The KDE project just released KDE 3.0.4 for Mandrake (8.2, 9.0 and Cooker), Debian, SuSE (7.3, 8.0 and 8.1), Slackware (under the contribution dir) and TurboLinux. Read the ChangeLog here, however it is important to note that this is bugfix release. Update: Read regarding the recent KDE League issue.
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I've been using KDE 3.0.3 on several recent Linux distros and it has been working well. These latest bug fixes ought to further stabilize what is already becoming pretty solid.
Aw, shoot, maybe it's too stable now, so I'd better just use KDE 3.1 Beta... or maybe not! :-)
I'd be interested in hearing what others think of it.
Considering that KDE 3.1 is due out next month, this update is more for stability and bug fixing than anything else. I probably won't even be using KDE 3.0.4 unless I run into one of those KDE 3.0 bugs!
I've been using KDE 3.1beta2 for the past few days and I've been really pleased with it. The tabbed browsing in Konqueror is really nice - lack of tabs was my biggest stumbling block with the the previous versions (having grown quite used to this with Galeon). My only real problem is that Knode (newsreader) freezes a bit, but it did that on me in 3.0.3. Anyway, KDE 3.1 beta seems stable enough on my machine (Slackware 8.1) that I'd recommend you try it if it's on a home machine just for fun. I would recommend starting with a new .kde directory; I don't know if it's necessary but I had some instability when I kept my old dotfiles; when I started with new ones everything seemed very stable.
HMMM - didnt read that you couldnt use more HTML tags - here is the post again..... Sorry....
Just thought I would put a stab in here saying that you can already emerge it in Gentoo.
Check out the announcement here:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=17975
Just:
emerge rsync
emerge kde
Peace, Love, and Gentoo
Derek
good to see that the only leading desktop makes so much progress on the linux plattform.
I have seen several reports on other websites of people seeing large speed improvements.
Anyone out there seeing these??
I am emerging right now - but it won't be done for a while.
Thanks,
Derek
This is not only a bugfix but an important security fix.
-> http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20021008-2.txt
-> http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20021008-1.txt
http://dot.kde.org/1034195249/
Eugenia, it seems that you have not only bold the instructions, but underline, change color and make them flash or these "HTML gurus" won't stop
Hey now!
I post on a lot of forums - and it is tough to remember which ones accept what. And when you are just typing away and then click submit - not thinking about it too much - mistakes just happen.
That said, if osnews were to have a PREVIEW button - it would have never happened. I always preview my posts on sites that allow it.
Derek
...or, you could do a complete install of mandrake 9.0, update to the latest cooker which has kde 3.0.4, and not have to wait all day for the thing to compile, and when you're done, have a kde installation that is faster than gentoo.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=16603
http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2472&lang=en
-Elliott
KDE runs surprisingly well on Mac OS X; it reasonably fast and stable. KDE is a fine desktop.
Amazing, did they really stop crying long enough to write code? Where are the RedHat Binaries? I'll just have to go get the source and build it myself I suppose.
I hope that Red Hat releases the new KDE via Red Hat Network, because if you build it yourself, you will lose most of the changes Red Hat did to KDE...
RedHat binaries. KDE does NOT MAKE BINARIES. It only hosts them. It's up to RedHat to build the binaries and hand them to kde.org to host. As for the rest of your comment, if you think the KDE project is whiny and bitchy, don't use it! The software might be free, but its morally repugnant for you to use it while dissing the developers!
I thought KDE only supplied source code and it was up to the distrobution to package it....
did someone mis-state somthing or is that accurate?
> I hope that Red Hat releases the new KDE via Red Hat
>Network, because if you build it yourself, you will lose most
> of the changes Red Hat did to KDE...
Yes I agree.
> RedHat binaries. KDE does NOT MAKE BINARIES. It only hosts
>them. It's up to RedHat to build the binaries and hand them
No, it's up to whomever decides to build them.
>to kde.org to host. As for the rest of your comment, if you
>think the KDE project is whiny and bitchy, don't use it!
Isn't it obvious?
>The software might be free, but its morally repugnant for
>you to use it while dissing the developers!
Awww, cry for me. Typical.
>I thought KDE only supplied source code and it was up to
>the distrobution to package it....
It's up to whoever builds the packages. It's usually the distributor, but it doesn't have to be.
>did someone mis-state somthing or is that accurate?
My statement was accurate.
The tone of your statement indicated that you thought that the KDE project was being petty for not making RedHat binaries. That was wholly inaccurate because it's not the KDE project's job to make binaries. As for the rest of the anti-KDE sentiment, take the trolling somewhere else. The KDE project has done a whole lot for the Linux community, and if they think they have legitimate complaints against RedHat, then I'd give that a *whole* lot of weight.
Oh, so it's ok for them to have what they think is a legitimate complaint, but not for me huh? Go away.
"I hope that Red Hat releases the new KDE via Red Hat Network, because if you build it yourself, you will lose most of the changes Red Hat did to KDE..."
Red Hat does not even provide GNOME 2.0.2 packages. It's not their business to package the latest desktop releases, it's their business to provide something that works. And the included desktop software does work. 
I'm sure there will be RH packages by fans for those who really want to upgrade. It does not neccessarily have to be better though.
who the heck are these authors that you are posting?
he cannot seem to gracefuly take criticizm from people, flameish or otherwise.
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Rayiner Hashem said:
" The tone of your statement indicated that you thought that the KDE project was being petty for not making RedHat binaries. That was wholly inaccurate because it's not the KDE project's job to make binaries. As for the rest of the anti-KDE sentiment, take the trolling somewhere else. The KDE project has done a whole lot for the Linux community, and if they think they have legitimate complaints against RedHat, then I'd give that a *whole* lot of weight."
Aitvo said:
"Oh, so it's ok for them to have what they think is a legitimate complaint, but not for me huh? Go away."
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sure, Aitvo has the right to defend his position, however, I think he/she was being a little unprofesional in his/her tact through out the board. and this last statement which I quoted, I feel is way out of line.
Aitvo is representing OSNews, sure it is just for fun, but OSNews has a lot of credibility on the web.
I think you need to consider how his/her reaction to criticizm will reflect onyou and on your site.
Just my Opinion.
I don't recall claiming to represent anyone but myself. If you don't like my opinions then that's *YOUR* opinion. Thanks for sharing.
"did they really stop long enough to write code?" --Aitvo
This is a legitimate complaint?
I've got two fairly tweeked installations of both Gentoo and Mandrake, and Gentoo is a hair faster in certain operations. For example, try loading a complex Slashdot thread and rapidly resizing Konqueror. In Gentoo there is slightly less rubber-banding than in Mandrake. In most other cases, it's a wash. I'd just like to point out that KDE's performance is phenomenal in both cases. Not even IE can redraw /. pages as fast as Konqueror (and don't even get me started on OS X's resize performance). In terms of GUI responsivenes, KDE is in most cases as fast as Windows XP. Certain things (opening preference panels and other complex dialogs) are slower, but other things (widget redraw) are faster.
I just did some measurements, and there could be a reason some people find Mandrake to be faster. Gentoo binaries are about 30-50% larger than Mandrake binaries, probably due to more aggressive inlining from GCC's -O3 option. For those without tons of memory, Mandrake would definately appear faster. People with lots of memory, OTOH, would find Gentoo to be faster.
PS> Mandrake 9.0 does not have prelinking enabled, as has been speculated.
Look, you write an article that Eugenia links to, then you come over here and begin to get very rude. I was just telling Eugenia that she might want to becarful becasue acting like a jerk, even to thoughs who bring it upon themselfs, is unprofecional.
just be profecional when defending your self, if a person is so out of line that you feel you need to be deragetory or plane mean, then most folks I am sure would ignore there comment in the first place.
if you can not take the Yahoos out there being jerks toward your column, then I suggest you either not read comments about it or not write at all.
> Aitvo is representing OSNews, sure it is just for fun, but OSNews has a lot of credibility on the web.
Aitvo is NOT representing OSNews. I am not sure who Aitvo is anyway.
I suggest you all calm down and NOT post off topic over here.
I'm not a hard person to figure out. I'm just a guy that likes to keep on top of the news, that's getting sick and tired of all the mud being thrown at a company that's done nothing wrong. I really don't know how these posters determined that I wrote an article, I haven't ever implied that at all. As for keeping comments on topic, yes maam. :-)
Spark wrote:
Red Hat does not even provide GNOME 2.0.2 packages. It's not their business to package the latest desktop releases, it's their business to provide something that works. And the included desktop software does work. I'm sure there will be RH packages by fans for those who really want to upgrade. It does not neccessarily have to be better though.
I think you are wrong, this is a sequrity and bugfix release so I would say it is Red Hat's business to release, at least to their paying customers (RH network costs money right?). I for one will not pay for/use a distro who don't release security updates for SW I use.
As for the Gnome update I don't know if there was any security fixex, but if there is: bad Red Hat!
What Matthias thinks about this: http://dot.kde.org/1034105041/
(I'm sorry, but ever since that famous controversial article, along with other flamebaitish article before and after that, I lost my respect on dep).
Aitvo: Amazing, did they really stop crying long enough to write code? Where are the RedHat Binaries? I'll just have to go get the source and build it myself I suppose.
Well, instead of whining about DEP, or whining about the slow servers, now they switch to whining about RH. They have schedules you know. This hour is whine time. The next is code time. After that is pizza time....
Besides, KDE *NEVER* makes *ANY* binaries.
Eugenia: I hope that Red Hat releases the new KDE via Red Hat Network, because if you build it yourself, you will lose most of the changes Red Hat did to KDE...
No, the changes are too little for them to bother. I hope they would release KDE 3.1 off RHN. Maybe take the patches for the bugs and stream it via RHN.
Heck, where is GNOME 2.0.2? I don't see it on RHN....
Rayiner: The KDE project has done a whole lot for the Linux community, and if they think they have legitimate complaints against RedHat, then I'd give that a *whole* lot of weight.
dep has done a whole lot for KDE, but does it give his recent arguments against KDE correct? Sure, one must rationalize, and must give weigh for RH's and KDE's arguments, but I find that most KDE arguments are flawed. Heck, they only got one thing right, which is about a bug that might be fixed via a patch on RHN or in 8.1
Rayiner: This is a legitimate complaint?
An obvious sacarstic comment you were replying to..
Say, Rayiner, I once had the same opinion as you, being a KDE junky (heck, for a long time I refuse to download GNOME 2.0 stable cause I "hated" it before even using it :-) Just look it from other's point of view, you might see KDE is just blowing it's top.