Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Jan 2008 21:33 UTC, submitted by jeanmarc
Windows Gizmodo has been running an interesting series of videos (part I | part II | part III) where they interview Bill Gates. They chopped the interview up into smaller pieces (as in, 2 minutes a pop), but the fourth installment only lasts 16 seconds. Bill Gates does say something very honest and open, though. After Gizmodo asked him what product of the last five years he would've wanted polished a little more, Gates answers: "Ask me after we ship the next version of Windows. Then I'll be more open to give you a blunt answer."
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Bad question
by mono on Thu 10th Jan 2008 22:00 UTC
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2005-10-19

He knew that the interviewer wanted to ask a question about Windows (Vista) because most medias rant about the quality of Vista.

They could also ask: What Apple product could have used a little more polish before release? What would be the answer? Leopard? The biggest portals wrote articles about Leopard bugs. They wrote it's not ready for release... These complicated products like an operating system .0 version can't be polished enough.

Rush
by Joe User on Thu 10th Jan 2008 22:25 UTC
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2005-06-29

I like Bill's franchise. He's a nice person, even if Microsoft itself is evil.

Regarding Vista, it had been delayed so much that if they had delayed it a little more, like 6-12 more months, they could have polished it, added the extra features, optimized it for lower-end hardware, etc... The extra delay wouldn't have been a problem for the end-users, but the improvements would have been worth it.

RE: Rush
by Johann Chua on Fri 11th Jan 2008 02:46 UTC in reply to "Rush"
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2005-07-22

I like Bill's franchise. He's a nice person, even if Microsoft itself is evil.


You mean frankness, right? Franchise means something else. ^_-


Regarding Vista, it had been delayed so much that if they had delayed it a little more, like 6-12 more months, they could have polished it, added the extra features, optimized it for lower-end hardware, etc... The extra delay wouldn't have been a problem for the end-users, but the improvements would have been worth it.


Yeah. Vista is much better on my laptop after optimized drivers were available. Video playback is nice and smooth now. Should see about turning off the pre-load cache so I don't run out of memory (so quickly) when I'm running Firefox (less than a day; takes almost a week in Ubuntu). Need to get more RAM, in any case. Will see if 2GB really does make a difference.

RE[2]: Rush
by PlatformAgnostic on Fri 11th Jan 2008 09:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Rush"
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2006-01-02

What do you mean by "running out of memory?" Does your machine actually start getting slower, or are you only basing this on counters? Some of the counters in taskmgr are a bit misleading...

Assumptions re MS
by Almafeta on Thu 10th Jan 2008 22:46 UTC
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2007-02-22

I don't think anyone will disagree that Vista was released before it was fully ready. Unfortunately, Microsoft tried the "it's done when it's done" mentality -- and it backfired miserably for them, so they rushed Vista to market.

Isn't assuming he's talking about Vista a little bit reaching, though? You could easily make arguments for a few other Microsoft products that haven't reached their full potential thanks to premature releases... Windows Live, Windows Mobile, Windows Automobile.

RE: Assumptions re MS
by Nossie on Fri 11th Jan 2008 12:02 UTC in reply to "Assumptions re MS"
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2007-07-31

if it wasn't Vista then I'm thinking he would have been more willing to be 'Frank' about it rather than Bill

Even though...
by apoclypse on Thu 10th Jan 2008 22:48 UTC
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2007-02-17

you guys seem to focus only on the cheap thrill byline I think the other videos were interesting. Bill Gates didn't pull any punches and was pretty honest with the performance of his company. Its also interesting that unlike Ballmer(and on the other end of the spectrum, Jobs), Gates doesn't feel the need to bash Apple and in-fact gives them kind of compliment.

I'm no MS fan at all (I haven't used windows at home for 3 years) but I did find the videos interesting and Bill Gates was actually likeable.

RE: Even though...
by bousozoku on Fri 11th Jan 2008 21:23 UTC in reply to "Even though..."
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2006-01-23

you guys seem to focus only on the cheap thrill byline I think the other videos were interesting. Bill Gates didn't pull any punches and was pretty honest with the performance of his company. Its also interesting that unlike Ballmer(and on the other end of the spectrum, Jobs), Gates doesn't feel the need to bash Apple and in-fact gives them kind of compliment.

I'm no MS fan at all (I haven't used windows at home for 3 years) but I did find the videos interesting and Bill Gates was actually likeable.


It's funny to think of Bill Gates as likable but it would seem to be that way. He's tried to change his appearance over the past 30+ years.

Gates rarely resisted bashing competitors in the past but now that he's mostly retired, he seems to have taken a more laid back view. I'd never think honesty possible but his willingness to talk about the issues is an incredible change.

From Poland?
by dotMatt on Thu 10th Jan 2008 23:15 UTC
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2005-07-29

Funny -- I read "Polish" in the article title as "individuals from Poland" ... gave it a whole new meaning.

RE: From Poland?
by HelbaDot on Fri 11th Jan 2008 00:14 UTC in reply to "From Poland?"
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2007-01-29

As did I! Unfortunately you've already left a comment about it, ruing my hope of doing so with a spec of originality.

RE: From Poland?
by WereCatf on Fri 11th Jan 2008 01:30 UTC in reply to "From Poland?"
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2006-02-15

Funny -- I read "Polish" in the article title as "individuals from Poland" ... gave it a whole new meaning.

I was just thinking about the same thing xD Gee, I didn't know they use polacks as the ingredients for Vista :3

RE[2]: From Poland?
by Johann Chua on Fri 11th Jan 2008 02:47 UTC in reply to "RE: From Poland?"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

Microsoft does use Reverse Polish Notation...

RE[3]: From Poland?
by anevilyak on Fri 11th Jan 2008 21:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: From Poland?"
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2005-09-14

You're thinking of Hungarian notation. RPN is the calculator notation where you express calculations as * + 3 5 2 instead of (3 + 5) * 2.

Edited 2008-01-11 21:07 UTC

polishing Vista
by buff on Thu 10th Jan 2008 23:58 UTC
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2005-11-12

I helped my father setup his new HP Vista PC. On a fast system with lots of memory it runs quite nicely. The annoying snags we ran into were device support. Our older HP scanner wouldn't work with Vista and after contacting HP tech support they apologized since there was no Vista driver available for our model. Based on the amount of time Vista took to come to market I would have expected some sort of earth shattering compatibility mode/virtualization feature for older XP drivers. I thought about downgrading it to XP but we ended up just buying a cheap USB scanner. All the visual eye candy is fun to play with but doesn't really add too much to the ease of use.

Edited 2008-01-11 00:01 UTC

RE: polishing Vista
by ssa2204 on Fri 11th Jan 2008 00:17 UTC in reply to "polishing Vista"
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2006-04-22

Based on the amount of time Vista took to come to market I would have expected some sort of earth shattering compatibility mode/virtualization feature for older XP drivers. All the visual eye candy is fun to play with but doesn't really add to much to the ease of use.

I think you are absolutely 110% correct in that some form of computability should have been implemented. The heart of the issue of course is that it is not Microsoft's job to write drivers for other manufacturer's. In this case it was HP's responsibility, to which they have no excuse given the time they had. But with said I think they should have anticipated to certain degree.

The reality is that companies such as HP do not write new drivers for older hardware simply because they see this as a wonderful method to push people to upgrade their hardware. There is a remarkable difference between consumer and enterprise driver availability when it comes to Windows. Right now if you have a brand new HP server, you can still get Win2k drivers. If you have an old DL380 you can get everything from MS-DOS to Windows 2003, Netware, Solaris, Redhat, and Suse. But then again businesses have never put up with this kind of tactic, while consumers do.

RE: polishing Vista
by elsewhere on Fri 11th Jan 2008 04:39 UTC in reply to "polishing Vista"
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2005-07-13

Our older HP scanner wouldn't work with Vista and after contacting HP tech support they apologized since there was no Vista driver available for our model.


At least that's understandable to a certain extent. I have a brand new Dell Vostro with Vista Business that refuses to connect properly to my AP at home. Also refused to connect to the rogue AP I have set up at work, but since it's the same make and model, that's understandable.

To clarify, it is able to authenticate and connect, it simply craps out on DHCP and leaves me with the 169.x curse. Although my XP laptop, XP desktop, linux desktop, this same laptop running openSUSE, my vonage router, HP officejet, Nokia 9500 and a buddy's iPod can all obtain a DHCP address, apparently Microsoft assumed that Vista users would be connecting to a Windows-based DHCP server so they decided to implement a protocol setting that many non-MS DHCP servers do not.

Net result is a knowledge base article with a registry hack, including all the doom and gloom warnings about editing the registry, simply to return Vista to the same level of DHCP client functionality that XP had. As well as every other freaking DHCP client on the planet.

But I'm not bitter... ;)

RE[2]: polishing Vista
by CPUGuy on Fri 11th Jan 2008 11:56 UTC in reply to "RE: polishing Vista"
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2005-07-06

Why not just give it a static IP address if there is indeed something wrong with your system grabbing a DHCP address?

RE[3]: polishing Vista
by Soulbender on Fri 11th Jan 2008 16:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: polishing Vista"
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2005-08-18

Because DHCP exists for a reason and is a very easy standard to implement right?

Windows ME 2.0...
by dwave on Fri 11th Jan 2008 12:31 UTC
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2006-09-19

...would have been a better name for this product.