary for UNIX switchers - it's still just a better UNIX. Linux needs some revolutionary, original and useful features to set it apart from the competition. Look at Mac OS X Server. It is UNIX based but adds some great apple features and makes it super easy to give it an edge in it's intended market (small-medium businesses). So essentially, great for linux but it still need some super features so it can stand out and be the best.
Edited 2007-11-08 01:21
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You do understand that in the server/workstation world, you don't need revolutions, far from it. You need stability, low purchase and maintenance costs rock-solid security. Virtualization is also beginning to be a base-line requirement.
Being a better Unix or Windows 2K3 is a -big- deal.
Having rock solid virtualization working out of the box, (with or w/o good looking UI) is a -big- deal.
You might argue that Linux desktop is missing a killer feature... but RedHat's lunch is enterprise servers and desktops - a far cry from your desktop.
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Last time I checked windows and graphical linux were very difficult to use with virt-manager. The mouse on the screen and the mouse in the VM don't match up, so hitting buttons was very difficult. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=242676
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I am aware of this problem. It isn't really a bug, it's a missing feature. First of all, both the host and the guest OS are doing mouse tracking things (sensitivity and speed dampening etc.) and second, there is not code to make the mouse disappear in the host when the guest is in use. It will take a bit of lower level coding to fix these problems but my point is that it isn't a mistake on the dev's part.
*I think there is some code out to do these things but they haven't been incorporated as of 5.0 (haven't tried 5.1)
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Linux Automation. Any application, anywhere, anytime :
http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/11/07/linux-automation-any-applica...
RHEL 5.1 :
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/virtualization.html
Linux Available On Demand on Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud :
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/amazon.html
Appliance Platform
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/appliance_platform....
All made in november 7.
Edited 2007-11-08 07:12
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I doubt whether I'll use the virtualisation stuff in Red Hat until KVM matures. The tools are still behind VMware's, Xen has a habit of screwing up networking so you can't run VMware and Xen side-by-side (arghhhh, Xen's custom kernels!), I don't have hardware that supports running of Windows yet and I have some pre-built VMware machines that I still have to use.
All in all, I'm simply non-plused by built-in virtualisation in both the major distributions because I'm waiting for something that does it properly.
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Not quite... When Novell touted how badass SLES's virtualization features were, it was a very striped down Xen 3.0.x that only ran virtualized SLES. At that time, Redhat said simply that Xen wasn't ready for primetime and needed more work. They were right.
Redhat's virtualization is certainly a way for them to help you upgrade to RHEL5, but that isn't all it is for. Most Redhat customers are also Microsoft customers so it wouldn't make sense for windows to work very well under RHEL's Xen. Virtualization makes it much easier to migrate from one platform to another.
The US govt uses RHEL in places that isolation is a serious concern (google Information Assurance) and SELinux + Xen make a great solution.
That being said, you certainly have a good point. RHEL is their bread & butter after all.