Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 28th Jan 2008 23:25 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "A few weeks ago, I wrote an editorial commenting on how horrible browsing the Web is on most mobile devices. Amazingly, there's already a solution for this problem, at least for some users. It's called Skyfire, and it is far and away the best web browser for Windows Mobile I've ever seen." More at Brighthand.
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Opera mini?
by umccullough on Mon 28th Jan 2008 23:37 UTC
umccullough
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2006-01-26

Is it just me, or was there absolutely no mention of Opera mini in that article?

I admit, I only skimmed it - since I don't really own a mobile device capable of browsing anyway.

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RE: Opera mini?
by Eugenia on Mon 28th Jan 2008 23:40 UTC in reply to "Opera mini?"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

Is there a specific reason why he should mention Opera mini? Although I know he has tried Opera Mini. Problem is, Java on WinMob devices really sucks, it ain't as good as it is on Nokia devices, so Opera Mini has a disadvantage on these devices.

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RE[2]: Opera mini?
by umccullough on Mon 28th Jan 2008 23:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera mini?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Ah, I didn't realize that Opera mini required java... my bad.

I just thought it was interesting that the review seemed to focus on the differences between Skyfire and Internet Exporer, and then proceeds to compare it to the "iPhone browser" in how it displays a shrunk-down version of the page - with absolutely no mention of Opera Mini...

I guess I just expected to see it compared to other popular mobile browsers - but I see it's clearly targeting Windows Mobile now.

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RE[2]: Opera mini?
by slashdev on Tue 29th Jan 2008 02:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera mini?"
slashdev Member since:
2006-05-14

Oops, i didnt mean to vote you down Eugenia, was voting you up.

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RE[2]: Opera mini?
by TLZ_ on Tue 29th Jan 2008 11:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera mini?"
TLZ_ Member since:
2007-02-05

What about Opera Mobile?
It's been existing for a good while now.
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/

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RE[2]: Opera mini?
by sard on Tue 29th Jan 2008 21:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera mini?"
sard Member since:
2005-11-16

Can't think why Java on Windows Mobile devices sucks so much ;-) Actually it seems to run best on the standard dumb Sony Ericson phones. Better than S60 anyway.

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Interesting solution...
by JonathanBThompson on Tue 29th Jan 2008 03:02 UTC
JonathanBThompson
Member since:
2006-05-26

I find it entertaining how much of a comparison is made with the iPhone that does it natively, though granted (at this time) the iPhone browser doesn't support every technology (Flash and Java and also other certain common types of files, like .ps) but it does it all locally, natively on the phone itself: that's where there's quite possibly a downer to what they are previewing here.

What I didn't see mentioned (perhaps I didn't look) is whether or not the service is a subscription-based one, or if you buy the software once, and you're able to use it for the lifetime of whatever dies first. What if the company goes out of business? You've got a dead phone browser, effectively! What if the server goes down? Same thing, perhaps for not as long, at least for browsing with the enhancements this provides. How slow will it get when a lot of people use it? This was just a preview of something not yet on the market in common use: you can't make very good judgments based on that, because that may not be a real-world result once everyone is online.

While this does appear to help along the value of the phone and the browsing situation, it sounds like it adds another thing to pay for, as well as another additional point or two of failure: if you can, it'd be far better to just get a phone with a browser that's not reliant on a server elsewhere, such as the iPhone, that (for the most part) does what you want in a browsing platform.

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VNC?
by miro on Tue 29th Jan 2008 09:50 UTC
miro
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2005-07-13

I think the server is just a VNC server, or some similar technology. There is no other way around flash/java. So you this is not a browser in the true sense but a VNC client, or maybe a hybrid (where only the OBJECT tags are send as a stream of images).

A nice idea anyway.

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US only
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 29th Jan 2008 10:27 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

The private beta is for US residents only. I always hate nonsense like that.

Welcome to the 21st century, Skyfire.

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