Hi-Mobile.net sent us over one of the highest-end phones ever released, the Nokia N82. A rich smartphone, running the latest version of Symbian OS and S60 3.1 is sure to raise some eyebrowses as the model resembles in feature-set (of its time) and overall looks of the very successful 6680 that was first released in early 2005. In fact, the more I look at this model, the more I get the feeling that a product manager walked in at an engineering meeting one Monday morning and proclaimed: "Gentlemen, we need to resurrect the 6680".
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This phone may have lots of features but it has failed to address the iPhone's main selling points.
1. No touchscreen. Keypads are on their way out, especially on high-end phones. iPhone has multitouch. This doesn't even have an ordinary screen.
2. Size and appearance. This may be small in volume but people judge gadgets by thickness. This phone is also decent looking but nothing revolutionary.
3. SImplicity & Doing Things Properly: As usual, nokia has thrown in tons of features (many are useless) but has implemented in a slow, limited and impractical manner. And its media features are still junk in comparison to the iPhone.
4. Screen Size - People dont enjoy watching videos on tiny screens!
This may be the dream phone for some but it still doesn't adequately address the iPhone.
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Umm, not everyone likes the design approach of the iPhone?
"Keypads are on their way out."
Only for you and the Jobs fanclub. Some people prefer keyboards. Just because Apple makes a certain design decision does not mean everyone else has to blindly follow it.
"Size and appearance. This may be small in volume but people judge gadgets by thickness. This phone is also decent looking but nothing revolutionary."
Other people judge gadgets not only by their thickness. Have you considered why Nokia released the N81 and N82? Do you understand the concept of market segments?
"SImplicity & Doing Things Properly: As usual, nokia has thrown in tons of features (many are useless) but has implemented in a slow, limited and impractical manner. And its media features are still junk in comparison to the iPhone."
Again, junk for you and Jobs fanboy club. Let see you getting FLAC and ogg support on your iPhone. I personally think that iTunes (on any platform) is one of the most obnoxious pieces of software in existence. A media player that intentionally has limited codec support, how crazy is that?
Don't apply your Applesque "one size fits all" attitude to the N82. Rather than acting like brainless fanboy, why don't you discuss relevant issues like how easy it is to use the keyboard design of the N82, or th build quality.
Man, I hate fanboys. Take shit from no one! In the end they are ll corporations that aim to brainwash us and get our money.
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I am thinking of buying a new DAP. My budget is around $500. I am debating between buying a HD based DAP or just getting a phone with a 3.5 mm jack and at least 8gb of space.
I debating between buying a N81 and N82. I don't really care about the camera (although the picture quality of the N82 looks like its approaching levels that could start making dedicated cameras redundant), but I do care about internet connectivity.
Any N81 or N82 users out there? How is the multimedia experience on these phones? Anyone have any luck with installing FLAC/ogg codecs and using the native media player?
I am also kind of concerned about the build quality of the N81. Is it solid? Does it scratch easily?
Is it viable to go to the gym with a N81?
Any suggesting or comments are welcome. Feel free to suggest some other phone that can play mp3/flac/ogg, has a 3.5 mm jack and has all the standard smartphone features...
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I have an N95 8GB which basically runs the same base OS as these devices. I'd personally take an S60 v3 device any day over the flashy but useless iPhone. I don't know what kind of crack this guy is smoking but from what I've been reading, a lot of people outside the Apple crack addict camp aren't so crazy about touch screens UI's - yes, there are people who like it but it's not the majority of users by far. I personally HATE having to put my fingers all the time on the same surface that I'm trying to read from. Not the most pleasurable experience reading my mail after I've left all my fingerprints on top of it.
As far as a music player, I think it's great. I don't need any crazy features - it reads all my MP3's just fine, the music library is similar to the first gen iPods - very basic which I like a lot. It has very good sound quality, it has equalizer and with the built-in media keys (or the media keys on the headphones remote), it is very easy to use. The only gripe I had was that the ear buds that came with it aren't that great but the headphones remote has a normal jack so you can plug in your own earbuds (which I have done).
Oh, and the S60 platform has a very healthy software ecosystem available... on the iPhone you can't even install your own software - and they call it a smart phone... give me a f***n break... The thing doesn't even have 3G support, camera sucks balls (did I mention the N95 has a **5** MP camera w/ Carl Zeiss optics), no GPS... It's a complete joke! Yes, I know they will be supposedly fixing a lot of the things I mentioned in the next gen iPhone but I'm sure Nokia and the Windows Mobile camp will have yet again better devices available by then...
Windows Mobile 7 looks like will be awesome and for the touchscreen freaks, S60 Touch UI is well on it's way (hopefully this year). And for the keyboard fans like me, Nokia just patented a dual-slider phone design that has a full QWERTY as well as an old-school keypads.
"5 years ahead" of other phones. GIVE... ME... A... DAMN... BREAK!!!!
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There are many alternative media players for S60v3. Many supporting both OGG and MP3, haven't seen one with FLAC support though.
CorePlayer can play anything you throw at it but it's more of a video player so it doesn't have music library functionality. It also costs money. And if you're hardcore enough (;)) there's Scenetone, free player that can play SID and MOD files.
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Regarding flac; I just found this post.
http://www.symbian-skin.com/post/Oggplay-v1.71-3rd.html
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The iPhone's not for me. No keypad for easy one handed entry when you're on foot and in a hurry, and the lack of GPS or a decent camera too. However there's no denying the iPhone is pretty impressive for a first attempt at a high end mobile phone. Nokia with it's clunky ugly Symbian OS needs to be worried and hopefully the extra competition will give them the kick up the backside they need.
The Symbian OS is too full of inconsistencies, bugs, and features that randomly come and go between different phone versions. The email client is insultingly bad for example, and why can E series phones edit the widgets on active standby screen but the N series can't?
The quality of third party Symbian applications isn't that impressive either so it's probably not a very nice platform to develop for.
Edited 2008-01-15 12:15 UTC
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