Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Dec 2007 14:25 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Every now and then, I find OSNews a tad bit too serious. We get carried away over quite a few things - insignificant things mostly, in the grand scheme of things. For a while now, I've been trying to find a way to relieve the tension on OSNews, and I think I may have found a way how. The only problem is - you need to like it too. Read on.
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Kewl! :D
by WereCatf (3.84) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:24 UTC
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I liked those drawings ;) Absolutely brilliant ^^

RE: Kewl! :D
by apoclypse (3.72) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:28 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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I actually lik r the low-skill quality of the art work. If you can refine it just a bit but keep the same kind of loose scratch paper feel, I think you could be on to something.

RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by kmarius (1.96) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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Same here. And the writing could be a bit clearer in some of the comics

About the name:

How about "apropOS" (from the word: "apropos")

If you can't find any good names, just call it "OS Strips" or something. At least you might get more hits from Google searches ;-)

Edited 2007-12-28 21:37

RE: Kewl! :D
by shykid (4.64) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:33 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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I second the brilliance of this, though I see the potential for a lot of aforementioned fanboys getting their [insert preference of underwear] in a wad (even moreso than usual, that is).

"OSNews is biased against OS/2!"
"OSNews advocates poisoning people!"
"OSNews is anti-Apple!"

Or maybe I'm being a tad cynical here...

RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by Thom_Holwerda (Staff) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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"OSNews advocates poisoning people!"


The Acid one requires a tad bit of geek knowledge... Oh, and you need to know what Acid is outside of the geek world ;) .

RE[3]: Kewl! :D
by superstoned (2.8) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kewl! :D"
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Haha, I didn't even think it was possible to mis-understand it that much, LOL

RE[4]: Kewl! :D
by TaterSalad (3.04) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:35 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Kewl! :D"
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Says the guy named "superstoned" ;)

RE[3]: Kewl! :D
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 10:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kewl! :D"
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oh duh, thanks for the reminder.

now it makes even more sense!

RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by thjayo (2.96) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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Well, they are jokes. I don't really see any problem. And I don't think that the guy that stills uses OS/2 cares either ;)

RE[3]: Kewl! :D
by rcsteiner (2.92) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kewl! :D"
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No, I don't. ;-)

RE: Kewl! :D
by buff (3.08) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:33 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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If you could make the lines a little darker, maybe go over it with a thicker felt tip marker, they would be easier to read.

It is a good point though that people get too carried away with things. It always amuses me when someone writes a huge response to a topic and quotes various comments debunking them one at a time. I am often thinking, "Way too much times on their hands..."

RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by Lennie (1.82) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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thicker or black lines was also on my mind.

RE: Kewl! :D
by rhyder (3.32) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:56 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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I agree, it's a good idea. Maybe they could live in a little side box?

Although, in all fairness, the latest Amiga OS 4 announcement will tend to give you a run for your money in the comedy stakes.

OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic
by WarpKat (3.56) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:34 UTC
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Why does OSNews need a comic strip? I just read the comments to get a good laugh from time to time.

RE: OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic
by zizban (3.76) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:36 UTC in reply to "OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic"
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People just need to relax. This is OSNews. It's about OSes. Don't like the comments? Don't read them or set your minimum threshold higher to avoid the trolls, like I do.

We dont need a comic.

RE[2]: OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic
by Tuishimi (2.96) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:06 UTC in reply to "RE: OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic"
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Not to mention if a comic becomes popular it becomes worth $$$. Look at userfriendly.org and penny-arcade.com.

Comic strip idea is " kewl" ...
by GenBlood (1.75) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:39 UTC
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I like the comic strip idea. Looking forward
to reading future releases ...

olpc
by Darkness (1.92) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:47 UTC
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I had a good laugh with XP on the OLPC ;)

as said above, putting a little more contrast in the images and improve your writing a little bit might make this a good idea

RE: olpc
by gonzo (4.04) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:56 UTC in reply to "olpc"
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I had a good laugh with XP on the OLPC ;)

Indeed ;)

draw our own
by geleto (3.27) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:50 UTC
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Would be nice if the OSNews readers could post their own comics in the forum, with an online painting tool embedded in the "Post a new comment" section. This of course should only be enabled for the "Comic" threads.
Some links:
http://canvaspaint.org/
http://www.flashpaint.com/
http://www.sketchr.net/draw/

Another IT comic link
by mramirez (1.2) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:51 UTC
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Another IT comic link:

http://www.bugbash.net/

Kudos
by fretinator (4.4) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:53 UTC
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I think this is a good idea. Basically, all of us need to step back once in a while and laugh at ourselves, and our pet OSes. There would be a lot less flaming.

In fact, to cut down on the number of endless arguments I went ahead and settled them for everyone:

1. Gnome is better than KDE.
2. The BSD license IS freer than the GPL.
3. Windows and Microsoft are evil.
4. Macs are way cooler than anything else.
5. People who run Linux are much smarter than other computer users.

Your welcome!

RE: Kudos
by miscz (3.68) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:32 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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5. People who run Linux are much smarter than other computer users.

Your welcome!

You don't run Linux, do you? ;)

RE[2]: Kudos
by fretinator (4.4) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Kudos"
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Doh! I hate when I do that. Actually, I dual-boot. So, unlike the exceptionally fast brains of the Linuxatti, my brain is probably just half-fast...

RE[2]: Kudos
by wooptoo (2.33) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Kudos"
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"5. People who run Linux are much smarter than other computer users."

People who run Linux are much smarter than their computers ;)

RE[3]: Kudos
by RIchard James13 (2.24) on Sun 30th Dec 2007 04:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kudos"
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I'm faster than my computer. Unless you strap it to a skateboard and we have to race downhill.

RE: Kudos
by bornagainenguin (2.64) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:02 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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Strange...

I am unable to disagree with anything you listed.

--bornagainpenguin

Heh. Some responses from an older hobbyist generation.
by rcsteiner (2.92) on Sun 30th Dec 2007 05:42 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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I love your list of conclusions, but I still believe that each of your well-considered points needs a little bit of clarification ... or rebuttal. :-)

1. The IBM WorkPlace Shell still kicks KDE and Gnome butt three ways from Sunday, though both are getting better all the time. And also much bigger, sadly.

2. Licensing is important to developers, but most end users are interested in functionality.

3. Windows is a tool, and its alignment is Neutral Neutral. Microsoft is admittedly run by tools, but its actions aren't "evil", just self-serving, manipulative, and sometimes illegal. Oh wait ... that's evil, isn't it?

4. Macs are way cooler than anything else. I really don't know what else to say. :-)

5. Linux can be a smart choice. Many Linux users are also very smart people, but most of the smartest people I've known were either mainframe or UNIX people. Many of that subset of people also use Linux, of course.

RE: Kudos
by DLazlo (1.39) on Mon 31st Dec 2007 22:38 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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4. Only because the BeBox is no longer made!

xkcb is also fine
by Benjamin_Lebsanft (2.32) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:01 UTC
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RE: xkcb is also fine
by mabhatter (2.84) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:07 UTC in reply to "xkcb is also fine"
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the feel of your comics matches XKCD style perfectly... check them out!!!

Good idea
by dotMatt (1.8) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:11 UTC
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Comics are a good idea -- a good way to cut loose. A few name suggestions:

* "Shabang" ( an allusion to #!)
* "Platform Reform"
* "Operating Systems Anonymous"
* "Welcome to the O.S."
* "The Wizard of OS"

G'luck!
-dotMatt

well
by AdamW (3.2) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:16 UTC
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well, some of them were decent, but Mastercard commercial jokes are the less refuge of the humorless, don't you know...:)

Comment by merkoth
by merkoth (4.08) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:22 UTC
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Go for it Thom, I think it's a good idea, I love webcomics ;)

Now, the idea of letting the readers write their own comic strips as comments is also great, albeit difficult to moderate (and we know th3 intarnetz is full of dumb people).

Anyway, I think it's a cool idea ;)

RE: Kudos
by protagonist (3.44) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:23 UTC
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You had me with you right up to #5. That one should have said BSD. :-)

lovely
by superstoned (2.8) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:36 UTC
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I loved the putting XP on OLPC one... The others are nice enough, imho you should continue.

More suggestions
by Jakado (1.6) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:36 UTC
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I think the comic is a great idea! Here are a few more suggestions:

"OSNewt"
"!swenSOĦ"
"A patch in time..."
"The OS at the End of the Galaxy"
"The Lighter Side of OSNews" (just to be practical)
"Fudgecicles of Doom" (just to be random)

And I second Benjamin's recommendation of http://xkcd.com/ for one of the greats in the field of tech comics!

xkcd...
by Fred (1.8) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:43 UTC
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but much, much worse.

Don't give up your day job, but respect for trying.

comic names?
by Adurbe (3.12) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:00 UTC
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idle hands (make for devils work)
Comics SP2 (windows ref)
OSsketch (as opposed to os news)
OSscribble (follow on from last name)

RE: comic names?
by vimh (3) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:35 UTC in reply to "comic names?"
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I like Adurbe's suggestion. Except I would make it OSSketch

The Vista on OLPC definitely gave me a good chuckle.

RE[2]: comic names?
by ValiantSoul (1.48) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:14 UTC in reply to "RE: comic names?"
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Or EtchOSSketch (say it quickly, don't spell out OS)

RE: comic names?
by Adurbe (3.12) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:36 UTC in reply to "comic names?"
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another name

cOSmic

links with OS also with OS Galaxy and only one extra letter from comic!

well I thought it was clever anyway :-p

Light Hearted is GREAT
by wizzard (1.55) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:02 UTC
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I think in a world that can be dark and dismal sometimes given the news reports we all watch, a little light hearted humour is always good.

After all, this is just computer stuff, a little light heartedness might serve to make us less anal and contrite. We all have opinions (no right no wrong) but having hissy fits over which OS is the best or which vendor pissed in your corn flakes over a bad service pack or whatever else; taken over all the current world mayhem seems just so silly.

If we all take our "two cents" and put it towards vanquishing the current world mayhem, I think we would be all that much better for it. Banging at APPLE, Microsoft, OpenBSD, Richard Stallman sure is not going to make the killing stop and is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

In a world where everyone seemingly is an IT expert, maybe using that IT expertise to solve some real issues that plague us all as a civilization might be of more assistance. It is all relative.

I like reading OSNEWS (any IT related or non-IT related news) as it is a constant education and a way to keep current. Understanding that everyone is entitled to their opinion does not mean I necessary want or wish to read it or be exposed to it. Personally I like to make my own decisions (and mistakes) without anyone else' assistance.

We do take ourselves too seriously sometimes and laughter is always "good medicine".

I say Keep the funnies flowing; that is if you care to read my opinion. ;) ;)

Peace to all

Light Hearted is GREAT
by wizzard (1.55) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:05 UTC
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Why not just call it ...

OSNEWS Funnies
OSNEWS Funny Paper

RE: Light Hearted is GREAT
by memson (2.44) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 18:05 UTC in reply to "Light Hearted is GREAT"
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"Funnies" is meaningless outside of the US. We would say "comic", "comic strip" or "cartoon".

Like em
by reknawrd (1.4) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:24 UTC
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They sure made me laugh!

As a way to summarize and poke fun at past stories and people's reactions, I think the comics are a great idea.

I highly support this
by ringham (0.11) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:37 UTC
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My favorite computer/software/programming sites are sites that provide me with information AND can make me laugh. A little humor goes a long way :-)

Title suggestion
by RandomGuy (3.56) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:38 UTC
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I'd call it "Crude".
That would allude to the style of drawing, as well as the kind of humour - at least if you take a fanboy's point of view.
It could also mean crude oil in a sense of "some unrefined stuff that can be used to lower friction (within the community)".
The title should probably be written by hand or at least in a font that comes sufficiently close to the look of handwriting.

By far the best joke, imo, was the one about acid :-D

Edited 2007-12-28 18:39 UTC

RE: Title suggestion
by Soulbender (2.6) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:31 UTC in reply to "Title suggestion"
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I'd call it "Crude".


Easily the best suggestion. Not having "OS" in it is a plus too.

RE[2]: Title suggestion
by Thom_Holwerda (Staff) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 17:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Title suggestion"
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I'd call it "Crude".


Easily the best suggestion. Not having "OS" in it is a plus too.


Crude is the best suggestion (he'll get the membership), but sadly, I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.

It's going to be a weird BeOS reference, most likely (seeing that's my pet OS after all). Just don't know what, yet.

RE[3]: Title suggestion
by _LH_ (2.6) on Sat 29th Dec 2007 20:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Title suggestion"
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I'd call it "Crude".


Easily the best suggestion. Not having "OS" in it is a plus too.

Crude is the best suggestion (he'll get the membership), but sadly, I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.

It's going to be a weird BeOS reference, most likely (seeing that's my pet OS after all). Just don't know what, yet.


Thorn or Thorned would sound nice.

RE[3]: Title suggestion
by Soulbender (2.6) on Sun 30th Dec 2007 10:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Title suggestion"
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I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.


I don't think you have to worry too much about that since a) Crud != Crude, b) totally different style and c) your jokes are better and by better I mean they're actually funny.

RE[4]: Title suggestion
by Thom_Holwerda (Staff) on Sun 30th Dec 2007 10:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Title suggestion"
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"I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.


I don't think you have to worry too much about that since a) Crud != Crude, b) totally different style and c) your jokes are better and by better I mean they're actually funny.
"

Heh, thanks ;) .

Anyway, the membership has been given to RandomGuy for Crude, but I won't be using it. I have come up with a name, it's a BeOS reference, and I will unveil it once the comic goes live - hopefully somewhere next week. Three comics a week (Monday, Wednesday, Friday), published on a separate section of OSNews (so not in between other newsitems).

For now, the comics fall under OSNews copyright, but I will most likely choose a CC license and allow for hotlinking or something.

Edited 2007-12-30 10:49 UTC

Relieving the tension on OSNews
by Tyr. (2.96) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:07 UTC
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How about posting less flame-bait from some blog somewhere just so the local cheerleaders can rehash the same tired old argument again ?

If you ask me, these somics belong on your blog. I would be happy to read them there. It's not what I'm looking for on OSNews. IMHO and all that.

RE: Relieving the tension on OSNews
by merkoth (4.08) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:31 UTC in reply to "Relieving the tension on OSNews"
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How about posting less flame-bait from some blog somewhere just so the local cheerleaders can rehash the same tired old argument again ?

If you ask me, these somics belong on your blog. I would be happy to read them there. It's not what I'm looking for on OSNews. IMHO and all that.


I'm sick of reading this. It's his site, his rules. Thom has said (more than once) that OSNews is a techblog. Get over it.

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"How about posting less flame-bait from some blog somewhere just so the local cheerleaders can rehash the same tired old argument again ?

If you ask me, these somics belong on your blog. I would be happy to read them there. It's not what I'm looking for on OSNews. IMHO and all that.


I'm sick of reading this. It's his site, his rules. Thom has said (more than once) that OSNews is a techblog. Get over it.
"

He said 'IMHO'. You get over it.

RE[2]: Relieving the tension on OSNews
by Tyr. (2.96) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Relieving the tension on OSNews"
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I'm sick of reading this. It's his site, his rules. Thom has said (more than once) that OSNews is a techblog. Get over it.


OSNews predates the "blogosphere". It also predates Thom (as editor.)

RE: Relieving the tension on OSNews
by thjayo (2.96) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:11 UTC in reply to "Relieving the tension on OSNews"
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Can't really agree. After all, it's OS-related, and I won't take the time to check Thom's blog as often as I check OSNews.

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[...]and I won't take the time to check Thom's blog as often as I check OSNews.

I think that was the genius of the idea! ;P

--bornagainpenguin

Additional Title Ponderings
by digitaljc (2) on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:12 U