Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Dec 2007 21:38 UTC, submitted by Finalzone
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Firefox 3 b2 is now available for download. This is the tenth developer milestone focused on testing the core functionality provided by many new features and changes to the platform scheduled for Firefox 3."
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by Hiev on Thu 20th Dec 2007 00:34 UTC
Hiev
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2005-09-27

I tried it with Ubuntu and it blends really nice with GNOME and GTK.

Edited 2007-12-20 00:35

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RE: ...
by siimo on Thu 20th Dec 2007 04:05 UTC in reply to "..."
siimo Member since:
2006-06-22

FF just keeps getting better and better. I like the new one click bookmark feature right from your address bar as well.

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RE: ...
by Erunno on Thu 20th Dec 2007 09:16 UTC in reply to "..."
Erunno Member since:
2007-06-22

Actually, while visual integration is nice it's the least aspect I personally care about. I wish the Mozilla developers would spend some time integrating Firefox better with the GNOME/KDE infrastructure like password storage, respecting global proxy settings, etc. Tight integration is one of the major reasons I use the Free Desktop (in my case, KDE) so I always feel uncomfortable using third-party applications due to lack of said integration.

But I guess since Mozilla is mostly pandering to the Windows users nowadays with the Free Desktop being an afterthought I guess we'll have to wait until a motivated and capable outsider decides to implement these features.

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RE[2]: ...
by google_ninja on Thu 20th Dec 2007 18:44 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

I don't know about now, but initially the goal of firefox (phoenix/firebird) was explicitly to be the best browser on the windows platform. I don't know if that still holds true, but I remember being a bit suprised when I read that (way back when I started using it)

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RE[2]: ...
by wirespot on Fri 21st Dec 2007 02:50 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

I wish the Mozilla developers would spend some time integrating Firefox better with the GNOME/KDE infrastructure[..]


It's not really something they strive for. Remember that Firefox is a cross-platform application to begin with. And in 3.0 they haven't really integrated better with Gnome, but with GTK+, the widget set. Which they were using anyway ('cause you have to pick one) and basically they just polished it a bit more. There no relation to Gnome here. In fact, they intentionally avoided mixing Gnome-specific bits in.

So I very much doubt they're going integrate with Gnome at any other point in the future, anymore that they're going to integrate with the Windows XP firewall, to give a random example. XUL is a platform unto itself. But they might consider mixing in FDO standards if they're relevant. (The FDO stuff is very nice, but it still hasn't been picked up by a large enough number of apps out there -- other than some of its most core aspects.)

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New welcome page
by Finalzone on Thu 20th Dec 2007 07:49 UTC
Finalzone
Member since:
2005-07-06

A giant robot highlighting Firefox logo designed in 1930's fashion. It looks like Mozilla has a funny sense of humour on that one.

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It's absolutely amazing, I love it
by mnem0 on Thu 20th Dec 2007 09:22 UTC
mnem0
Member since:
2006-03-23

Wow, it freakin ROCKS! I absolutely love how fast and speedy it feels. It was a long time ago I installed something and just knew right away that I like it. I like Firefox when it came out and while FF2 had some decent features I never really like it that much. FF2 gave me that irky usable-but-not-perfect feeling. I still used FF2 instead of Opera because FF2 is open source but in all honesty, Opera was probably a tad better in terms of the technology. With FF3 there is just no question. Even though this is just a beta, current FF3 is by far the best browser I've never used.

FF3 is going to kick some serious ass!!

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

I agree, the only reason I'm not already using it full time is because barely any of my extensions run on it yet.

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wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

That's always a fair bit of a struggle. Sigh. By now I got my 2.x tweaked to perfection (the layout, the preferences, the 30+ extensions) and I'm in no hurry to suffer through another period of adjustment, broken extension, little quirks and so on. But I'll have to, of course, at some point.

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doesn't run
by Downix on Thu 20th Dec 2007 12:36 UTC
Downix
Member since:
2007-08-21

Try the download, tells me "can't run" and exits out.

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RE: doesn't run
by siimo on Thu 20th Dec 2007 19:56 UTC in reply to "doesn't run"
siimo Member since:
2006-06-22

Maybe your download was corrupted. I am using it as my main browser now.

It works fine, my only gripe so far is that the scrolling is a bit delayed when using arrow keys on a fairly long page and does feel a bit jerky on heavy pages. It will probably be fixed when it comes out of Beta.

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RE[2]: doesn't run
by Downix on Thu 20th Dec 2007 20:24 UTC in reply to "RE: doesn't run"
Downix Member since:
2007-08-21

Thought of that, nope. Note, Opera doesn't run either, giving me an error due to it being 32-bit while I'm runnng a 64-bit system.

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Wonderful
by kaiwai on Thu 20th Dec 2007 14:36 UTC
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

I love it - this is coming from an Firefox-hater from way back. 2.x and 1.x were chronically bad with the lack of integration with Mac OS X. Firefox 3.0 is a massive leap forward in terms of Mac OS X improvements in regards to look and feel.

Sure, there isn't keychain integration, but that's ok, its nice to see, however, native Aqua widgets being used rather than the fugly XUL widgets. Firefox works with every website, memory usage is down, 'teh snappier' is up, its a win-win. Better still, it is very stable.

What I hope, however, is Mozilla developers focus on stability and memory usage; I'm happy to wait a few extra months to have a top notch release.

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RE: Wonderful
by kaiwai on Fri 21st Dec 2007 00:14 UTC in reply to "Wonderful"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

And I'm marked down - for what? bloody hell this is stupid. Some coward who doesn't have the back bone so creates and account to deduct points of legitimate posts. Pathetic.

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Dataland blog
by jamome on Thu 20th Dec 2007 20:45 UTC
jamome
Member since:
2007-07-08

I am a big fan of Firefox. I also believe it’s in everyone best interest for IE competitors (such as Firefox and Opera) to keep pushing Microsoft. Besides, I like Firefox much more than IE. ‘nuf said. New changes in this milestone are ...

Crosstalk: http://dataland.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/firefox-3-beta-2-released/

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Acid 2 test
by Alexey Technologov on Thu 20th Dec 2007 21:17 UTC
Alexey Technologov
Member since:
2007-03-16

FF 3.0 *fails* to run Acid 2 test !

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RE: Acid 2 test
by Finalzone on Thu 20th Dec 2007 21:41 UTC in reply to "Acid 2 test"
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2005-07-06
RE: Acid 2 test
by wirespot on Fri 21st Dec 2007 03:01 UTC in reply to "Acid 2 test"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

FF 3.0 *fails* to run Acid 2 test !


Oh noes! The horror! And this affects us... how? ACID2 is a combination of rigid standards taken to extremes, that you're never going to find on regular web pages. It carries a certain meaning for browser developers, but I doubt any browser user should lose any sleep over it.

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RE[2]: Acid 2 test
by buff on Sat 22nd Dec 2007 16:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Acid 2 test"
buff Member since:
2005-11-12

FF 3.0 *fails* to run Acid 2 test !

Oh noes! The horror! And this affects us... how?


Thank you for your sanity check. Apparently people like to panic over nonsense. The fact that it works well as a browser for all the sites I visit is more important.

I'm sure the Linux people have noticed that fugly XUL widgets have been replaced with native GTK ones for input fields and such. It took a while but it is finally there. Memory use is also down since apparently the memory leaks that were not a problem were mostly fixed now. Also the classic theme blends into Gnome's themes now too. It is nice I don't have to download a new theme now. The only caveat with FF 3 is that all the extensions need to be bumped up in version number and tested against FF 3.

Edited 2007-12-22 16:40

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Yahoo Mail
by adinas on Wed 26th Dec 2007 20:00 UTC
adinas
Member since:
2005-08-17

The new Yahoo Mail (heavy use of Ajax) doesn't seem to work with it, Though FF 2 works fine.

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