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Actually, while visual integration is nice it's the least aspect I personally care about. I wish the Mozilla developers would spend some time integrating Firefox better with the GNOME/KDE infrastructure like password storage, respecting global proxy settings, etc. Tight integration is one of the major reasons I use the Free Desktop (in my case, KDE) so I always feel uncomfortable using third-party applications due to lack of said integration.
But I guess since Mozilla is mostly pandering to the Windows users nowadays with the Free Desktop being an afterthought I guess we'll have to wait until a motivated and capable outsider decides to implement these features.
I don't know about now, but initially the goal of firefox (phoenix/firebird) was explicitly to be the best browser on the windows platform. I don't know if that still holds true, but I remember being a bit suprised when I read that (way back when I started using it)
It's not really something they strive for. Remember that Firefox is a cross-platform application to begin with. And in 3.0 they haven't really integrated better with Gnome, but with GTK+, the widget set. Which they were using anyway ('cause you have to pick one) and basically they just polished it a bit more. There no relation to Gnome here. In fact, they intentionally avoided mixing Gnome-specific bits in.
So I very much doubt they're going integrate with Gnome at any other point in the future, anymore that they're going to integrate with the Windows XP firewall, to give a random example. XUL is a platform unto itself. But they might consider mixing in FDO standards if they're relevant. (The FDO stuff is very nice, but it still hasn't been picked up by a large enough number of apps out there -- other than some of its most core aspects.)
Wow, it freakin ROCKS! I absolutely love how fast and speedy it feels. It was a long time ago I installed something and just knew right away that I like it. I like Firefox when it came out and while FF2 had some decent features I never really like it that much. FF2 gave me that irky usable-but-not-perfect feeling. I still used FF2 instead of Opera because FF2 is open source but in all honesty, Opera was probably a tad better in terms of the technology. With FF3 there is just no question. Even though this is just a beta, current FF3 is by far the best browser I've never used.
FF3 is going to kick some serious ass!!
That's always a fair bit of a struggle. Sigh. By now I got my 2.x tweaked to perfection (the layout, the preferences, the 30+ extensions) and I'm in no hurry to suffer through another period of adjustment, broken extension, little quirks and so on. But I'll have to, of course, at some point.
Maybe your download was corrupted. I am using it as my main browser now.
It works fine, my only gripe so far is that the scrolling is a bit delayed when using arrow keys on a fairly long page and does feel a bit jerky on heavy pages. It will probably be fixed when it comes out of Beta.
I love it - this is coming from an Firefox-hater from way back. 2.x and 1.x were chronically bad with the lack of integration with Mac OS X. Firefox 3.0 is a massive leap forward in terms of Mac OS X improvements in regards to look and feel.
Sure, there isn't keychain integration, but that's ok, its nice to see, however, native Aqua widgets being used rather than the fugly XUL widgets. Firefox works with every website, memory usage is down, 'teh snappier' is up, its a win-win. Better still, it is very stable.
What I hope, however, is Mozilla developers focus on stability and memory usage; I'm happy to wait a few extra months to have a top notch release.
I am a big fan of Firefox. I also believe it’s in everyone best interest for IE competitors (such as Firefox and Opera) to keep pushing Microsoft. Besides, I like Firefox much more than IE. ‘nuf said. New changes in this milestone are ...
Crosstalk: http://dataland.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/firefox-3-beta-2-released/
Oh noes! The horror! And this affects us... how? ACID2 is a combination of rigid standards taken to extremes, that you're never going to find on regular web pages. It carries a certain meaning for browser developers, but I doubt any browser user should lose any sleep over it.
FF 3.0 *fails* to run Acid 2 test !
Oh noes! The horror! And this affects us... how?
Thank you for your sanity check. Apparently people like to panic over nonsense. The fact that it works well as a browser for all the sites I visit is more important.
I'm sure the Linux people have noticed that fugly XUL widgets have been replaced with native GTK ones for input fields and such. It took a while but it is finally there. Memory use is also down since apparently the memory leaks that were not a problem were mostly fixed now. Also the classic theme blends into Gnome's themes now too. It is nice I don't have to download a new theme now. The only caveat with FF 3 is that all the extensions need to be bumped up in version number and tested against FF 3.
Edited 2007-12-22 16:40




