Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Dec 2007 14:25 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Every now and then, I find OSNews a tad bit too serious. We get carried away over quite a few things - insignificant things mostly, in the grand scheme of things. For a while now, I've been trying to find a way to relieve the tension on OSNews, and I think I may have found a way how. The only problem is - you need to like it too. Read on.
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Kewl! :D
by WereCatf on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:24 UTC
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I liked those drawings ;) Absolutely brilliant ^^

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RE: Kewl! :D
by apoclypse on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:28 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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2007-02-17

I actually lik r the low-skill quality of the art work. If you can refine it just a bit but keep the same kind of loose scratch paper feel, I think you could be on to something.

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RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by kmarius on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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2005-06-30

Same here. And the writing could be a bit clearer in some of the comics

About the name:

How about "apropOS" (from the word: "apropos")

If you can't find any good names, just call it "OS Strips" or something. At least you might get more hits from Google searches ;-)

Edited 2007-12-28 21:37

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RE: Kewl! :D
by shykid on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:33 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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2007-02-22

I second the brilliance of this, though I see the potential for a lot of aforementioned fanboys getting their [insert preference of underwear] in a wad (even moreso than usual, that is).

"OSNews is biased against OS/2!"
"OSNews advocates poisoning people!"
"OSNews is anti-Apple!"

Or maybe I'm being a tad cynical here...

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RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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2005-06-29

"OSNews advocates poisoning people!"


The Acid one requires a tad bit of geek knowledge... Oh, and you need to know what Acid is outside of the geek world ;) .

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RE[3]: Kewl! :D
by superstoned on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kewl! :D"
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2005-07-07

Haha, I didn't even think it was possible to mis-understand it that much, LOL

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RE[4]: Kewl! :D
by TaterSalad on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:35 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Kewl! :D"
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2005-07-06

Says the guy named "superstoned" ;)

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RE[3]: Kewl! :D
by hobgoblin on Sat 29th Dec 2007 10:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kewl! :D"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

oh duh, thanks for the reminder.

now it makes even more sense!

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RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by thjayo on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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2005-11-11

Well, they are jokes. I don't really see any problem. And I don't think that the guy that stills uses OS/2 cares either ;)

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RE[3]: Kewl! :D
by rcsteiner on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kewl! :D"
rcsteiner Member since:
2005-07-12

No, I don't. ;-)

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RE: Kewl! :D
by buff on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:33 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
buff Member since:
2005-11-12

If you could make the lines a little darker, maybe go over it with a thicker felt tip marker, they would be easier to read.

It is a good point though that people get too carried away with things. It always amuses me when someone writes a huge response to a topic and quotes various comments debunking them one at a time. I am often thinking, "Way too much times on their hands..."

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RE[2]: Kewl! :D
by Lennie on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Kewl! :D"
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2007-09-22

thicker or black lines was also on my mind.

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RE: Kewl! :D
by rhyder on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:56 UTC in reply to "Kewl! :D"
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2005-09-28

I agree, it's a good idea. Maybe they could live in a little side box?

Although, in all fairness, the latest Amiga OS 4 announcement will tend to give you a run for your money in the comedy stakes.

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OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic
by WarpKat on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:34 UTC
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Why does OSNews need a comic strip? I just read the comments to get a good laugh from time to time.

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RE: OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic
by zizban on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:36 UTC in reply to "OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic"
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2005-07-06

People just need to relax. This is OSNews. It's about OSes. Don't like the comments? Don't read them or set your minimum threshold higher to avoid the trolls, like I do.

We dont need a comic.

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RE[2]: OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic
by Tuishimi on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:06 UTC in reply to "RE: OSNews Doesn't Need a Comic"
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2005-07-06

Not to mention if a comic becomes popular it becomes worth $$$. Look at userfriendly.org and penny-arcade.com.

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Comic strip idea is " kewl" ...
by GenBlood on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:39 UTC
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2006-07-05

I like the comic strip idea. Looking forward
to reading future releases ...

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olpc
by Darkness on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:47 UTC
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I had a good laugh with XP on the OLPC ;)

as said above, putting a little more contrast in the images and improve your writing a little bit might make this a good idea

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RE: olpc
by gonzo on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:56 UTC in reply to "olpc"
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2005-11-10

I had a good laugh with XP on the OLPC ;)

Indeed ;)

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draw our own
by geleto on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:50 UTC
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2005-07-06

Would be nice if the OSNews readers could post their own comics in the forum, with an online painting tool embedded in the "Post a new comment" section. This of course should only be enabled for the "Comic" threads.
Some links:
http://canvaspaint.org/
http://www.flashpaint.com/
http://www.sketchr.net/draw/

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Another IT comic link
by mramirez on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:51 UTC
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Another IT comic link:

http://www.bugbash.net/

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Kudos
by fretinator on Fri 28th Dec 2007 16:53 UTC
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I think this is a good idea. Basically, all of us need to step back once in a while and laugh at ourselves, and our pet OSes. There would be a lot less flaming.

In fact, to cut down on the number of endless arguments I went ahead and settled them for everyone:

1. Gnome is better than KDE.
2. The BSD license IS freer than the GPL.
3. Windows and Microsoft are evil.
4. Macs are way cooler than anything else.
5. People who run Linux are much smarter than other computer users.

Your welcome!

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RE: Kudos
by miscz on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:32 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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2005-07-17

5. People who run Linux are much smarter than other computer users.

Your welcome!

You don't run Linux, do you? ;)

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RE[2]: Kudos
by fretinator on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Kudos"
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2005-07-06

Doh! I hate when I do that. Actually, I dual-boot. So, unlike the exceptionally fast brains of the Linuxatti, my brain is probably just half-fast...

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RE[2]: Kudos
by wooptoo on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Kudos"
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"5. People who run Linux are much smarter than other computer users."

People who run Linux are much smarter than their computers ;)

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RE[3]: Kudos
by RIchard James13 on Sun 30th Dec 2007 04:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Kudos"
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2007-10-26

I'm faster than my computer. Unless you strap it to a skateboard and we have to race downhill.

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RE: Kudos
by bornagainenguin on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:02 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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2005-08-07

Strange...

I am unable to disagree with anything you listed.

--bornagainpenguin

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Heh. Some responses from an older hobbyist generation.
by rcsteiner on Sun 30th Dec 2007 05:42 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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2005-07-12

I love your list of conclusions, but I still believe that each of your well-considered points needs a little bit of clarification ... or rebuttal. :-)

1. The IBM WorkPlace Shell still kicks KDE and Gnome butt three ways from Sunday, though both are getting better all the time. And also much bigger, sadly.

2. Licensing is important to developers, but most end users are interested in functionality.

3. Windows is a tool, and its alignment is Neutral Neutral. Microsoft is admittedly run by tools, but its actions aren't "evil", just self-serving, manipulative, and sometimes illegal. Oh wait ... that's evil, isn't it?

4. Macs are way cooler than anything else. I really don't know what else to say. :-)

5. Linux can be a smart choice. Many Linux users are also very smart people, but most of the smartest people I've known were either mainframe or UNIX people. Many of that subset of people also use Linux, of course.

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RE: Kudos
by DLazlo on Mon 31st Dec 2007 22:38 UTC in reply to "Kudos"
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4. Only because the BeBox is no longer made!

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xkcb is also fine
by Benjamin_Lebsanft on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:01 UTC
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http://xkcd.com/303/ for example.

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RE: xkcb is also fine
by mabhatter on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:07 UTC in reply to "xkcb is also fine"
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2005-07-17

the feel of your comics matches XKCD style perfectly... check them out!!!

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Good idea
by dotMatt on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:11 UTC
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2005-07-29

Comics are a good idea -- a good way to cut loose. A few name suggestions:

* "Shabang" ( an allusion to #!)
* "Platform Reform"
* "Operating Systems Anonymous"
* "Welcome to the O.S."
* "The Wizard of OS"

G'luck!
-dotMatt

Reply Score: 3

well
by AdamW on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:16 UTC
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2005-07-06

well, some of them were decent, but Mastercard commercial jokes are the less refuge of the humorless, don't you know...:)

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Comment by merkoth
by merkoth on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:22 UTC
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Go for it Thom, I think it's a good idea, I love webcomics ;)

Now, the idea of letting the readers write their own comic strips as comments is also great, albeit difficult to moderate (and we know th3 intarnetz is full of dumb people).

Anyway, I think it's a cool idea ;)

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RE: Kudos
by protagonist on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:23 UTC
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2005-07-06

You had me with you right up to #5. That one should have said BSD. :-)

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lovely
by superstoned on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:36 UTC
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I loved the putting XP on OLPC one... The others are nice enough, imho you should continue.

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More suggestions
by Jakado on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:36 UTC
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2007-10-25

I think the comic is a great idea! Here are a few more suggestions:

"OSNewt"
"!swenSOĦ"
"A patch in time..."
"The OS at the End of the Galaxy"
"The Lighter Side of OSNews" (just to be practical)
"Fudgecicles of Doom" (just to be random)

And I second Benjamin's recommendation of http://xkcd.com/ for one of the greats in the field of tech comics!

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xkcd...
by Fred on Fri 28th Dec 2007 17:43 UTC
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but much, much worse.

Don't give up your day job, but respect for trying.

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comic names?
by Adurbe on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:00 UTC
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2005-07-06

idle hands (make for devils work)
Comics SP2 (windows ref)
OSsketch (as opposed to os news)
OSscribble (follow on from last name)

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RE: comic names?
by vimh on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:35 UTC in reply to "comic names?"
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2006-02-04

I like Adurbe's suggestion. Except I would make it OSSketch

The Vista on OLPC definitely gave me a good chuckle.

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RE[2]: comic names?
by ValiantSoul on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:14 UTC in reply to "RE: comic names?"
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2005-07-20

Or EtchOSSketch (say it quickly, don't spell out OS)

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RE: comic names?
by Adurbe on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:36 UTC in reply to "comic names?"
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2005-07-06

another name

cOSmic

links with OS also with OS Galaxy and only one extra letter from comic!

well I thought it was clever anyway :-p

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Light Hearted is GREAT
by wizzard on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:02 UTC
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I think in a world that can be dark and dismal sometimes given the news reports we all watch, a little light hearted humour is always good.

After all, this is just computer stuff, a little light heartedness might serve to make us less anal and contrite. We all have opinions (no right no wrong) but having hissy fits over which OS is the best or which vendor pissed in your corn flakes over a bad service pack or whatever else; taken over all the current world mayhem seems just so silly.

If we all take our "two cents" and put it towards vanquishing the current world mayhem, I think we would be all that much better for it. Banging at APPLE, Microsoft, OpenBSD, Richard Stallman sure is not going to make the killing stop and is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

In a world where everyone seemingly is an IT expert, maybe using that IT expertise to solve some real issues that plague us all as a civilization might be of more assistance. It is all relative.

I like reading OSNEWS (any IT related or non-IT related news) as it is a constant education and a way to keep current. Understanding that everyone is entitled to their opinion does not mean I necessary want or wish to read it or be exposed to it. Personally I like to make my own decisions (and mistakes) without anyone else' assistance.

We do take ourselves too seriously sometimes and laughter is always "good medicine".

I say Keep the funnies flowing; that is if you care to read my opinion. ;) ;)

Peace to all

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Light Hearted is GREAT
by wizzard on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:05 UTC
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Why not just call it ...

OSNEWS Funnies
OSNEWS Funny Paper

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RE: Light Hearted is GREAT
by memson on Sat 29th Dec 2007 18:05 UTC in reply to "Light Hearted is GREAT"
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"Funnies" is meaningless outside of the US. We would say "comic", "comic strip" or "cartoon".

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Like em
by reknawrd on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:24 UTC
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They sure made me laugh!

As a way to summarize and poke fun at past stories and people's reactions, I think the comics are a great idea.

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I highly support this
by ringham on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:37 UTC
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My favorite computer/software/programming sites are sites that provide me with information AND can make me laugh. A little humor goes a long way :-)

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Title suggestion
by RandomGuy on Fri 28th Dec 2007 18:38 UTC
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I'd call it "Crude".
That would allude to the style of drawing, as well as the kind of humour - at least if you take a fanboy's point of view.
It could also mean crude oil in a sense of "some unrefined stuff that can be used to lower friction (within the community)".
The title should probably be written by hand or at least in a font that comes sufficiently close to the look of handwriting.

By far the best joke, imo, was the one about acid :-D

Edited 2007-12-28 18:39 UTC

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RE: Title suggestion
by Soulbender on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:31 UTC in reply to "Title suggestion"
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I'd call it "Crude".


Easily the best suggestion. Not having "OS" in it is a plus too.

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RE[2]: Title suggestion
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 29th Dec 2007 17:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Title suggestion"
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2005-06-29

I'd call it "Crude".


Easily the best suggestion. Not having "OS" in it is a plus too.


Crude is the best suggestion (he'll get the membership), but sadly, I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.

It's going to be a weird BeOS reference, most likely (seeing that's my pet OS after all). Just don't know what, yet.

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RE[3]: Title suggestion
by _LH_ on Sat 29th Dec 2007 20:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Title suggestion"
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2005-07-20

I'd call it "Crude".


Easily the best suggestion. Not having "OS" in it is a plus too.

Crude is the best suggestion (he'll get the membership), but sadly, I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.

It's going to be a weird BeOS reference, most likely (seeing that's my pet OS after all). Just don't know what, yet.


Thorn or Thorned would sound nice.

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RE[3]: Title suggestion
by Soulbender on Sun 30th Dec 2007 10:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Title suggestion"
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I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.


I don't think you have to worry too much about that since a) Crud != Crude, b) totally different style and c) your jokes are better and by better I mean they're actually funny.

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RE[4]: Title suggestion
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 30th Dec 2007 10:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Title suggestion"
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2005-06-29

"I'm not going to use it - it is too similar to UF's Crud Puppy, and I want to avoid any future problems.


I don't think you have to worry too much about that since a) Crud != Crude, b) totally different style and c) your jokes are better and by better I mean they're actually funny.
"

Heh, thanks ;) .

Anyway, the membership has been given to RandomGuy for Crude, but I won't be using it. I have come up with a name, it's a BeOS reference, and I will unveil it once the comic goes live - hopefully somewhere next week. Three comics a week (Monday, Wednesday, Friday), published on a separate section of OSNews (so not in between other newsitems).

For now, the comics fall under OSNews copyright, but I will most likely choose a CC license and allow for hotlinking or something.

Edited 2007-12-30 10:49 UTC

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Relieving the tension on OSNews
by Tyr. on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:07 UTC
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How about posting less flame-bait from some blog somewhere just so the local cheerleaders can rehash the same tired old argument again ?

If you ask me, these somics belong on your blog. I would be happy to read them there. It's not what I'm looking for on OSNews. IMHO and all that.

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RE: Relieving the tension on OSNews
by merkoth on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:31 UTC in reply to "Relieving the tension on OSNews"
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2006-09-22

How about posting less flame-bait from some blog somewhere just so the local cheerleaders can rehash the same tired old argument again ?

If you ask me, these somics belong on your blog. I would be happy to read them there. It's not what I'm looking for on OSNews. IMHO and all that.


I'm sick of reading this. It's his site, his rules. Thom has said (more than once) that OSNews is a techblog. Get over it.

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2005-12-21

"How about posting less flame-bait from some blog somewhere just so the local cheerleaders can rehash the same tired old argument again ?

If you ask me, these somics belong on your blog. I would be happy to read them there. It's not what I'm looking for on OSNews. IMHO and all that.


I'm sick of reading this. It's his site, his rules. Thom has said (more than once) that OSNews is a techblog. Get over it.
"

He said 'IMHO'. You get over it.

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Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm sick of reading this. It's his site, his rules. Thom has said (more than once) that OSNews is a techblog. Get over it.


OSNews predates the "blogosphere". It also predates Thom (as editor.)

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RE: Relieving the tension on OSNews
by thjayo on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:11 UTC in reply to "Relieving the tension on OSNews"
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Can't really agree. After all, it's OS-related, and I won't take the time to check Thom's blog as often as I check OSNews.

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bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

[...]and I won't take the time to check Thom's blog as often as I check OSNews.

I think that was the genius of the idea! ;P

--bornagainpenguin

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Additional Title Ponderings
by digitaljc on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:12 UTC
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OSmuse? A half-witty contradiction perhaps...

OSmews? The cat's...

OStentatious?

OSCOM/IX?


:>)

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Sweet
by WyldStylist on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:23 UTC
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I like em , would also be cool to make some comics based on the user coments, like making characters from the forum appear at work chitchatting these topics from time to time. could grant some laughs indeed

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Do I like it?
by BiPolar on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:25 UTC
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Do I like the jokes? well, depends... on the jokes :-)
I liked the Acid one.

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Comics...
by Flatland_Spider on Fri 28th Dec 2007 19:40 UTC
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The hand drawings have a kind of rough anti-technology vibe that suits the subject matter, making fun of tech. It also gives you the freedom to do them where ever as a pen and pad are highly portable and always useful.

I would suggest scanning them into some sort of vector based program like Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator. It will keep the same feel, but will make it easier to manipulate them.

My one suggestion would be to ink them with a wider pen such as a Sharpie. (I'm not sure if you have Sharpies in Europe, but this http://www.accessoriesallareas.com/images/Sharpie%20Marker%... is what I'm talking about.) The vector drawing programs would help with this as it is easy to turn up the thickness of a line.

As for names:
Software Error
Core Dump
IDtenT Errors
IO Error (Idiot Operator Error)

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Comments and name idea
by deathy on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:03 UTC
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2007-12-28

I found them pretty amusing, especially the first one.

There's always room for more laughs.

Name Idea: OSRubes

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I didn't understand everything
by Joe User on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:10 UTC
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2005-06-29

However I think it's a good idea. Don't set goals though. If you're not inspired, don't force yourself. If, one week, you have several ideas in mind, go ahead. Also, I can imagine you could accept user submissions. Some people might have witty drawings, I guess some OSN readers are pretty creative. That would be nice. My take: Add a thumbnail in the left column for the latest drawing(s).

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Darker
by Gryzor on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:11 UTC
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Nice, I liked it, but make it a little bit darker, that's easy with any Image Software. Even touching the levels will help.

Keep up the good work!

Name? I Don't have a Name.
Something with a double meaning: OZ-one ;)

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No
by Luminair on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:15 UTC
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No I don't like those at all!

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Trolling
by Belial6 on Fri 28th Dec 2007 20:45 UTC
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2007-06-07

The comics are trolling pure and simple. I know lots of people are going to say "It's just a joke! Lighten up!", but that is exactly the problem. It is common for people to use the "Joke" format in an argument as a way of making an trolling statement without having to back up their position. When they are called on it, the chime out "It was a joke. Lighten up." If you put those comics on your site, you are making a public announcment that you run a biased site with no credible information.

Of course, that is your right, but you should be aware of the choice you are making.

As another poster commented, the jokes would be better suited for a non-news site.

If you do choose to put them on this site, I would suggest "The Flaming Troll" as the title. Then make it clear that the comments section is expected to be one huge flamefest, as that is what it will be whether you want it to or not, so instead of fighting the inevitable, you might as well embrace it.

Edited 2007-12-28 20:48

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RE: Trolling
by Soulbender on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:25 UTC in reply to "Trolling"
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2005-08-18

Belia6's New Years promise list:

1) Acquire a sense of humor
2) Don't be a killjoy

Seriously, WTF? I can be rough on the osnews crew quite frequently but even I can appreciate some bad jokes.

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mixed feelings
by dwave on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:00 UTC
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Thom, I really appreciate your efforts and everything but I think the comic thing is something that you should try a bit on your blog first. I'm sure the idea will evolve. Now it's still awfully geeky and a bit embarrassing.

The joke about the acid test is pretty funny, though.

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comic and a name
by pjrinaldi@gmail.com on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:10 UTC
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2007-11-06

I like the comments.

you could call them

OSNews Comedic Commentary U'll Love To. or OCCULT.

i know its pretty crappy, but all I could come up with.

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I like it
by TaterSalad on Fri 28th Dec 2007 21:59 UTC
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2005-07-06

I like the idea of geek comics. Sadly, even though you say you can't draw you still draw better than me ;)

Name suggestions:
geekomic, grawkmic, komic
OSLampoon, geekbreak, ^C, ESC.

And if I think of more I'll post them.

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what ever happened to the podcast?
by verbose on Fri 28th Dec 2007 22:21 UTC
verbose
Member since:
2007-02-13

i thought the podcast idea was way better

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release valve
by MamiyaOtaru on Fri 28th Dec 2007 22:32 UTC
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2005-11-11

I think this is a good idea, completely apart from whether anyone thinks it's good or not. It's a chance for you to release some steam and exercise some creativity and to do it in a format that implies and expects that you aren't %100 serious, allowing you perhaps more room to say things. Go for it.

I laughed at the Windows on OLPC comic. I like how the factory from the Stallman/OpenBSD comic looks just like the little plastic factory pieces from the board game Axis and Allies (shot of it here: http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=industrialbt0.jpg ).

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Naming
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 28th Dec 2007 22:38 UTC
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2005-06-29

Thanks for all the positive replies guys and girls, I'm very happy about them and I'm really close to officially launching the comic as soon as Adam gets back from his vacation so we can think of a way to integrate it properly into OSN v4.

I'm fairly close to naming the comic series "The Hike to the Sea", a very, very, very obscure Be, Inc. reference. Not sure though, might be too abstract.

http://www.bebox.nu/history.php?s=history/1991#hike

Edited 2007-12-28 22:43 UTC

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You tried it.
by devurandom on Fri 28th Dec 2007 22:39 UTC
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2005-07-06

You failed.

Seriously, they're not even near to the definition of "funny".

That's not your fault. If I was in your place, I would have drawn even crappier things. Simply, a webcomic is not something everyone can improvise.

Keep on the good OSNews work and leave webcomics to people that can do it. I'd love if you can have a deal with, say, XKCD to have him draw a weekly OSNews-related strip, for example.

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Too serious ?!
by Duffman on Fri 28th Dec 2007 22:50 UTC
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2005-11-23

Every now and then, I find OSNews a tad bit too serious


Too serious?! With all your crap news, I don't think so.

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;)
by ValiantSoul on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:11 UTC
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2005-07-20

I like it.
Maybe put a disclaimer on all saying they are not to be taken seriously, and disable comments on them?

Should call it:
"Doodlenews"
"The OSNews Reel"
"Day Dreams of OSNews"
"OSNews for Idiots"

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suggestions
by progster on Fri 28th Dec 2007 23:15 UTC
progster
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2005-07-27

"Os Relief"
"Comedy OS"
"(O)perating (S)ystems"
"SKECHTEDos"

Edited 2007-12-28 23:20

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Yar
by 6c1452 on Sat 29th Dec 2007 01:21 UTC
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2007-08-29

I am in favor of this; however, the format would be kind of hard to fit on this site. You don't really want to put them in the article, or flames and anti-comedic snobbery will result.

Perhaps a weekly-or-so post with comics about recent articles would be in order. A bit like this one, really.

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Good Job
by atezun on Sat 29th Dec 2007 01:55 UTC
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2005-07-06

Well I certainly liked them. What I'd suggest is maybe a weekly wrapup with a few comics covering some of the week's headlines. After all they're a good reminder not to take everything so seriously.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Sorry, but that doesn't really follow the line of the idea.. Your picture just doesn't have any sarcasm to it nor is it fun :/ Thom has this interesting cynical and sarcastic touch in his..

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weirdnut Member since:
2006-01-19

You don't understand.

I was just 'writing' a reply, saying: "yes, I think it's a good idea".

Just drawn instead. If I wanted to be funny, I would have drawn Thom in a bunny suit.

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TaterSalad Member since:
2005-07-06

If I wanted to be funny, I would have drawn Thom in a bunny suit.

Can you do it anyway? I'm up for a good laugh this holiday weekend ;) Plus the rest of us would get a kick out of it too. And I never seen Thom in a bunny suit and I want to see what he looks like like a bunny.

Edited 2007-12-29 19:04

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Can you do it anyway? I'm up for a good laugh this holiday weekend Plus the rest of us would get a kick out of it too. And I never seen Thom in a bunny suit and I want to see what he looks like like a bunny.


As long as it isn't a sheep's suit (hi DaaT!), I'm happy.

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v zealots and socialism
by bonjour on Sat 29th Dec 2007 02:50 UTC
RE: zealots and socialism
by dylansmrjones on Sat 29th Dec 2007 03:49 UTC in reply to "zealots and socialism"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

What a strange post...

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competition for best weekly comic
by project_2501 on Sat 29th Dec 2007 03:08 UTC
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Member since:
2006-03-20

I think putting out a weekly topical comic, selected from submissions from osnews registered users would work well.

Reply Score: 1

good idea
by Rugxulo on Sat 29th Dec 2007 05:20 UTC
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2007-10-09

Yeah, I think it's definitely worth the effort. I mean, I guess I'm just a glutton for punishment because I do read lots of comments (at least on some articles). And I like (web)comics, too. So yeah, I'd be at least a little interested. Everybody could always use more laughs. And don't worry about the art. Sure, some people are graphics whores, but there's still some people who enjoy NetHack (et al.) in a plain ASCII term.

:-)

(potential names?)

OS Snooze
OS Nuisance
OS Noose
LamerOS
HilariOS

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comic name
by MamiyaOtaru on Sat 29th Dec 2007 09:23 UTC
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Member since:
2005-11-11

forgot to suggest one in the last post.

How about "My Take" ? I know, not particularly creative, but that would work as a comic title, since we are all already familiar with it as a segue into Editorial Land.

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vaughancoveny
Member since:
2007-12-26

James Hardie (I assume that is how its spelt) - an asbestos company has been based in Holland for sometime. Alright mocking asbestos in general is fine until Bernie Banton for eg. (an Australian asbestoses and related cancer sufferer) suffered without knowing. Thom you live in the Netherlands.

Bernie turns up to the then Australian Health Minister Tony Abbot's place and gets everyone to sign a petition to put a drug for this cancer on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, ie. make it cheaper and government funded. Just weeks and days before Bernie passed away.
Abbot says it was a "stunt and that Mr Banton has an impure heart".

He died a fighter after Abbot and Co. (the Liberal Party to Labor) lost the election.

But on the lighter side, which is hypocritical of me, maybe you can call it:

JamOS Hardly ;) (?)
Or maybe after those 2 comedians, one was Abbot. I think the other was Costello, mockery on the Aussies previous political Treasurer.

If you really wish to leave it in place.

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High time to change the name of the site
by DevL on Sat 29th Dec 2007 10:05 UTC
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2005-07-06

"So, the big question that arises from all this: do you like this? Should we, OSNews, think about continuing this, and giving it a permanent place on OSNews? I enjoy making them, that's for sure."

Why not? Time and time again we've been told that OSNews is not just about Operating Systems which is fine since a news site such as OSN should bring in some interesting tidbits apart from the main OS news flow.

Then we get to hear from Eugenia that she no longer is interested in operating systems and she starts writing about video editing. Akward and kind of clumsy to have one of your former most prominent editors discard the (original) primary purpose of the site. If that doesn't signal things going downhill, I don't know what will.

And now this. Fun as a one off idea Thom, but please keep it for an annual "Best of 20xx" post or post them on your blog or start a sister site.

Then again, it's your site and you do what you want with it. Just don't expect old faithful users and visitors to remain faithful. Or users and visitors for that matter.

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funny
by hobgoblin on Sat 29th Dec 2007 10:52 UTC
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2005-07-06

the xmas one hints that the artist have a healthy interest in mythbusters.

and the deplume is a bit like a refined slashdot posting.

but the acid test i needed a hint from the comments to grasp...

anyways, if its a topic one cant laugh about, maybe its a topic not worth talking about at all?

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I like it, but text is difficult to read
by timofonic on Sat 29th Dec 2007 11:38 UTC
timofonic
Member since:
2006-01-26

The comic it's quite funny, but I had a lot difficulties reading the text.

Maybe is my crappy computer monitor that is dying and becoming more blurry and my glasses being dirty, but the text could be darker or something so even people with "technical difficulties" can read it properly ;)

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Yes please
by yorthen on Sat 29th Dec 2007 12:36 UTC
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2005-07-06

I liked it, while I had some problems reading some of the text (perhaps larger images or larger letters) I would like to see more like those.

Priceless -> XP on the OLPC, it is a simple image that perfectly gets the message across.

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RE: Yes please
by fonebone on Sat 29th Dec 2007 13:45 UTC in reply to "Yes please"
fonebone Member since:
2005-10-05

Please, I think these are utterly devoid of humour, except the last one (which most people didn't even get).

Making a statement like: "Running XP on OLPC is like fitting a square peg in a round hole", is not remotely humour. Where's the ha ha?

Most of these jokes are along the lines of "Microsoft is stupid". Ha ha ha. "Apple is stupid". Ha ha ha. "XYZ is stupid". Ha ha ha.

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RE[2]: Yes please
by Adurbe on Sat 29th Dec 2007 14:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Yes please"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

read some political cartoons in the times or Telegraph. Rarely will you laugh out loud but they are undoubtedly funny because they are clever and topical

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Comment by Almafeta
by Almafeta on Sat 29th Dec 2007 14:07 UTC
Almafeta
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2007-02-22

I'd submit a few.

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Sure
by TheOtherPJ on Sat 29th Dec 2007 15:51 UTC
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2006-07-18

Just put a thumbnail somewhere top-left with the latest, might as well have a dedicated page for it, so the "serious" people don't have to look at it, oh, and put "previous/next/latest/first" buttons there for the bored (like me). I recently read all of UF/CAD/PA like that ;) Yes, I need a new gig.

Anyways, why not just use gimp+elcheapo-wacom-thingie, and a good comic font? (Or inkscape if that floats your boat).

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Those aren't so much comics...
by xiaokj on Sat 29th Dec 2007 17:24 UTC
xiaokj
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2005-06-30

They seem too wordy. If you were to do just that, I'd rather you create them more of like fortune cookies than comics.

If you are going to make a comic for news items that deserve them, then you should tag those fortune cookies to the news items, hidden with AJAX, so as to protect the "seriousness" of this site.

My take: I like the humour but not the presentation. A non-intrusive and text-only strip is enough for me. (sorry I'm more of a content guy)

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Whatever you should or not.
by aliquis on Sat 29th Dec 2007 21:27 UTC
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2005-07-23

Please make it more readable. Like scanning in black&white or whatever.

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name proposal
by dimitar on Sat 29th Dec 2007 21:59 UTC
dimitar
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2007-10-19

how about "Regular expressions for the iThink crowd"

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Yes!
by W-Tarchalski on Sat 29th Dec 2007 23:36 UTC
W-Tarchalski
Member since:
2005-07-18

Brilliant strips, wonderful ideas, but there is one thing...
"Call For Draftsman"

Look, here's what the photographers got:
http://www.whattheduck.net/

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SteveNordquist
Member since:
2007-05-04

I liked the concepts fine and smiled a bit; sharing SVG would be pretty neat, so of course I am biased towards suggesting Inkscape etc. and/or a commercial artist call for interest/submissions.

That is to say, I consider it with the Mathematical Association of America's _Proofs Without Words_ sections, where it's semi-obvious from a diagram what is being implied. This is a big break from seeing 12 authors, their advisors, their advertisers (well...in some contexts) and what engine is behind a site for a few days until the real iPhone images or whatever come up. " Metadata presents last " is seldom practised anymore.

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In short...
by stodge on Sun 30th Dec 2007 01:14 UTC
stodge
Member since:
2005-09-08

No!

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tyrione
Member since:
2005-11-21

AppleInsider is having a cartoonist now as well. I prefer my comic strips/cartoonists to be more talented, but to each their own.

It wasn't just the drawing, but the sarcasm was weakly done.

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Hmm...
by Almafeta on Sun 30th Dec 2007 04:24 UTC
Almafeta
Member since:
2007-02-22

Reading this, I have to wonder if it'd be possible to run a collaborative webcomic.

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nice
by timber on Sun 30th Dec 2007 20:10 UTC
timber
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2007-12-30

Nice! I like the comics!

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU like Mac OS X; it-it) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/3B48b Safari/419.3

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Naming
by Punktyras on Mon 31st Dec 2007 16:03 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-07

I'm all 4 some funny stuff in OSnews, though it is not dull by itself:)
My suggestion to name something that is so not-linear and often unpredictable (especially in comments department) would be:
Ricochet
or
Ricochet OS

Reply Score: 2

Name?
by nonesuch on Mon 31st Dec 2007 18:02 UTC
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2007-11-13

OSNewbs.

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Thom
by DLazlo on Mon 31st Dec 2007 23:06 UTC
DLazlo
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2005-07-06

I forgot to add that I liked them. Especially the Vista-"cause I bent over" comment. You're humor's no more twisted than mine. (Boy are you in trouble!)

Glad you're going for it! Now let's see if I can catch the name ref when it comes out.

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I like these a lot. Well done.
by bazmail on Tue 1st Jan 2008 15:21 UTC
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2005-07-25

These cartoons are easy on the eye in a sort of south park kind of way. Def the way to go.

As for a comic name how about OSToons?

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Comic name
by robshep on Thu 3rd Jan 2008 11:02 UTC
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2006-01-13

Name: Snooze!... o'Snooze..... Go Snooze!

similar to an incorrect pronunciation of (G)o..snews...

KUTGW

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not to be mean
by BrainDeadHippie on Thu 3rd Jan 2008 21:45 UTC
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2005-07-06

but over the years of reading this website I think eugenia and thom are big enough characters to make a comic out of ;) - hmm maybe i'll do it
- BDH

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